越南表示，从来就没有同意美国的‘deal’，原来虚假发推只是过口瘾lol

[Riikanbkk]

越南表示，从来就没有同意美国的‘deal’，越南国内对于床破的虚假推特非常愤怒，现在已经不可能达成任何协议

问题来了：最老实、最听话、最积极带宝来供的，被床破踢倒，赔了面子还做不成买卖。试问还有谁会来谈？等疯狂囤货总有用完的一天，到最后床破还是得求爷爷告奶奶向绑得结实老朋友EU 求情。当然那就得老老实实出钱挡住床破亲daddy 普毛，不然东欧西欧一群全都不会同意配合。

Vietnam Fumes as Trump Allegedly Scraps Tariff Deal at Last Minute

The lobbyist added that this move left the Vietnamese government "shocked, disappointed, and angry."

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/07/1 ... l-00447715

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... ckout=true

https://time.com/7300389/trump-trade-de ... -deadline/

https://www.nationthailand.com/news/asean/40052441

Vietnam thought it had a deal on its US tariff rate. Then Trump stepped in.
Neither side has released documentation of the tariff terms, raising questions about whether they did, in fact, reach an agreement.

President Donald Trump speaks during a lunch.
Hanoi has said little publicly about the tariff rates since the president announced them on social media. | Evan Vucci/AP

By DANIEL DESROCHERS, PHELIM KINE and ARI HAWKINS
07/10/2025 04:45 PM EDT


Vietnam thought it had a preliminary deal with the U.S. to lower its tariff level substantially. Then, at the last minute, President Donald Trump raised the rate.

As a result, the Vietnamese government still has not formally accepted a key part of the agreement the president touted on social media last week, despite Trump’s claim in the post that the terms had been agreed to by Vietnam’s leader, Tô Lâm, according to four people familiar with the discussions and granted anonymity because of the sensitivity of the issue. And neither side has released documentation of those terms, raising questions about whether they did, in fact, reach an agreement, as the White House labors to prove it is making headway in its trade negotiations with dozens of major partners.

Trump announced the framework agreement on Truth Social on July 2, just days before the White House’s self-imposed July 8 deadline for trade negotiations. The deal was just the second the administration has reached to avoid its threatened “reciprocal” tariffs, after Trump suggested in an April interview that he’d made 200 deals. According to Trump’s July 2 post, exports from Vietnam will face a 20 percent tariff — down from the 46 percent that was paused in April — or a 40 percent tariff if they originated in a different country. In exchange, Vietnam “will ‘OPEN THEIR MARKET TO THE UNITED STATES,’ meaning that, we will be able to sell our product into Vietnam at ZERO Tariff,” the president wrote.

That sent shock waves through Vietnam because their negotiators had not, in fact, agreed to the 20 percent rate; they believed the tariff rate would be around 11 percent, according to the four people. Trump disregarded that figure in his phone call with Vietnamese General Secretary Lâm — who had not been part of the initial tariff negotiations — and instead declared the U.S. would impose a tariff nearly twice as high.

Some on the U.S. side were surprised, too, including outside groups who’d been tracking the talks, according to one Washington-based lobbyist who works with Vietnam and other Asian governments.

“Trump sandbagged everybody,” said the lobbyist. They described the Vietnamese government’s reaction as “surprise, as well as disappointment and anger.”

A White House aide, granted anonymity because they were not authorized to speak publicly, disputed that characterization, saying the Vietnamese government was aware of the top-line tariff rates ahead of the call.

“My understanding is that the two trade teams kind of hashed it out and it was a leader-to-leader thing to put final approval on it,” the aide said.

Neither the White House nor Vietnam, however, have released any paperwork indicating a final agreement that includes those tariff rates, and neither country has formally signed off on a deal. It’s unclear when, or if, the higher rate will go into effect.

“It just introduces even a greater element of uncertainty, that even once you think you’ve negotiated a deal, he can turn around and just change the terms,” said Wendy Cutler, a former acting deputy U.S. trade representative for President Barack Obama, who is currently vice president at the Asia Society Policy Institute, a D.C.-based think tank. “And in this case it appears that he did it unilaterally and publicly without any buy-in from Vietnam.”

Spokespeople for the Communist Party of Vietnam as well as the Office of the U.S. Trade Representative and the Department of Commerce did not immediately respond to requests for comment.

Trump is impatient with the pace of the trade deals, indicating that he would prefer to send letters to countries setting the tariff rates on their goods, rather than what he now acknowledges is the arduous process of negotiating comprehensive trade deals with countries around the world.

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“I just want you to know a letter means a deal,” Trump said at the White House on Tuesday. “We can’t meet with 200 countries.”

Vietnam has watched as Trump this week proposed new tariff rates on other Asian countries — including an identical 20 percent rate on the Philippines — to go into effect on Aug. 1, without any of the concessions or rules about where goods originate that Vietnam is prepared to agree to. （什么都没积极干的直接拿到一样的关税；越南是带宝来供、全世界最想谈最积极的，最后一刻莫名其妙被撕破承诺、变脸变卦升了2-4 倍，我都不好意思纯表了rofl）

Hanoi has said little publicly about the tariff rates since Trump announced them on social media. A Vietnamese state media report on the deal published July 2 didn’t mention any agreed-to duties. Instead, the report said that Trump’s call with Lâm had resulted in a “Joint Statement on a fair, balanced reciprocal trade agreement.” That joint statement has yet to be released.

That may reflect Hanoi’s frustration at Trump’s move to derail the original agreement. A copy of a draft joint statement of the deal’s terms obtained by POLITICO the same day Trump announced the deal outlined more favorable trading conditions for Vietnam, including a “substantial reduction” in the U.S. tariffs on Vietnam’s imports.

Regional experts worry the episode could undermine decades of effort to rebuild diplomatic ties after the Vietnam War, not to mention a surging commercial relationship. According to the International Trade Administration, trade between the two countries has ballooned since Washington and Hanoi signed a bilateral trade agreement in 2001 — from $2.9 billion in 2002 to over $139 billion in 2022 — transforming Vietnam into the sixth-largest source of U.S. imports.

“Certainly their trust in the U.S. as a reliable partner, which has been built over the last 30 years, will take a big hit,” said Scot Marciel, a former deputy assistant secretary of State for East Asia and the Pacific, who led the U.S. Embassy’s political and economic section in Hanoi from 1993 to 1996. “Purely in terms of U.S.-versus-Chinese influence, China will benefit from this.”

Other countries are also aware of the last-minute change to the agreed tariff rates and have discussed it with each other, according to one of the people cited above as well as an Asian diplomat, highlighting the uncertainty U.S. trading partners feel as they continue negotiations with a president who seems to alter his tariff threats at whim.

“To have the president do that basically pulls the rug out from the credibility of the negotiators, and other countries are watching this stuff,” said Harry Broadman, a former assistant U.S. trade representative in the George H.W. Bush and Bill Clinton administrations. “If you’re going to the negotiating table with country X, and they just saw country Y did a deal but then it was undercut, they’ll say, ‘Why am I spending time with you? And how do I know that what we agree here is going to be ultimately what the final deal is?’”

Doug Palmer contributed to this report.

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Japan, Canada, and even Brazil have declared 'a fight to the death.' Vietnam has expressed anger, claiming that a provisional agreement to lower the tariff rate with the U.S. had been overturned by a single statement from President Trump.

https://www.bworldonline.com/economy/20 ... tnam-deal/

[gjq]

这非常川普

[wanmeishijie]

黄疮不服来辩

[asmith]

越南猴子被耍了，天真的以为是11%关税，结果Trump一张嘴20%就这么定了

[gjq]

也没有定啊

越南猴子被耍了，天真的以为是11%关税，结果Trump一张嘴20%就这么定了