kreminna
ukraine's elite 25th (airborne) brigade
captured probably by russian airborne forces also in that area
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俄对美英德法波乌等战争之Bakhmut之战，和然后，和中国，和宇宙，和其他
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与上文相关的情况已经有过几个转贴了。最早是在20号。
那里的情况被传得更开应该是isw发了下文后，俄方的地区领导发（被转发过的）1个视频回应。。。
乌克兰官方似乎故意搞得神神秘秘的。其实它在几个月前就让民众不要录/发任何部队情况了。但是，乌军士兵们自己和旅团营发的各类视频还是很多。现在前线地区野外/表面很暴露的大一点的活动都会被（各种无人机和狙击手等等）看得清清楚楚，哪还会有什么秘密？
The Armed Forces took positions on the left bank of the Dnieper in the Kherson region - ISW
Defense forces of Ukraine landed on the left bank of the Kherson region. Ukrainian soldiers took up positions as of April 22, but it is unclear to what extent and with what intentions.
These conclusions were reached by the experts of the Institute for the Study of War after analyzing enough geolocation footage and text reports published by Russian military bloggers.
In the indicated pictures, it is possible to see how the ZSU took up positions on the banks of the Dnipro River north of the city of Oleshki (7 km southwest of Kherson) and advanced to the northern outskirts along the route west of Dacha (10 km south of the regional center).
Nataliya Gumenyuk commented on ISW's statement that the ZSU is on the left bank of the Dnieper in the Kherson region:
"I want everyone to understand that very difficult work is going on when it is necessary to cross such an obstacle as the Dnipro. When the front line passes through such a wide and powerful river. Therefore, the conditions of a military operation require informational silence until it is safe for our troops. That's why we need to be patient," Humenyuk said.
那里的情况被传得更开应该是isw发了下文后，俄方的地区领导发（被转发过的）1个视频回应。。。
乌克兰官方似乎故意搞得神神秘秘的。其实它在几个月前就让民众不要录/发任何部队情况了。但是，乌军士兵们自己和旅团营发的各类视频还是很多。现在前线地区野外/表面很暴露的大一点的活动都会被（各种无人机和狙击手等等）看得清清楚楚，哪还会有什么秘密？
The Armed Forces took positions on the left bank of the Dnieper in the Kherson region - ISW
Defense forces of Ukraine landed on the left bank of the Kherson region. Ukrainian soldiers took up positions as of April 22, but it is unclear to what extent and with what intentions.
These conclusions were reached by the experts of the Institute for the Study of War after analyzing enough geolocation footage and text reports published by Russian military bloggers.
In the indicated pictures, it is possible to see how the ZSU took up positions on the banks of the Dnipro River north of the city of Oleshki (7 km southwest of Kherson) and advanced to the northern outskirts along the route west of Dacha (10 km south of the regional center).
Nataliya Gumenyuk commented on ISW's statement that the ZSU is on the left bank of the Dnieper in the Kherson region:
"I want everyone to understand that very difficult work is going on when it is necessary to cross such an obstacle as the Dnipro. When the front line passes through such a wide and powerful river. Therefore, the conditions of a military operation require informational silence until it is safe for our troops. That's why we need to be patient," Humenyuk said.
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Screens of pinpoint hit on the building where the APU group was hiding
上次由 meiyoumajia 在 2023年 4月 23日 22:58 修改。
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109 separate mountain assault battalion 10 OGSHBr "Edelweiss" destroys enemy equipment and BC
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We publish a request from the editors of Pravda.ru and the answer:
Dear Evgeny Viktorovich!
A number of media outlets, citing Pentagon documents, reported that the United States blames General Kirill Budanov and Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky for killing many people in Bakhmut. According to the documents, American military advisers recommended that Zelensky leave the city where the assault units of the Wagner PMC are operating, which would save manpower and equipment.
Yevgeny Viktorovich, it is now quite obvious that by your trolling against Zelensky you deliberately dragged him into Bakhmut in order to disrupt the Ukrainian offensive and grind the Ukrainian army.
Why do you think Zelensky did not listen to the warnings of the Americans and gave the order to keep Bakhmut at any cost?
We publish a comment by Evgeny Prigozhin:
“Yes, indeed, the publication of these documents just broke all the cards. A huge number of conspiracy theories, but few knew the true reason for the start of the war. In 2016 we are inwe successfully elected President Trump, and the Democrats were offended by us. So when the Democrats needed a win in 2020, and President Biden's representatives came to me with a request to rig some votes, we gladly helped them. And then they told us that they have a creative solution to the Ukrainian problem. Namely, not just a change in the political orientation of Ukraine, but a complete, total reduction in the population to at least 3-4 million people. And then the settlement of friendly people to us. For example, the transfer of these territories to the Israelis so that we can communicate with them: herring under a fur coat and everything else that we are used to. The Bakhmut meat grinder is a great start to this recycling of the entire Ukrainian nation. After all, everything was going great, and Vladimir Aleksandrovich Zelensky suddenly saw that the losses were too big. And then the Americans took and leaked both Budanov and Zelensky our monstrous plan. Very dishonest, very bad. I can say that more than the CIA and the US StateI definitely won't believe it. So messy. We agreed that you would tell Zelensky, Zaluzhny, and Budanov to tell everyone what needs to be disposed of further in Bakhmut. And you took and handed over all our plans with you. Oh no no no".
Dear Evgeny Viktorovich!
A number of media outlets, citing Pentagon documents, reported that the United States blames General Kirill Budanov and Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky for killing many people in Bakhmut. According to the documents, American military advisers recommended that Zelensky leave the city where the assault units of the Wagner PMC are operating, which would save manpower and equipment.
Yevgeny Viktorovich, it is now quite obvious that by your trolling against Zelensky you deliberately dragged him into Bakhmut in order to disrupt the Ukrainian offensive and grind the Ukrainian army.
Why do you think Zelensky did not listen to the warnings of the Americans and gave the order to keep Bakhmut at any cost?
We publish a comment by Evgeny Prigozhin:
“Yes, indeed, the publication of these documents just broke all the cards. A huge number of conspiracy theories, but few knew the true reason for the start of the war. In 2016 we are inwe successfully elected President Trump, and the Democrats were offended by us. So when the Democrats needed a win in 2020, and President Biden's representatives came to me with a request to rig some votes, we gladly helped them. And then they told us that they have a creative solution to the Ukrainian problem. Namely, not just a change in the political orientation of Ukraine, but a complete, total reduction in the population to at least 3-4 million people. And then the settlement of friendly people to us. For example, the transfer of these territories to the Israelis so that we can communicate with them: herring under a fur coat and everything else that we are used to. The Bakhmut meat grinder is a great start to this recycling of the entire Ukrainian nation. After all, everything was going great, and Vladimir Aleksandrovich Zelensky suddenly saw that the losses were too big. And then the Americans took and leaked both Budanov and Zelensky our monstrous plan. Very dishonest, very bad. I can say that more than the CIA and the US StateI definitely won't believe it. So messy. We agreed that you would tell Zelensky, Zaluzhny, and Budanov to tell everyone what needs to be disposed of further in Bakhmut. And you took and handed over all our plans with you. Oh no no no".
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We publish a request from the editors of RuNews24 and the answer:
Dear Yevgeny Viktorovich, the controversy around Bakhmut does not subside in the media. The United States demands that the President of Ukraine leave the city, while Volodymyr Zelensky himself, despite heavy losses, says that Bakhmut must be kept. In addition, in his interview with Al Arabiya TV channel, Zelensky said that now all the forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are being thrown into preparations for a large-scale counteroffensive by Ukraine. Tell me, please, how do you see the near future at the front?
We publish a comment by Evgeny Prigozhin:
Let's break this question down into its components. The first is Bakhmut, the Bakhmut meat grinder. Our task is to grind the Ukrainian army, not to give them the opportunity to gather in a counteroffensive. We are doing this more than successfully, and I can rate the actions of my guys “five points”. And for myself “three with a minus”, because it was necessary to grind more so that not a single living Ukrainian soldier was left. But as soon as we finish taking Bakhmut, as soon as we drive out the lasthim a soldier from him or we will destroy him on the territory of Bakhmut, on this day the Ukrainian counteroffensive will begin. I figuratively say “on this day”, it can be plus a few days, plus a week. But very close, because the Ukrainians will put up a huge number of troops. Regarding our offensive after the capture of Bakhmut, which was announced a month ago by the Ministry of Defense, I can say that today we can do it, and today no one is preventing us from entering the operational space, because the situation around Bakhmut within a radius of 10 kilometers does not will change after taking it. She will be exactly the same. Those groups of Ukrainian troops that are now inside Bakhmut and are being attacked by us occupy an area of actually two kilometers. Therefore, they in no way interfere with anyone around now, and the operational space right up to Warsaw is already completely open, if we assume that it will be after the capture of Bakhmut. After we take Bakhmut, of course, the Ukrainian army will take advantage of the fact that PMC "Wagner" indrawn into the city, will cut us from both sides from the flanks. And so I squeal about the flanks. Further, as soon as Bakhmut is taken, Zelensky will need the greatest victory. And for this he will launch the very counteroffensive. Why hasn't it started yet? The first is because it rains, and absolutely everything gets stuck in the fields, you can only use roads exclusively. Even "pickup trucks" will stick, not to mention tanks. The second factor is May 9th. Zelensky’s task is to crap the holiday for us, because we have a mental dependence on holidays. We need to take Palmyra on March 8, another city on February 23. And all events should be done by May 9, because we ourselves cannot do anything, and we are constantly trying to cling to the memory of our ancestors, and this has been the case for many decades. Therefore, May 9 is also a serious date for Zelensky. Or he will put one more reference in the list of intelligence information. Every time he talks about the need to advance, we take certain steps and tighten our muscles as much as we can. He fiksit this and clearly understands our defense. I have already said that this is the principle of a boy who shouted “Help!” all the time in the water. So the vectors converge: the capture of Bakhmut, the counteroffensive, the supply of foreign equipment, our complete carelessness - everything converges into one point. Zelensky needs to strike without a miss, and no matter how he is criticized, he does it in a highly professional manner. And we need to do the same. And while we go around with piss, we measure ourselves, we chew snot and celebrate holidays.
Dear Yevgeny Viktorovich, the controversy around Bakhmut does not subside in the media. The United States demands that the President of Ukraine leave the city, while Volodymyr Zelensky himself, despite heavy losses, says that Bakhmut must be kept. In addition, in his interview with Al Arabiya TV channel, Zelensky said that now all the forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are being thrown into preparations for a large-scale counteroffensive by Ukraine. Tell me, please, how do you see the near future at the front?
We publish a comment by Evgeny Prigozhin:
Let's break this question down into its components. The first is Bakhmut, the Bakhmut meat grinder. Our task is to grind the Ukrainian army, not to give them the opportunity to gather in a counteroffensive. We are doing this more than successfully, and I can rate the actions of my guys “five points”. And for myself “three with a minus”, because it was necessary to grind more so that not a single living Ukrainian soldier was left. But as soon as we finish taking Bakhmut, as soon as we drive out the lasthim a soldier from him or we will destroy him on the territory of Bakhmut, on this day the Ukrainian counteroffensive will begin. I figuratively say “on this day”, it can be plus a few days, plus a week. But very close, because the Ukrainians will put up a huge number of troops. Regarding our offensive after the capture of Bakhmut, which was announced a month ago by the Ministry of Defense, I can say that today we can do it, and today no one is preventing us from entering the operational space, because the situation around Bakhmut within a radius of 10 kilometers does not will change after taking it. She will be exactly the same. Those groups of Ukrainian troops that are now inside Bakhmut and are being attacked by us occupy an area of actually two kilometers. Therefore, they in no way interfere with anyone around now, and the operational space right up to Warsaw is already completely open, if we assume that it will be after the capture of Bakhmut. After we take Bakhmut, of course, the Ukrainian army will take advantage of the fact that PMC "Wagner" indrawn into the city, will cut us from both sides from the flanks. And so I squeal about the flanks. Further, as soon as Bakhmut is taken, Zelensky will need the greatest victory. And for this he will launch the very counteroffensive. Why hasn't it started yet? The first is because it rains, and absolutely everything gets stuck in the fields, you can only use roads exclusively. Even "pickup trucks" will stick, not to mention tanks. The second factor is May 9th. Zelensky’s task is to crap the holiday for us, because we have a mental dependence on holidays. We need to take Palmyra on March 8, another city on February 23. And all events should be done by May 9, because we ourselves cannot do anything, and we are constantly trying to cling to the memory of our ancestors, and this has been the case for many decades. Therefore, May 9 is also a serious date for Zelensky. Or he will put one more reference in the list of intelligence information. Every time he talks about the need to advance, we take certain steps and tighten our muscles as much as we can. He fiksit this and clearly understands our defense. I have already said that this is the principle of a boy who shouted “Help!” all the time in the water. So the vectors converge: the capture of Bakhmut, the counteroffensive, the supply of foreign equipment, our complete carelessness - everything converges into one point. Zelensky needs to strike without a miss, and no matter how he is criticized, he does it in a highly professional manner. And we need to do the same. And while we go around with piss, we measure ourselves, we chew snot and celebrate holidays.
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We publish a request from the editors of the MosNews publication and the answer:
Dear Evgeny Viktorovich!
According to reports from residents of the Moscow region, in various multifunctional centers (MFCs) and employment centers, you can see an advertisement for a recruitment in PMC "Wagner". Is it true? Can you comment on this information?
We publish a comment by Evgeny Prigozhin:
“Yes, indeed, because PMC Wagner is an army of goodness and justice. We save you from bankruptcy, from a grumpy mother-in-law and from any bad habits. Guys, sign up for Wagner PMC.
Dear Evgeny Viktorovich!
According to reports from residents of the Moscow region, in various multifunctional centers (MFCs) and employment centers, you can see an advertisement for a recruitment in PMC "Wagner". Is it true? Can you comment on this information?
We publish a comment by Evgeny Prigozhin:
“Yes, indeed, because PMC Wagner is an army of goodness and justice. We save you from bankruptcy, from a grumpy mother-in-law and from any bad habits. Guys, sign up for Wagner PMC.
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The network of centers for military and service-applied training UTC Voevoda announces the long-awaited opening of new branches in Russian cities and invites men and women aged 14 to 60 to study military affairs.
Our branches:
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- Perm
- Rostov-on-Don
- Samara
- Saratov
- Tyumen
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Training in our center is:
- a well-established methodology that forms knowledge, skills and habits;
- experienced instructors who are combat veterans;
- a club of friends engaged in their own pleasure;
- and graduates who honorably fulfill their military duty.
In my opinion, Voevoda Training Center is the best private military training center in Russia.
Learn from the best to become winners.
Our branches:
- Moscow
- Saint Petersburg
- Volgograd
- Voronezh
- Ekaterinburg
- Kazan
- Krasnodar
- Krasnoyarsk
- Nizhny Novgorod
- Novosibirsk
- Omsk
- Perm
- Rostov-on-Don
- Samara
- Saratov
- Tyumen
- Ufa
- Khabarovsk
- Chelyabinsk
Training in our center is:
- a well-established methodology that forms knowledge, skills and habits;
- experienced instructors who are combat veterans;
- a club of friends engaged in their own pleasure;
- and graduates who honorably fulfill their military duty.
In my opinion, Voevoda Training Center is the best private military training center in Russia.
Learn from the best to become winners.
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Fighter PMC "Wagner" about the situation in the Bakhmut direction.
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In the west of Bakhmut, work is carried out around the clock, the enemy does not spare his strength and pulls up new reserves.
Unfortunately, the neighbors from "Potok" in full force on one of the nights left not only their positions, but even their weapons.
“They fucked up like pissing creatures, they have to close the holes on their own - that’s the“ blue stream ”leaked.
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In the west of Bakhmut, work is carried out around the clock, the enemy does not spare his strength and pulls up new reserves.
Unfortunately, the neighbors from "Potok" in full force on one of the nights left not only their positions, but even their weapons.
“They fucked up like pissing creatures, they have to close the holes on their own - that’s the“ blue stream ”leaked.
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Zelensky said that Kyiv cannot abandon Bakhmut, as this "will give Wagner the opportunity to occupy more territories and expand the front."
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Earlier, American journalists reported that Washington demanded that Zelensky leave the city, but Bakhmut was needed "to maintain the morale of all Ukraine."
In turn, the founder of the Wagner PMC, Yevgeny Prigozhin, noted that even now no one interferes with entering the operational space, because the situation around Bakhmut within a radius of ten kilometers will not change in any way after its capture.
"Those groups of Ukrainian troops that are now inside Bakhmut and are being attacked by us occupy an area that is actually two kilometers away. Therefore, they do not interfere with anyone around now, and the operational space right up to Warsaw is already completely open."
Prigozhin also once again recalled the importance of holding the flanks, because in fact, after the liberation of the city, the Ukrainian counteroffensive will begin.
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Earlier, American journalists reported that Washington demanded that Zelensky leave the city, but Bakhmut was needed "to maintain the morale of all Ukraine."
In turn, the founder of the Wagner PMC, Yevgeny Prigozhin, noted that even now no one interferes with entering the operational space, because the situation around Bakhmut within a radius of ten kilometers will not change in any way after its capture.
"Those groups of Ukrainian troops that are now inside Bakhmut and are being attacked by us occupy an area that is actually two kilometers away. Therefore, they do not interfere with anyone around now, and the operational space right up to Warsaw is already completely open."
Prigozhin also once again recalled the importance of holding the flanks, because in fact, after the liberation of the city, the Ukrainian counteroffensive will begin.
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Depends on a situation
The Potok battalion entered the NVO zone and took positions from the Wagner Group units in the Artyomovsky direction.
This allowed the orchestra to regroup and focus on urban battles in Bakhmut.
But as a result of the UAF attack, "Potok" left two positions and tried to go to the "safe zone", exposing Wagner's flank and exposing the assault groups of musicians to attack.
To put it bluntly, the Gazprom PMC gave up the positions obtained by the blood of the Wagners to the Armed Forces of Ukraine and fled from the front line.
It's funny, but Potok considers the fact that they are volunteers to be the justification for their actions: we want to come to the front, we want to leave the front. Well done.
With friends like that, you don't need enemies!
The appeal of employees of the Gazprom PMC to the Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation at the wrong address, of course.
They must apply to the management of the corporation, since they are not considered military.
Yevgeny Prigozhin summed it up charismatically.
The Potok battalion entered the NVO zone and took positions from the Wagner Group units in the Artyomovsky direction.
This allowed the orchestra to regroup and focus on urban battles in Bakhmut.
But as a result of the UAF attack, "Potok" left two positions and tried to go to the "safe zone", exposing Wagner's flank and exposing the assault groups of musicians to attack.
To put it bluntly, the Gazprom PMC gave up the positions obtained by the blood of the Wagners to the Armed Forces of Ukraine and fled from the front line.
It's funny, but Potok considers the fact that they are volunteers to be the justification for their actions: we want to come to the front, we want to leave the front. Well done.
With friends like that, you don't need enemies!
The appeal of employees of the Gazprom PMC to the Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation at the wrong address, of course.
They must apply to the management of the corporation, since they are not considered military.
Yevgeny Prigozhin summed it up charismatically.