其他中国车我不知道
但BYD这两辆确实超过同类车
U8 :
U9 :
中國車已經超過美國車至少10年
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Re: 中國車已經超過美國車至少10年
福特ceo的话有没有link分享一下SOD 写了： 2023年 5月 4日 16:05 废话，当然是超越，
而且是全面超越
世界几大巨头，福特，丰田本田日产的CEO或者CTO都是电车中国领先
其中福特CEO公开叫美国人去中国长长见识
你这种就是典型的傻逼
Re: 中國車已經超過美國車至少10年
Ford CEO Jim Farley Heaps Praise On China EV Maker That Is In 'Totally Different World Than Tesla'
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Shanthi Rexaline, Benzinga Editor
April 21, 2023 4:55 AM | 2 min read
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Ford needs to have to rethink what the Ford brand means in a place like China, CEO Jim Farley says.
He reasoned that European foray of Chinese companies reflect the intense competition in some segments of the EV market.
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, which is currently ranked the number three player in the U.S. electric vehicle market, has set its sights on China, the world's second-largest EV market.
What Happened: "We're going to have to rethink what the Ford brand means in a place like China," said Ford CEO Jim Farley at a charity event in Detroit, Reuters reported.
He delved into the mushrooming competition in China, a "hot-and-happening" EV market. "It can't be like the middle of the market. It's totally over-filled," he reportedly said.
The executive said the only premium brands succeeding in the country were all-electric from the start, with a focus on technology, digital experience of drivers and services, the report said.
The differentiation is with respect to technology and services, he added.
In China, there is intense competition in the market for two-row SUV-styled EVs, Farley reportedly said. This is the segment in which EV leader
competes with its Model Y vehicle. It is because of the overcapacity in the segment that most domestic EV makers are eyeing Europe, a premium export market, he added.
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BYD Is Impressive: Farley also reserved special praise for Warren Buffett-backed BYD Company Limited
and lauded it for its vertical integration.
“There is one huge company that is so impressive, BYD. They’re in a totally different world than Tesla,” the Ford CEO.
“They’re totally vertically integrated, completely, all the way to batteries."
Why It's Important: Ford has a presence in China, although its performance leaves much to be desired. Its sales in the country comprise mainly its ICE vehicles. Data available from the company showed that its China sales fell 11% year-over-year in the third quarter of 2022.
Despite operating out of China for a long time and having a manufacturing plant in the country, Tesla hasn't been able to compete effectively with the domestic upstarts. Analysts say the absence of an ultra-affordable EV could be hurting the company.
by
Shanthi Rexaline, Benzinga Editor
April 21, 2023 4:55 AM | 2 min read
ZINGER KEY POINTS
Ford needs to have to rethink what the Ford brand means in a place like China, CEO Jim Farley says.
He reasoned that European foray of Chinese companies reflect the intense competition in some segments of the EV market.
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, which is currently ranked the number three player in the U.S. electric vehicle market, has set its sights on China, the world's second-largest EV market.
What Happened: "We're going to have to rethink what the Ford brand means in a place like China," said Ford CEO Jim Farley at a charity event in Detroit, Reuters reported.
He delved into the mushrooming competition in China, a "hot-and-happening" EV market. "It can't be like the middle of the market. It's totally over-filled," he reportedly said.
The executive said the only premium brands succeeding in the country were all-electric from the start, with a focus on technology, digital experience of drivers and services, the report said.
The differentiation is with respect to technology and services, he added.
In China, there is intense competition in the market for two-row SUV-styled EVs, Farley reportedly said. This is the segment in which EV leader
competes with its Model Y vehicle. It is because of the overcapacity in the segment that most domestic EV makers are eyeing Europe, a premium export market, he added.
See Also: Best Electric Vehicle Stocks
BYD Is Impressive: Farley also reserved special praise for Warren Buffett-backed BYD Company Limited
and lauded it for its vertical integration.
“There is one huge company that is so impressive, BYD. They’re in a totally different world than Tesla,” the Ford CEO.
“They’re totally vertically integrated, completely, all the way to batteries."
Why It's Important: Ford has a presence in China, although its performance leaves much to be desired. Its sales in the country comprise mainly its ICE vehicles. Data available from the company showed that its China sales fell 11% year-over-year in the third quarter of 2022.
Despite operating out of China for a long time and having a manufacturing plant in the country, Tesla hasn't been able to compete effectively with the domestic upstarts. Analysts say the absence of an ultra-affordable EV could be hurting the company.
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Re: 中國車已經超過美國車至少10年
福特CEO：必须重塑品牌以应对中国电动汽车竞争
2023年04月21日 13:02 231 次阅读 稿源：环球市场播报 0 条评论
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福特汽车公司CEO吉姆·法利表示，面对中国蓬勃发展且竞争激烈的电动汽车市场，福特需要重塑其品牌，以适应全球最大的汽车市场。法利周四晚间在底特律的一个慈善活动间隙对记者说：“我们将不得不重新思考福特品牌在中国这样的地方意味着什么。”
他说：“这不可能是中间市场。完全人满为患了。”
他没有被问到，也没有提供福特品牌重塑计划的细节。
今年第一季度，福特品牌在中国的销量下滑，其他老牌外国车企的销量和市场份额也有所下降，而以中国比亚迪为首的纯电动和插电式混合动力汽车的销量却在迅速增长。
刚从中国回来的法利表示，值得注意的是，少数在中国取得成功的高端品牌从一开始就是全电动的，专注于技术、司机和服务的“数字体验”。他提到，中国国内的汽车制造商小鹏、蔚来和理想汽车都做得很好。
他说，就连中国的国有汽车制造商也为电动汽车打造了新品牌。
他说：“差异化实际上在于技术和服务。”
“它们都很漂亮。所有这些车都很漂亮。去中国看看吧。”
2023年04月21日 13:02 231 次阅读 稿源：环球市场播报 0 条评论
IT 与交通
福特汽车公司CEO吉姆·法利表示，面对中国蓬勃发展且竞争激烈的电动汽车市场，福特需要重塑其品牌，以适应全球最大的汽车市场。法利周四晚间在底特律的一个慈善活动间隙对记者说：“我们将不得不重新思考福特品牌在中国这样的地方意味着什么。”
他说：“这不可能是中间市场。完全人满为患了。”
他没有被问到，也没有提供福特品牌重塑计划的细节。
今年第一季度，福特品牌在中国的销量下滑，其他老牌外国车企的销量和市场份额也有所下降，而以中国比亚迪为首的纯电动和插电式混合动力汽车的销量却在迅速增长。
刚从中国回来的法利表示，值得注意的是，少数在中国取得成功的高端品牌从一开始就是全电动的，专注于技术、司机和服务的“数字体验”。他提到，中国国内的汽车制造商小鹏、蔚来和理想汽车都做得很好。
他说，就连中国的国有汽车制造商也为电动汽车打造了新品牌。
他说：“差异化实际上在于技术和服务。”
“它们都很漂亮。所有这些车都很漂亮。去中国看看吧。”
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Re: 中國車已經超過美國車至少10年
Ford must rethink its brand for China as EVs boom, CEO says
https://www.reuters.com › business › autos-transportation
Apr 20, 2023 — "They're all beautiful. All of these vehicles are so beautiful. Go to China." Farley said Chinese automakers also faced intense competition in
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Apr 20, 2023 — "They're all beautiful. All of these vehicles are so beautiful. Go to China." Farley said Chinese automakers also faced intense competition in
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Re: 中國車已經超過美國車至少10年
客气一下，别当真。尼玛多少年前就吹中国是最大市场，到今天还是老二。中国电池方面有优势，电车充其量也就follow美帝水平，靠的是低成本卷，这和领先有个鸡巴关系，还尼玛领先10年，吹牛逼也靠谱点行不？
Re: 中國車已經超過美國車至少10年
美国车厂内部信息也是认为中国的电车的价格是难以置信的，当然技术上还是特斯拉最好的。而且在电车方面，如果不算补贴，除了特斯拉没有其他公司是盈利的，这种烧钱发展就看谁挺得住了CanGuanGong 写了： 2023年 5月 5日 12:54 客气一下，别当真。尼玛多少年前就吹中国是最大市场，到今天还是老二。中国电池方面有优势，电车充其量也就follow美帝水平，靠的是低成本卷，这和领先有个鸡巴关系，还尼玛领先10年，吹牛逼也靠谱点行不？
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Re: 中國車已經超過美國車至少10年
价格国内低也正常，就像生产个一般商品，河南厂肯定比北上广厂子成本低，但是吹河南技术领先北上广10年就忒么尴尬了hurricane1 写了： 2023年 5月 5日 13:08 美国车厂内部信息也是认为中国的电车的价格是难以置信的，当然技术上还是特斯拉最好的。而且在电车方面，如果不算补贴，除了特斯拉没有其他公司是盈利的，这种烧钱发展就看谁挺得住了
Re: 中國車已經超過美國車至少10年
专利是有期限的。欧美过去20年油车上的新的关键专利并不算多。中国车厂在2000年国外过期专利基础上自主研发迭代，并不会比国外车厂有多少劣势
实际上国内油车技术水平已经不比韩国车差。BBA比不过，但是主要是因为这个市场对B格的依赖，消费惯性大。
实际上国内油车技术水平已经不比韩国车差。BBA比不过，但是主要是因为这个市场对B格的依赖，消费惯性大。
Re: 中國車已經超過美國車至少10年
一天不吹牛嘴巴就要痒死，现在出口电车都是一带一撸的shithole country,钱也都是自己倒贴借过去的美元，然后卖车给人家算出口，车场还拿退税，黑幕三白嫖，谁亏了出了这笔钱动动你们小脑袋想想LOL