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Re: WSJ:定了,Covid是实验室泄漏

发表于 : 2023年 2月 26日 20:47
villandry
重点是美国Energy Department,是不是美国能源部要接管美国FDA了?接下来可能还要接管美国国防部?

Re: WSJ:定了,Covid是实验室泄漏

发表于 : 2023年 2月 26日 21:11
A.Blinken
武汉实验室泄露的可能性很大

Re: WSJ:定了,Covid是实验室泄漏

发表于 : 2023年 2月 26日 22:13
tnc
能源部是主管美国17个国家实验室的机构,

著名的有橡树岭,劳伦斯李佛莫,劳伦斯伯克利和阿贡实验室等,他们的科学研究项目相当广泛深入。

这17个国家实验室光华人科学家就有100多人,不少是国内顶尖大学的毕业后来美读书的。

所以不妨看看他们的报告到底怎么说!

Re: WSJ:定了,Covid是实验室泄漏

发表于 : 2023年 2月 26日 22:55
cellcycle1
kuku 写了: 2023年 2月 26日 20:07 推理
With low confidence
推理就算了,这么大的事,

Re: WSJ:定了,Covid是实验室泄漏

发表于 : 2023年 2月 26日 23:25
LightFast
tnc 写了: 2023年 2月 26日 22:13 能源部是主管美国17个国家实验室的机构,

著名的有橡树岭,劳伦斯李佛莫,劳伦斯伯克利和阿贡实验室等,他们的科学研究项目相当广泛深入。

这17个国家实验室光华人科学家就有100多人,不少是国内顶尖大学的毕业后来美读书的。

所以不妨看看他们的报告到底怎么说!
这些实验室都是传统上跟核武器相关的研究。有做病毒的吗?

Re: WSJ:定了,Covid是实验室泄漏

发表于 : 2023年 2月 26日 23:27
tnc
LightFast 写了: 2023年 2月 26日 23:25 这些实验室都是传统上跟核武器相关的研究。有做病毒的吗?
17个实验室里面有biology lab,

而且比较advanced, 属于national security 的范畴。

nuclear 是最早的一方面。

Re: WSJ:定了,Covid是实验室泄漏

发表于 : 2023年 2月 26日 23:37
LightFast
The Energy Department made its judgment with “low confidence,” according to people who have read the classified report.

The FBI previously came to the conclusion that the pandemic was likely the result of a lab leak in 2021 with “moderate confidence” and still holds to this view.

The National Intelligence Council, which conducts long-term strategic analysis, and four agencies, which officials declined to identify, still assess with “low confidence” that the virus came about through natural transmission from an infected animal, according to the updated report.

从内容里的low confidence, moderate confidence到标题的Most likely,再到楼主的“定了”,WSJ的编辑和楼主都应该为造谣遭到报应。

Re: WSJ:定了,Covid是实验室泄漏

发表于 : 2023年 2月 26日 23:39
LightFast
tnc 写了: 2023年 2月 26日 23:27 17个实验室里面有biology lab,

而且比较advanced, 属于national security 的范畴。

nuclear 是最早的一方面。
any reference?

Re: WSJ:定了,Covid是实验室泄漏

发表于 : 2023年 2月 26日 23:46
tnc
LightFast 写了: 2023年 2月 26日 23:39 any reference?
这就不知道了

Re: WSJ:定了,Covid是实验室泄漏

发表于 : 2023年 2月 27日 00:35
AQ14
LightFast 写了: 2023年 2月 26日 23:37 The Energy Department made its judgment with “low confidence,” according to people who have read the classified report.

The FBI previously came to the conclusion that the pandemic was likely the result of a lab leak in 2021 with “moderate confidence” and still holds to this view.

The National Intelligence Council, which conducts long-term strategic analysis, and four agencies, which officials declined to identify, still assess with “low confidence” that the virus came about through natural transmission from an infected animal, according to the updated report.

从内容里的low confidence, moderate confidence到标题的Most likely,再到楼主的“定了”,WSJ的编辑和楼主都应该为造谣遭到报应。
还有一帮跟风的SB将们, 都是狗操的。

Re: WSJ:定了,Covid是实验室泄漏

发表于 : 2023年 2月 27日 00:36
AQ14
tnc 写了: 2023年 2月 26日 23:46 这就不知道了
不知道你BB个鸡巴?

Re: WSJ:定了,Covid是实验室泄漏

发表于 : 2023年 2月 27日 00:42
AQ14
StillWandering 写了: 2023年 2月 26日 10:50 图片



WSJ NEWS EXCLUSIVENATIONAL SECURITY
Lab Leak Most Likely Origin of Covid-19 Pandemic, Energy Department Now Says
U.S. agency’s revised assessment is based on new intelligence

A campus of the Wuhan Institute of Virology in Wuhan, China, in 2020.
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By Michael R. GordonFollow
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Updated Feb. 26, 2023 at 10:44 am ET

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WASHINGTON—The U.S. Energy Department has concluded that the Covid pandemic most likely arose from a laboratory leak, according to a classified intelligence report recently provided to the White House and key members of Congress.

The shift by the Energy Department, which previously was undecided on how the virus emerged, is noted in an update to a 2021 document by Director of National Intelligence Avril Haines’s office.









A nurse cared for a patient at a California intensive-care unit in May 2020 as Covid-19 continued to spread across the U.S.
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The Energy Department’s conclusion is the result of new intelligence and is significant because the agency has considerable scientific expertise and oversees a network of U.S. national laboratories, some of which conduct advanced biological research.

The Energy Department made its judgment with “low confidence,” according to people who have read the classified report.

The FBI previously came to the conclusion that the pandemic was likely the result of a lab leak in 2021 with “moderate confidence” and still holds to this view.

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The FBI employs a cadre of microbiologists, immunologists and other scientists and is supported by the National Bioforensic Analysis Center, which was established at Fort Detrick, Md., in 2004 to analyze anthrax and other possible biological threats.

U.S. officials declined to give details on the fresh intelligence and analysis that led the Energy Department to change its position. They added that while the Energy Department and the FBI each say an unintended lab leak is most likely, they arrived at those conclusions for different reasons.

The updated document underscores how intelligence officials are still putting together the pieces on how Covid-19 emerged. More than one million Americans have died in the pandemic that began more than three years ago.

The National Intelligence Council, which conducts long-term strategic analysis, and four agencies, which officials declined to identify, still assess with “low confidence” that the virus came about through natural transmission from an infected animal, according to the updated report.

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The updated report was completed by Director of National Intelligence Avril Haines’s office earlier this year.
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The Central Intelligence Agency and another agency that officials wouldn’t name remain undecided between the lab-leak and natural-transmission theories, the people who have read the classified report said.

Despite the agencies’ differing analyses, the update reaffirmed an existing consensus between them that Covid-19 wasn’t the result of a Chinese biological-weapons program, the people who have read the classified report said.

A senior U.S. intelligence official confirmed that the intelligence community had conducted the update, whose existence hasn’t previously been reported. This official added that it was done in light of new intelligence, further study of academic literature and consultation with experts outside government.

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The update, which is less than five pages, wasn’t requested by Congress. But lawmakers, particularly House and Senate Republicans, are pursuing their own investigations into the origins of the pandemic and are pressing the Biden administration and the intelligence community for more information.

Officials didn’t say if an unclassified version of the update would be issued.

U.S. national-security adviser Jake Sullivan, asked about the Journal’s reporting Sunday, said President Biden had repeatedly directed every part of the intelligence community to invest in trying to discern as much as possible about the origins of the pandemic. “President Biden specifically requested that the national labs, which are part of the Department of Energy, be brought into this assessment because he wants to put every tool at use to be able to figure out what happened here,” Mr. Sullivan said during an appearance on CNN.

There are a “variety of views in the intelligence community,” Mr. Sullivan added. “A number of them have said they just don’t have enough information.”

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The Covid-19 virus first circulated in Wuhan, China, no later than November 2019, according to the U.S. 2021 intelligence report. The pandemic’s origin has been the subject of vigorous, sometimes partisan debate among academics, intelligence experts and lawmakers.

David Relman, a Stanford University microbiologist who has argued for a dispassionate investigation into the pandemic’s beginnings, welcomed word of the updated findings.

“Kudos to those who are willing to set aside their preconceptions and objectively re-examine what we know and don’t know about Covid origins,” said Dr. Relman, who has served on several federal scientific-advisory boards. “My plea is that we not accept an incomplete answer or give up because of political expediency.”


The Energy Department revised its assessment of the origins of Covid-19, according to an updated U.S. intelligence report.
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An Energy Department spokesman declined to discuss details of its assessment but wrote in a statement that the agency “continues to support the thorough, careful, and objective work of our intelligence professionals in investigating the origins of COVID-19, as the President directed.”

The FBI declined to comment.

China, which has placed limits on investigations by the World Health Organization, has disputed that the virus could have leaked from one of its labs and has suggested it emerged outside China.

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The Chinese government didn’t respond to requests for comment about whether there has been any change in its views on the origins of Covid-19.

Some scientists argue that the virus probably emerged naturally and leapt from an animal to a human, the same pathway for outbreaks of previously unknown pathogens.

Intelligence analysts who have supported that view give weight to “the precedent of past novel infectious disease outbreaks having zoonotic origins,” the flourishing trade in a diverse set of animals that are susceptible to such infections, and their conclusion that Chinese officials didn’t have foreknowledge of the virus, the 2021 report said.

Yet no confirmed animal source for Covid-19 has been identified. The lack of an animal source, and the fact that Wuhan is the center of China’s extensive coronavirus research, has led some scientists and U.S. officials to argue that a lab leak is the best explanation for the pandemic’s beginning.

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U.S. State Department cables written in 2018 and internal Chinese documents show that there were persistent concerns about China’s biosafety procedures, which have been cited by proponents of the lab-leak hypothesis.

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Wuhan is home to an array of laboratories, many of which were built or expanded as a result of China’s traumatic experience with the initial severe acute respiratory syndrome, or SARS, epidemic beginning in 2002. They include campuses of the Wuhan Institute of Virology, the Chinese Center for Disease Control and Prevention, and the Wuhan Institute of Biological Products, which produces vaccines.

An outbreak at a seafood market in Wuhan had initially been thought to be the source of the virus, but some scientists and Chinese public-health officials now see it as an example of community spread rather than the place where the first human infection occurred, the 2021 intelligence community report said.

In May 2021, President Biden told the intelligence community to step up its efforts to investigate the origins of Covid-19 and directed that the review draw on work by the U.S.’s national laboratories and other agencies. Congress, he said, would be kept informed of that effort.

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The October 2021 report said that there was a consensus that Covid-19 wasn’t the result of a Chinese biological-weapons program. But it didn’t settle the debate over whether it resulted from a lab leak or came from an animal, saying that more information was needed from the Chinese authorities.

The U.S. intelligence community is made up of 18 agencies, including offices at the Energy, State and Treasury departments. Eight of them participated in the Covid-origins review, along with the National Intelligence Council.

Before that report, the Energy Department’s Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory prepared a study in May 2020 concluding that a lab-leak hypothesis was plausible and deserved further investigation.

The debate over whether Covid-19 might have escaped from a laboratory has been fueled by U.S. intelligence that three researchers from the Wuhan Institute of Virology became sick enough in November 2019 that they sought hospital care.

A House Intelligence Committee report concluded last year that this disclosure didn’t strengthen either the lab-leak or the natural-origin theory as the researchers might have become sick with a seasonal flu. But some former U.S. officials say the sick researchers were involved in coronavirus research.

Lawmakers have sought to find out more about why the FBI assesses a lab leak was likely. In an Aug. 1 letter to FBI Director Christopher Wray, Sen. Roger Marshall, a Kansas Republican, requested that the FBI share the records of its investigation and asked if the bureau had briefed Mr. Biden on its findings.

In a Nov. 18 letter, FBI Assistant Director Jill Tyson said the agency couldn’t share those details because of Justice Department policy on preserving “the integrity of ongoing investigations.” She referred the senator to Ms. Haines’s office for information on what briefings were arranged for the president.

Write to Michael R. Gordon at michael.gordon@wsj.com and Warren P. Strobel at Warren.Strobel@wsj.com

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Re: WSJ:定了,Covid是实验室泄漏

发表于 : 2023年 2月 27日 00:44
SODxx
Chord 写了: 2023年 2月 26日 20:50 WSJ曾经有一篇长文论证病毒是中国实验室泄露的。
但是证据都是美国实验室干这干那,然后,记者来一句,我我们美国拿到新病毒都要修改研究一番的,你们中国难道不会吗?

所以,黑人摘棉花 → 新疆摘棉花;
活摘器官也是美国移民局干过的;
还说土工在叙利亚、阿富汗悬赏杀美军;
不要忘记了。还有文化灭绝、种族灭绝...
blabla。。。

美国总是把自己做过的事情栽赃到别人头上。。。

Re: WSJ:定了,Covid是实验室泄漏

发表于 : 2023年 2月 27日 00:46
tnc
AQ14 写了: 2023年 2月 27日 00:36 不知道你BB个鸡巴?
你不会好好讲话?

我不知道你要的是什么reference ,

你是什么人啊!没有教养!

Re: WSJ:定了,Covid是实验室泄漏

发表于 : 2023年 2月 27日 02:12
dreamig
赖美豪中 写了: 2023年 2月 26日 18:29 我老早就说了,只有jb爷能做实我憋放毒,让美华进集中营这两件大事
马匹的什么时候进集中营啊,要提前收拾细软

Re: WSJ:定了,Covid是实验室泄漏

发表于 : 2023年 2月 27日 08:53
StillWandering