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竞猜一下：耶鲁会不会改校名？
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#22 Re: 竞猜一下：耶鲁会不会改校名？
"拜登感觉不是很强势的人", 他是一个非常阴的人，一个善于用假象掩盖来做龌龊事的人，一个为达目的不择手段的人。
wh. 写了： 2024年 2月 14日 01:48 wiki的Bork词条也说Bork的任命争议很大，the Senate rejected his nomination after a contentious and highly publicized confirmation hearing. 争议部分很长，基本也是对他的保守立场的质疑，和你这篇文章里说的拜登对Bork的指责一样。那恐怕不能怪到拜登一个人头上，是当时的社会风潮吧？拜登感觉不是很强势的人，恐怕还是顺水推舟的角色？
另一个对Bork的质疑点就是他撤销水门事件调查人的事，他的两任前任都不肯服从尼克松撤销调查人的要求，为此辞职，而他一上任就从了。他的回忆录里说他本来准备立刻辞职，但两位前任劝他做下去对司法部好，他就从了。这话自辩味道比较浓哦。
我都贴在下面：
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Bork
"Saturday Night Massacre"
On October 20, 1973, Solicitor General Bork was part of the "Saturday Night Massacre" when President Richard Nixon ordered the firing of Watergate Special Prosecutor Archibald Cox following Cox's request for tapes of his Oval Office conversations.
Nixon initially ordered U.S. Attorney General Elliot Richardson to fire Cox. Richardson resigned rather than carry out the order.
Richardson's top deputy, Deputy Attorney General William Ruckelshaus, also considered the order "fundamentally wrong" and resigned, making Bork Acting Attorney General.
When Nixon reiterated his order, Bork complied and fired Cox. Bork claimed he carried out the order under pressure from Nixon's attorneys and intended to resign immediately afterward, but was persuaded by Richardson and Ruckelshaus to stay on for the good of the Justice Department.
U.S. Supreme Court nomination
President Reagan nominated Bork for associate justice of the Supreme Court on July 1, 1987, to replace retiring Associate Justice Lewis F. Powell Jr. A hotly contested United States Senate debate over Bork's nomination ensued. Opposition was partly fueled by civil rights and women's rights groups, concerned about Bork's opposition to the authority claimed by the federal government to impose standards of voting fairness upon states (at his confirmation hearings for the position of solicitor general, he supported the rights of Southern states to impose a poll tax),[24] and his stated desire to roll back civil rights decisions of the Warren and Burger courts. Bork is one of four Supreme Court nominees (along with William Rehnquist, Samuel Alito, and Brett Kavanaugh) to have been opposed by the American Civil Liberties Union.[25][26] Bork was criticized for being an "advocate of disproportionate powers for the executive branch of Government, almost executive supremacy",[15] most notably, according to critics, for his role in the Saturday Night Massacre.
Before Justice Powell's expected retirement on June 27, 1987, some Senate Democrats had asked liberal leaders to "form a 'solid phalanx' of opposition" if President Reagan nominated an "ideological extremist" to replace him, assuming it would tilt the court rightward.[27] Democrats warned Reagan there would be a fight if Bork were nominated.[28] Nevertheless, Reagan nominated Bork for Powell's seat on July 1, 1987.
Following Bork's nomination, Senator Ted Kennedy took to the Senate floor with a strong condemnation of him, declaring:
Robert Bork's America is a land in which women would be forced into back-alley abortions, blacks would sit at segregated lunch counters, rogue police could break down citizens' doors in midnight raids, schoolchildren could not be taught about evolution, writers and artists could be censored at the whim of the Government, and the doors of the Federal courts would be shut on the fingers of millions of citizens for whom the judiciary is--and is often the only--protector of the individual rights that are the heart of our democracy. ... The damage that President Reagan will do through this nomination, if it is not rejected by the Senate, could live on far beyond the end of his presidential term. President Reagan is still our president. But he should not be able to reach out from the muck of Irangate, reach into the muck of Watergate and impose his reactionary vision of the Constitution on the Supreme Court and the next generation of Americans. No justice would be better than this injustice.[29][30]
Bork responded, "There was not a line in that speech that was accurate."[31] In an obituary of Kennedy, The Economist remarked that Bork may well have been correct, "but it worked".[31] Bork contended in his book, The Tempting of America, that the brief prepared for then-Senator Joe Biden, Chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, "so thoroughly misrepresented a plain record that it easily qualifies as world class in the category of scurrility."[32] Opponents of Bork's nomination found the arguments against him justified, claiming that Bork believed the Civil Rights Act was unconstitutional, and he supported poll taxes, literacy tests for voting, mandated school prayer, and sterilization as a requirement for a job, while opposing free speech rights for non-political speech and privacy rights for gay conduct.[33] In 1988, an analysis published in The Western Political Quarterly of amicus curiae briefs filed by U.S. Solicitors General during the Warren and Burger courts found that during Bork's tenure in the position during the Nixon and Ford Administrations (1973–1977), Bork took liberal positions in the aggregate as often as Thurgood Marshall did during the Johnson Administration (1965–1967) and more often than Wade H. McCree did during the Carter Administration (1977–1981), in part because Bork filed briefs in favor of the litigants in civil rights cases 75 percent of the time.[34][35]
Television advertisements produced by People For the American Way and narrated by Gregory Peck attacked Bork as an extremist. Kennedy's speech successfully fueled widespread public skepticism of Bork's nomination. The rapid response to Kennedy's "Robert Bork's America" speech stunned the Reagan White House, and the accusations went unanswered for 2+1⁄2 months.[36]
During debate over his nomination, Bork's video rental history was leaked to the press. His video rental history was unremarkable, and included such harmless titles as A Day at the Races, Ruthless People, and The Man Who Knew Too Much. Writer Michael Dolan, who obtained a copy of the hand-written list of rentals wrote about it for the Washington City Paper.[37] Dolan justified accessing the list on the ground that Bork himself had stated that Americans had only such privacy rights as afforded them by direct legislation. The incident led to the enactment of the 1988 Video Privacy Protection Act.[38][39]
To pro-choice rights legal groups, Bork's originalist views and his belief that the Constitution did not contain a general "right to privacy" were viewed as a clear signal that, should he become a justice of the Supreme Court, he would vote to completely overrule the Court's 1973 decision in Roe v. Wade. Accordingly, a large number of groups mobilized to press for Bork's rejection, and the 1987 Senate confirmation hearings became an intensely partisan battle.
On October 23, 1987, the Senate denied Bork's confirmation, with 42 senators voting in favor and 58 senators voting against. Two Democratic senators (David Boren of Oklahoma, and Fritz Hollings of South Carolina) voted in favor of his nomination, while six Republican senators (John Chafee of Rhode Island, Bob Packwood of Oregon, Arlen Specter of Pennsylvania, Robert Stafford of Vermont, John Warner of Virginia, and Lowell Weicker of Connecticut) voted against it.[40] His defeat in the Senate was the worst of any Supreme Court nominee since George Washington Woodward was defeated 20–29 in 1845, and the third-worst on record.
The seat to which Bork had been nominated went to Judge Anthony Kennedy, who was unanimously approved by the Senate, 97–0.[41] Bork, unhappy with his treatment in the nomination process, resigned his appellate court judgeship in 1988.
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#23 Re: 竞猜一下：耶鲁会不会改校名？
比如他和他儿子的什么公司的事？没关注那些新闻……
我刚还加了个问题：
不知道head of the Senate Judiciary Committee可不可以声明自己的倾向性，如果不可以，那他"pledged to civil rights groups that he will lead the opposition to the confirmation"是非常不公正的。如果他可以声明自己的倾向性，那作为民主党成员，他这样的pledge就是争取民主派人士的支持吧，倒也没有不妥？
#26 Re: 竞猜一下：耶鲁会不会改校名？
按wiki的说法是有争议：
The records of this period (when Elihu Yale was President of Madras of Fort St George, India) mention a flourishing slave trade in Madras. After English merchants began to kidnap young children and deport them to distant parts of the world, the administration of Fort St George stepped in and introduced laws to curb the practice. On 2 February 1688, Elihu Yale decreed that slaves should be examined by the judges of the choultry before being transported. Transportation of young children, in particular, was made unlawful.
Beyond this, the nature of Yale's involvement in the slave trade remains disputed. A blog post by a Yale history Ph.D. candidate and manager of the Yale Slavery and Abolition Portal notes that he permitted a law that at least ten slaves should be carried on every ship bound for Europe and in his capacity as judge he also on several occasions sentenced so-called "black criminals" to whipping and enslavement. On the other hand, according to Steven Pincus, a former Yale professor of history and current professor at the University of Chicago, Yale was never a slave trader and never owned slaves – and in fact opposed the slave trade during his time as President of Madras.
后面还有一段专门讨论Yale的贩奴问题，引用了耶鲁校报2020年的一则新闻："Cancel Yale? Not likely"
https://yaledailynews.com/blog/2020/06/ ... ot-likely/
里面详细讨论了关于Elihu Yale的蓄奴贩奴和对待奴隶的态度问题……耶鲁校长提到的那个Yale and Slavery Research Project也是2020年发起的，应该就是在那个风头上吧。感觉真是太无聊又太浪费人力物力，非要从故纸堆里挖坟鞭尸地考证这人的人格是否符合当代的政治标准有什么意义？
#28 Re: 竞猜一下：耶鲁会不会改校名？
对，他是因为贪污被弹劾去职的：
As president of Fort St George, Yale purchased territory for private purposes with East India Company funds, including a fort at Devanampattinam (now Cuddalore). Yale imposed high taxes for the maintenance of the colonial garrison and town, resulting in an unpopular regime and several revolts by Indians, brutally quelled by garrison soldiers. Yale was also notorious for arresting and trying Indians on his own private authority, including the hanging of a stable boy who had absconded with a Company horse.
Charges of corruption were brought against Elihu Yale in the last years of his presidency. He was eventually removed in 1692...
他撤职后带着卖印度钻石赚来的20万家财回到英国。1718年学校跟他接触，求他捐助，肯定也不会不知道他的不光彩历史：
In 1718, Cotton Mather contacted Yale and asked for his help. Mather represented a small institution of learning that had been founded in 1701 in Old Saybrook, Connecticut, as the Collegiate School of Connecticut, which needed money for a new building. In 1717, Sir Isaac Newton sent to the college a copy of his book Principia, on Newton's laws of motion and Newton's law of universal gravitation, and in 1718, Elihu Yale sent Mather 417 books, a portrait of King George I of Britain, and nine bales of goods. These last were sold by the school for £800. In gratitude, officials named the new building Yale; eventually the entire institution became Yale College.
记得耶鲁的学生导游说，800块钱本来买不到校名；学校写信跟他说这个提议，是希望他继续捐更多的钱。结果他突然去世，学校的算盘落空，又不能食言
还有个好玩的轶事是当时还有个大金主更给力，但姓得不好
：On 5 April 1999, Yale University recognised the 350th anniversary of Yale's birthday. An article that year in American Heritage magazine rated Elihu Yale the "most overrated philanthropist" in American history, arguing that the college that became Yale University was successful largely because of the generosity of a man named Jeremiah Dummer, but that the trustees of the school did not want it known by the name "Dummer College".
#32 Re: 竞猜一下：耶鲁会不会改校名？
I prefer Dummer University.wh. 写了： 2024年 2月 14日 03:31 对，他是因为贪污被弹劾去职的：
As president of Fort St George, Yale purchased territory for private purposes with East India Company funds, including a fort at Devanampattinam (now Cuddalore). Yale imposed high taxes for the maintenance of the colonial garrison and town, resulting in an unpopular regime and several revolts by Indians, brutally quelled by garrison soldiers. Yale was also notorious for arresting and trying Indians on his own private authority, including the hanging of a stable boy who had absconded with a Company horse.
Charges of corruption were brought against Elihu Yale in the last years of his presidency. He was eventually removed in 1692...
他撤职后带着卖印度钻石赚来的20万家财回到英国。1718年学校跟他接触，求他捐助，肯定也不会不知道他的不光彩历史：
In 1718, Cotton Mather contacted Yale and asked for his help. Mather represented a small institution of learning that had been founded in 1701 in Old Saybrook, Connecticut, as the Collegiate School of Connecticut, which needed money for a new building. In 1717, Sir Isaac Newton sent to the college a copy of his book Principia, on Newton's laws of motion and Newton's law of universal gravitation, and in 1718, Elihu Yale sent Mather 417 books, a portrait of King George I of Britain, and nine bales of goods. These last were sold by the school for £800. In gratitude, officials named the new building Yale; eventually the entire institution became Yale College.
记得耶鲁的学生导游说，800块钱本来买不到校名；学校写信跟他说这个提议，是希望他继续捐更多的钱。结果他突然去世，学校的算盘落空，又不能食言
还有个好玩的轶事是当时还有个大金主更给力，但姓得不好
On 5 April 1999, Yale University recognised the 350th anniversary of Yale's birthday. An article that year in American Heritage magazine rated Elihu Yale the "most overrated philanthropist" in American history, arguing that the college that became Yale University was successful largely because of the generosity of a man named Jeremiah Dummer, but that the trustees of the school did not want it known by the name "Dummer College".
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#33 Re: 竞猜一下：耶鲁会不会改校名？
接下来美帝所有大学回忆一下，凡是历史上不支持同性恋变性转性，分得清男女的人，都会让这帮人芒刺在背，所有都改名推倒重来。
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#39 Re: 竞猜一下：耶鲁会不会改校名？
同意。“耶鲁”的金字招牌属于无形资产，改名就等于从头再来。。。 回头毕业证拿出去会被人当成野鸡大学的
iBull 写了： 2024年 2月 13日 23:54 左逼喜欢装逼，但是他们不是傻逼。他们只有在损人利己的时候才会装逼。比如改一个学院名字就相当于把店里装修了一下，属于无伤大雅之装逼行为。但是改校名不一样。改校名属于掀桌子砸招牌。把耶鲁这个金字招牌砸烂换掉这种行为，属于损己利人的行为，他们是不会去做的。放心。
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#42 Re: 竞猜一下：耶鲁会不会改校名？
我也觉得学生这句话有点煽，好像自己感动自己……不过毕竟没有别人的经历，无法体会别人的切肤之痛。可历史上拥奴的人那么多，难不成每看一个名字都要被刺一下，那不自虐么……