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法学家说亨特的赦免力度是美国历史上第二例,上一次是赦免尼克松

matlab
就是把十年里犯过的但没有起诉的罪也一并赦免

牛逼啊,极其罕见

最搞笑的是,文件措辞和当年赦免尼克松的措辞都一样。问题是,亨特何德何能啊。尼克松是个被追究刑责的政治犯,他的身份特殊到影响政局稳定。亨特是个普通刑事犯罪分子,他的特殊身份只是总统的儿子。

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/12/0 ... n-00192101

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  1. rihai
    rihai

    尼克松冤的原因是彼时罪犯国还不是罪犯国
    彼时也没有几个完全补药碧莲的右逼大祭司炮制和捏造法律
    LOL

    dreamig 写了: 2024年 12月 4日 07:37 尼克松就是被猪党算计了,太冤了
  2. dreamig
    dreamig

    尼克松就是被猪党算计了,太冤了
  3. 赖美豪中
    赖美豪中

    扯淡,尼克松那个是赦免在总统任期得作为,按照高院得判决,实际是脱裤子放屁,sitting president根本不应该被追责
    matlab 写了: 2024年 12月 2日 02:40 就是把十年里犯过的但没有起诉的罪也一并赦免

    牛逼啊,极其罕见

    最搞笑的是,文件措辞和当年赦免尼克松的措辞都一样。问题是,亨特何德何能啊。尼克松是个被追究刑责的政治犯,他的身份特殊到影响政局稳定。亨特是个普通刑事犯罪分子,他的特殊身份只是总统的儿子。

    https://www.politico.com/news/2024/12/0 ... n-00192101
  4. fieldman
    fieldman

    他肯定有麻烦,但是等到了走法律程序的时候可能已经100岁了,如果还没死的话,中间两党任何一个总统都会特赦他。

    truth 写了: 2024年 12月 3日 23:56 Joe Biden pardoned his son, but who will pardon him?

    In case of Richard Nixon, Gerald Ford pardoned him. If Joe Biden is legally chased after stepping down as president, who will pardon him? Donald Trump or some other president?

    拜登的麻烦在于,他的一些问题发生在任副总统期间或卸职以后,不受到最高法院关于总统履职行为豁免权的保护。



    法律专家表示,拜登赦免其儿子亨特后,亨特·拜登就不能再以美国宪法第五修正案的保护为由,来拒绝出庭作证。
    如果美国国会或法院传唤亨特·拜登作为证人,来配合调查拜登家族或相关案件,那他必须到场并且在宣誓下作证。
    如果他不作证,就是藐视国会或法庭(contempt);如果他没说实话,就是作伪证(perjury);都有可能入狱。
    如2015年拜登与乌克兰Burisma公司的联系,2017年电子邮件"10 held by H for the big guy?"等事,都可能被调查。
    这些事情发生在拜登任副总统期间或在卸职以后,不属于美国最高法院关于总统履职行为豁免权的裁决保护范围。
    明年特朗普上台,共和党又控制了国会,国会与司法部很有可能会对拜登家族展开调查,美国政坛的大戏才开始。
    搞不好,拜登会像韩国的总统那样,在下台后被对手清算。拜登赦免了儿子,但他恐怕要靠其他总统来赦免自己了。

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news ... ter-biden/
    Washington Examiner: Pardon means Fifth Amendment trouble for Hunter Biden

    Hunter Biden may no longer have the Fifth Amendment right to remain silent if called to testify under oath for his actions over the past 11 years after President Joe Biden pardoned the first son, legal experts say.

    https://www.newsweek.com/president-joe- ... nt-1994001
    Newsweek: Hunter Biden Faces Potential 5th Amendment Headache After Pardon

    President Joe Biden's decision to pardon his son now clears the way for Congress to call Hunter as a witness. Hunter Biden would have to answer questions about his business interests if called before Congress.

    https://www.reuters.com/world/us/what-i ... 024-12-02/
    Reuters: Could Hunter Biden be called to testify in another case?

    If the U.S. House of Representatives or the Justice Department decides to probe the Biden family business dealings, as some Republicans have promised to do, Hunter Biden could potentially be called to testify. Before he was pardoned, he could have declined to do so, citing his Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination. The pardon could limit his ability to invoke that right, because he no longer faces criminal jeopardy for any federal crimes committed during the period covered. Presidential pardons do not protect people from prosecution for state crimes.

    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/hunter- ... =116381882
    ABC News: Sen. Tom Cotton issued a warning in an interview Monday on Fox News

    "Joe Biden may come to regret this decision because, having given his son a blanket pardon of 11 years to include the time when Joe Biden was vice president, Hunter Biden now can't plead the fifth (amendment) if he appears before Congress or appears before a grand jury," Cotton said.

    He added, "Hunter Biden has to testify about exactly what he was up to, for instance, when he was traveling to China on Air Force Two and meeting with Chinese communist princelings, or why being paid hundreds of thousands of dollars to sit on a Ukrainian energy company's board for which he had no qualifications."
  5. truth
    truth

    Joe Biden pardoned his son, but who will pardon him?

    In case of Richard Nixon, Gerald Ford pardoned him. If Joe Biden is legally chased after stepping down as president, who will pardon him? Donald Trump or some other president?

    拜登的麻烦在于,他的一些问题发生在任副总统期间或卸职以后,不受到最高法院关于总统履职行为豁免权的保护。
    fieldman 写了: 2024年 12月 1日 20:32 Presidents enjoy broad immunity for what they have done in the capacity of their official duty in Supreme court ruling for Trump vs USA in 2024.
    法律专家表示,拜登赦免其儿子亨特后,亨特·拜登就不能再以美国宪法第五修正案的保护为由,来拒绝出庭作证。
    如果美国国会或法院传唤亨特·拜登作为证人,来配合调查拜登家族或相关案件,那他必须到场并且在宣誓下作证。
    如果他不作证,就是藐视国会或法庭(contempt);如果他没说实话,就是作伪证(perjury);都有可能入狱。
    如2015年拜登与乌克兰Burisma公司的联系,2017年电子邮件"10 held by H for the big guy?"等事,都可能被调查。
    这些事情发生在拜登任副总统期间或在卸职以后,不属于美国最高法院关于总统履职行为豁免权的裁决保护范围。
    明年特朗普上台,共和党又控制了国会,国会与司法部很有可能会对拜登家族展开调查,美国政坛的大戏才开始。
    搞不好,拜登会像韩国的总统那样,在下台后被对手清算。拜登赦免了儿子,但他恐怕要靠其他总统来赦免自己了。

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news ... ter-biden/
    Washington Examiner: Pardon means Fifth Amendment trouble for Hunter Biden

    Hunter Biden may no longer have the Fifth Amendment right to remain silent if called to testify under oath for his actions over the past 11 years after President Joe Biden pardoned the first son, legal experts say.

    https://www.newsweek.com/president-joe- ... nt-1994001
    Newsweek: Hunter Biden Faces Potential 5th Amendment Headache After Pardon

    President Joe Biden's decision to pardon his son now clears the way for Congress to call Hunter as a witness. Hunter Biden would have to answer questions about his business interests if called before Congress.

    https://www.reuters.com/world/us/what-i ... 024-12-02/
    Reuters: Could Hunter Biden be called to testify in another case?

    If the U.S. House of Representatives or the Justice Department decides to probe the Biden family business dealings, as some Republicans have promised to do, Hunter Biden could potentially be called to testify. Before he was pardoned, he could have declined to do so, citing his Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination. The pardon could limit his ability to invoke that right, because he no longer faces criminal jeopardy for any federal crimes committed during the period covered. Presidential pardons do not protect people from prosecution for state crimes.

    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/hunter- ... =116381882
    ABC News: Sen. Tom Cotton issued a warning in an interview Monday on Fox News

    "Joe Biden may come to regret this decision because, having given his son a blanket pardon of 11 years to include the time when Joe Biden was vice president, Hunter Biden now can't plead the fifth (amendment) if he appears before Congress or appears before a grand jury," Cotton said.

    He added, "Hunter Biden has to testify about exactly what he was up to, for instance, when he was traveling to China on Air Force Two and meeting with Chinese communist princelings, or why being paid hundreds of thousands of dollars to sit on a Ukrainian energy company's board for which he had no qualifications."
  6. rihai
    rihai

    罪犯国法律规定,总统可以赦免任何联邦罪
    所以杀人放火强奸都可以赦免, 只要你爸是老逼灯
    吨吨吨

    matlab 写了: 2024年 12月 2日 22:48 赦免未来不可行,有逻辑问题,不就成了免死金牌了,被赦免了明天就去满街突突人怎么办

    逼凳这个赦免过去十年所有罪行(含没起诉的)已经很荒唐了,谁知道亨特过去十年里是不是连环杀手?

    之前对尼克松使用这种毯子赦免,问题不是特别大,因为他的已知罪行都是政治相关的,可以粗略假设他作为普通公民比较体面。亨特就是个普通刑事犯罪分子,哪来的体面
  7. Havana
    Havana

    突突人是州法管,需要一个州长来参与这个行为艺术。
    matlab 写了: 2024年 12月 2日 22:48 赦免未来不可行,有逻辑问题,不就成了免死金牌了,被赦免了明天就去满街突突人怎么办

    逼凳这个赦免过去十年所有罪行(含没起诉的)已经很荒唐了,谁知道亨特过去十年里是不是连环杀手?

    之前对尼克松使用这种毯子赦免,问题不是特别大,因为他的已知罪行都是政治相关的,可以粗略假设他比较体面。亨特就是个普通刑事犯罪分子,哪来的体面
  8. matlab
    matlab

    赦免未来不可行,有逻辑问题,不就成了免死金牌了,被赦免了明天就去满街突突人怎么办

    逼凳这个赦免过去十年所有罪行(含没起诉的)已经很荒唐了,谁知道亨特过去十年里是不是连环杀手?

    之前对尼克松使用这种毯子赦免,问题不是特别大,因为他的已知罪行都是政治相关的,可以粗略假设他作为普通公民比较体面。亨特就是个普通刑事犯罪分子,哪来的体面
    Havana 写了: 2024年 12月 2日 22:32 赦免未来的刑事罪没人干过,是否可行不知道。睡舅这次是指定的一个时间范围,如果把赦免的终止日期订到100年以后,从理论上讲没毛病,就看高院是否介入。
  9. Havana
    Havana

    赦免未来的刑事罪没人干过,是否可行不知道。睡舅这次是指定的一个时间范围,如果把赦免的终止日期订到100年以后,从理论上讲没毛病,就看高院是否介入。
    rihai 写了: 2024年 12月 2日 22:11 翻墙的吧? 还能赦免未来的刑事罪?
    罪犯国虽然非常煞笔, 但还没傻逼到这种程度
    LOL
  10. Amorphous
    Amorphous

    rihai 写了: 2024年 12月 2日 22:14 大鸡巴买钴矿买啥都没啥问题
    又不是老逼灯买的
    LOL
    亨特不是买,而是参与中介

    https://www.eenews.net/articles/hunter- ... explained/

    截至2022年,中国钴资源已探明可采储量仅为14万吨,全球占比1.69%,且多为铁、铜、镍伴生矿,分离难度极大。
  11. rihai
    rihai

    大鸡巴买钴矿买啥都没啥问题
    又不是老逼灯买的
    LOL

    Amorphous 写了: 2024年 12月 2日 22:12 其实参与中国购买钴矿才是大料,其他都是毛毛雨,在我帝体制内都可以无损化解。
  12. Amorphous
    Amorphous

    rihai 写了: 2024年 12月 2日 22:12 没有任何限制
    啥重罪都可以赦免
    欢迎来到罪犯国
    LOL
    POTUS

    pardoner of the US
  13. Amorphous
    Amorphous

    matlab 写了: 2024年 12月 2日 02:40 就是把十年里犯过的但没有起诉的罪也一并赦免

    牛逼啊,极其罕见

    最搞笑的是,文件措辞和当年赦免尼克松的措辞都一样。问题是,亨特何德何能啊。尼克松是个被追究刑责的政治犯,他的身份特殊到影响政局稳定。亨特是个普通刑事犯罪分子,他的特殊身份只是总统的儿子。

    https://www.politico.com/news/2024/12/0 ... n-00192101
    其实参与中国购买钴矿才是大料,其他都是毛毛雨,在我帝体制内都可以无损化解。
  14. rihai
    rihai

    没有任何限制
    啥重罪都可以赦免
    欢迎来到罪犯国
    LOL

    Trump 写了: 2024年 12月 2日 03:40 那就临下台再赦免。
    这种赦免保不包括 杀人叛国 等犯罪?
  15. rihai
    rihai

    翻墙的吧? 还能赦免未来的刑事罪?
    罪犯国虽然非常煞笔, 但还没傻逼到这种程度
    LOL

    Sunland 写了: 2024年 12月 2日 02:57 这个得修宪取消blanket 赦免,要不然 Trump一上台就赦免
    所有宣誓对他效忠的人的过去未来一切罪行,猪党岂不任人宰割?
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