分页: 2 / 11

#21 Re: 移民吃猫的谣言破了,又开始传言杀猪、性侵

发表于 : 2024年 9月 12日 09:42
wh
HBBH 写了: 2024年 9月 12日 01:39 一个 6 万人的小镇, 强插 2 万海地人(大部分),可以想象是什么情况。

NYC 几百万的城市, 塞 10万市长就叫苦连天。
是,我也查了一下,最近三年进入springfield的海地移民约有15000;全镇人口58,000,移民占比是非常高。不知道为啥springfield移民特别多。google只说当地工作多,待遇好,所以吸引众多海地移民逃离本国压迫。又说绝大部分海地移民是合法的。不知道是不是像福建移民一样,一个人扎下根,全村人都带过来。
google也说移民一方面促进经济,另一方面也给当地带来巨大人口和社会压力。我觉得说负面影响没问题,但不要造谣,造谣反而失去可信度。

#22 Re: 移民吃猫的谣言破了,又开始传言杀猪、性侵

发表于 : 2024年 9月 12日 09:43
chace
HBBH 写了: 2024年 9月 12日 01:41 海地人大白天抓鹅的警察报告

liar根本就不懂英文。 一个不知道是什么人打个电话, 就成了警察报告了?

#23 Re: 移民吃猫的谣言破了,又开始传言杀猪、性侵

发表于 : 2024年 9月 12日 09:45
YouHi
chace 写了: 2024年 9月 12日 09:43 liar根本就不懂英文。 一个不知道是什么人打个电话, 就成了警察报告了?
拿钱就要干活啊~~~

#24 Re: 移民吃猫的谣言破了,又开始传言杀猪、性侵

发表于 : 2024年 9月 12日 09:45
chace
HBBH 写了: 2024年 9月 12日 09:42 我相信那些把吃剩下的动物脑袋放小学旁边应该会有人拍照, 这些难道不是妓者们该干的活? 警察报告都有可能有。

我听了一会那个听证会, 有人问关于学校旁边毒品的问题, 还有好多是以前要求解决的问题的follow up, 官方说一两个星期就解决,结果人影都不见。 你不能要求三分钟的听证会拿出各种证据,就否认人家说的真实性。 这年头一个 racist 的帽子就足以毁掉平民的一生 ,人家犯得着到听证会上撒谎?
拿不出证据, 就不能肯定其真实性。

#25 Re: 移民吃猫的谣言破了,又开始传言杀猪、性侵

发表于 : 2024年 9月 12日 09:45
wh
HBBH 写了: 2024年 9月 12日 01:41 海地人大白天抓鹅的警察报告

这个也辟谣了吧,有人报警,但警察出警后没有找到任何证据:
https://www.springfieldnewssun.com/news ... BC6UKZJWQ/
County: No evidence of August claim that Haitians took geese at Springfield park

Clark County officials say that was only call to the dispatch center on this subject in 11 months; add that law enforcement and ODNR found no evidence
By Jessica Orozco
18 hours ago

Clark County officials said Wednesday morning that they cannot substantiate a new claim alleging Haitian immigrants were killing and/or eating wildlife.

A man called Clark County law enforcement dispatchers Aug. 26, alleging four Haitians were carrying geese in their hands. The call audio does not indicate whether the geese were alive or dead, but says it happened within the city of Springfield, near the bike trail along Buck Creek, near Water Street. The audio was first posted Tuesday night on X by Donald Trump Jr.

A “call detail report” from the Clark County Communications Center documents that call. It does not indicate that law enforcement officials ever found the geese, or found the four Haitians that the caller mentioned, to confirm the truth of the report. It says law enforcement eventually suggested the caller contact the Ohio Department of Natural Resources.

Clark County Commissioner Sasha Rittenhouse said Wednesday morning that the Ohio Department of Natural Resources was unable to find any merit to the claim.

“No videos have surfaced, no pictures have surfaced, no dead geese have surfaced; there’s nothing to substantiate that it’s happening,” Rittenhouse said at county commission’s regular meeting.

Discussion of alleged mistreatment of animals in Springfield took off over the weekend. A post in a local Facebook group claimed an unnamed person’s neighbor’s daughter’s friend found their cat hanging from a branch at a Haitian neighbor’s home being carved up to be eaten. The post said that Haitians were doing the same at Snyder Park with ducks and geese, and the post went viral nationally.

Prominent Republicans including former President Donald Trump, vice presidential candidate and U.S. Sen. JD Vance, businessman Elon Musk and U.S. Sen. Ted Cruz repeated the claims, with several using the city as an example for the need for immigration reform.

Springfield police, Mayor Rob Rue and Clark County Commission President Melanie Flax Wilt have all rejected the claims, saying no evidence has been found to support them.

Many people claiming on social media that Haitians are killing pets or birds in Springfield have posted a particular picture of a Black man in a blue shirt and khaki pants carrying a goose down a city street. The circumstances of that situation are not clear. But that picture has now been verified as being taken at the intersection of Cleveland Avenue and Northwold Road in Columbus, not Springfield.

Others arguing the stories are true have posted video of police questioning a woman for eating a pet cat. That incident, in which a woman was charged with cruelty to companion animals for allegedly killing and eating a cat, occurred in Canton, Ohio, not Springfield.

Clark County Sheriff’s Office Major Scott Cultice said at Wednesday’s meeting that he and another employee at the Clark County Combined Dispatch Center went through 11 months of call records Tuesday to check for reports on these matters, and the Aug. 26 call was the only one he was able to verify that had been made. He said that call ended up referred to ODNR.

Rittenhouse said she rode with an ODNR staffer last Thursday to look into some claims about Haitian immigrants stealing and eating geese and ducks, and learned that nothing came out of the call, with there being no evidence.

Flax Wilt said Wednesday morning that false claims lead to a waste of resources, and the Aug. 26 call led an officer to be dispatched on a “literal wild goose chase.”

#26 Re: 移民吃猫的谣言破了,又开始传言杀猪、性侵

发表于 : 2024年 9月 12日 09:46
HBBH
抓鹅的有报警记录, 那个说拦下来一辆白色的VAN 装满猫的有可能有警察记录, 这些都要妓者去挖。

#27 Re: 移民吃猫的谣言破了,又开始传言杀猪、性侵

发表于 : 2024年 9月 12日 09:48
VladPutin
HBBH 写了: 2024年 9月 12日 09:09 一天天到处造谣。 拿一个找不到人的列子来? 你翻墙的?, 美国还有 中西部生产农机的小作坊? 看美国地里跑到都是啥再来造谣。

2万人大都是吃政府的不工作的文盲, 大字不识一个, 除了吃福利就是翻垃圾箱。
你自己大概率是个五毛,书回你的贴是给你脸请不要蹬鼻子上脸找抽。书的新闻有根有据是NPR的新闻,你识字自己去找。当然你这种发帖减刑的自然不会认错,脸肿了也无所谓,总比死刑强。

#28 Re: 移民吃猫的谣言破了,又开始传言杀猪、性侵

发表于 : 2024年 9月 12日 09:49
YouHi
VladPutin 写了: 2024年 9月 12日 09:48 你自己大概率是个五毛,书回你的贴是给你脸请不要蹬鼻子上脸找抽。书的新闻有根有据是NPR的新闻,你识字自己去找。当然你这种发帖减刑的自然不会认错,脸肿了也无所谓,总比死刑强。
那货居然还是个版主。真是奇迹。

#29 Re: 移民吃猫的谣言破了,又开始传言杀猪、性侵

发表于 : 2024年 9月 12日 09:50
chace
wh 写了: 2024年 9月 12日 09:45 这个也辟谣了吧,有人报警,但警察出警后没有找到任何证据:
https://www.springfieldnewssun.com/news ... BC6UKZJWQ/
County: No evidence of August claim that Haitians took geese at Springfield park

Clark County officials say that was only call to the dispatch center on this subject in 11 months; add that law enforcement and ODNR found no evidence
By Jessica Orozco
18 hours ago

Clark County officials said Wednesday morning that they cannot substantiate a new claim alleging Haitian immigrants were killing and/or eating wildlife.

A man called Clark County law enforcement dispatchers Aug. 26, alleging four Haitians were carrying geese in their hands. The call audio does not indicate whether the geese were alive or dead, but says it happened within the city of Springfield, near the bike trail along Buck Creek, near Water Street. The audio was first posted Tuesday night on X by Donald Trump Jr.

A “call detail report” from the Clark County Communications Center documents that call. It does not indicate that law enforcement officials ever found the geese, or found the four Haitians that the caller mentioned, to confirm the truth of the report. It says law enforcement eventually suggested the caller contact the Ohio Department of Natural Resources.

Clark County Commissioner Sasha Rittenhouse said Wednesday morning that the Ohio Department of Natural Resources was unable to find any merit to the claim.

“No videos have surfaced, no pictures have surfaced, no dead geese have surfaced; there’s nothing to substantiate that it’s happening,” Rittenhouse said at county commission’s regular meeting.

Discussion of alleged mistreatment of animals in Springfield took off over the weekend. A post in a local Facebook group claimed an unnamed person’s neighbor’s daughter’s friend found their cat hanging from a branch at a Haitian neighbor’s home being carved up to be eaten. The post said that Haitians were doing the same at Snyder Park with ducks and geese, and the post went viral nationally.

Prominent Republicans including former President Donald Trump, vice presidential candidate and U.S. Sen. JD Vance, businessman Elon Musk and U.S. Sen. Ted Cruz repeated the claims, with several using the city as an example for the need for immigration reform.

Springfield police, Mayor Rob Rue and Clark County Commission President Melanie Flax Wilt have all rejected the claims, saying no evidence has been found to support them.

Many people claiming on social media that Haitians are killing pets or birds in Springfield have posted a particular picture of a Black man in a blue shirt and khaki pants carrying a goose down a city street. The circumstances of that situation are not clear. But that picture has now been verified as being taken at the intersection of Cleveland Avenue and Northwold Road in Columbus, not Springfield.

Others arguing the stories are true have posted video of police questioning a woman for eating a pet cat. That incident, in which a woman was charged with cruelty to companion animals for allegedly killing and eating a cat, occurred in Canton, Ohio, not Springfield.

Clark County Sheriff’s Office Major Scott Cultice said at Wednesday’s meeting that he and another employee at the Clark County Combined Dispatch Center went through 11 months of call records Tuesday to check for reports on these matters, and the Aug. 26 call was the only one he was able to verify that had been made. He said that call ended up referred to ODNR.

Rittenhouse said she rode with an ODNR staffer last Thursday to look into some claims about Haitian immigrants stealing and eating geese and ducks, and learned that nothing came out of the call, with there being no evidence.

Flax Wilt said Wednesday morning that false claims lead to a waste of resources, and the Aug. 26 call led an officer to be dispatched on a “literal wild goose chase.”
我早就给这个人讲过。
现在已经把事实给指出来了, 他还在瞎传, 只能说明他自己的偏见是多么根深蒂固

#30 Re: 移民吃猫的谣言破了,又开始传言杀猪、性侵

发表于 : 2024年 9月 12日 09:52
chace
HBBH 写了: 2024年 9月 12日 09:46 抓鹅的有报警记录, 那个说拦下来一辆白色的VAN 装满猫的有可能有警察记录, 这些都要妓者去挖。
有报警记录并不代表报的事情就是真实的

#31 Re: 移民吃猫的谣言破了,又开始传言杀猪、性侵

发表于 : 2024年 9月 12日 09:54
HBBH
你们真搞笑, 你也是翻墙的? 看不懂英文. 人家报警了, 然后警察不管或者没有抓到,就是没有发生?
这里警察根本就不想管/不敢管,因为是 海地人, 是人上人。
要是是白人抓鹅, 警察都可能给关起来了。

A “call detail report” from the Clark County Communications Center documents that call. It does not indicate that law enforcement officials ever found the geese, or found the four Haitians that the caller mentioned, to confirm the truth of the report. It says law enforcement eventually suggested the caller contact the Ohio Department of Natural Resources.

#32 Re: 移民吃猫的谣言破了,又开始传言杀猪、性侵

发表于 : 2024年 9月 12日 10:00
HBBH
不是有报导中国人抓乌龟(或者别的动物)让警察给关起来了?

#33 Re: 移民吃猫的谣言破了,又开始传言杀猪、性侵

发表于 : 2024年 9月 12日 10:01
chace
HBBH 写了: 2024年 9月 12日 09:54 你们真搞笑, 你也是翻墙的? 看不懂英文. 人家报警了, 然后警察不管或者没有抓到,就是没有发生?
这里警察根本就不想管/不敢管,因为是 海地人, 是人上人。
要是是白人抓鹅, 警察都可能给关起来了。

A “call detail report” from the Clark County Communications Center documents that call. It does not indicate that law enforcement officials ever found the geese, or found the four Haitians that the caller mentioned, to confirm the truth of the report. It says law enforcement eventually suggested the caller contact the Ohio Department of Natural Resources.
听不懂英文, 看不懂英文的是你。 一个不知是什么的人随便打个电话,报个鸡毛蒜皮的事,是真是假也不知道, 警察就得去调查? 你交了多少税钱来支撑这种工作量?

#34 Re: 移民吃猫的谣言破了,又开始传言杀猪、性侵

发表于 : 2024年 9月 12日 10:02
HBBH
下面这两张照片, 可以类比吗?

都是受保护的wild life, 怎么到你们嘴里就是随便一个报警电话。

https://www.aboluowang.com/2023/0704/1922746.html
图片

图片

#35 Re: 移民吃猫的谣言破了,又开始传言杀猪、性侵

发表于 : 2024年 9月 12日 10:04
agnis
不要把极端个例引申到群体攻击,国内还吃🐕肉呢,川铺这事长干。 但是15000移民基本上毁掉这个小镇,非法移民应该遣返。

#36 Re: 移民吃猫的谣言破了,又开始传言杀猪、性侵

发表于 : 2024年 9月 12日 10:05
Smartguy
我就知道老川绝对不会撒谎。

ABC主持孤陋寡闻,这下哉了。还fact check,你的知识库太小,丢人。

#37 Re: 移民吃猫的谣言破了,又开始传言杀猪、性侵

发表于 : 2024年 9月 12日 10:12
fard
就是真的话,可耻吗?世界上那么多人吃的不如美国人养的畜生,不可耻,把这些畜生吃了,反到可耻了!

#38 Re: 移民吃猫的谣言破了,又开始传言杀猪、性侵

发表于 : 2024年 9月 12日 10:15
HBBH
对, 你们可以大声说吃猫吃狗光荣。
fard 写了: 2024年 9月 12日 10:12 就是真的话,可耻吗?世界上那么多人吃的不如美国人养的畜生,不可耻,把这些畜生吃了,反到可耻了!

#39 Re: 移民吃猫的谣言破了,又开始传言杀猪、性侵

发表于 : 2024年 9月 12日 10:17
branching
川普一说,州长立马派州警给2m,突然增加这么多人包括非法移民真没有问题?个个都是站着说话不腰疼啊。

#40 Re: 移民吃猫的谣言破了,又开始传言杀猪、性侵

发表于 : 2024年 9月 12日 10:20
wh
cockroachusmle 写了: 2024年 9月 12日 09:09 你作为新版的老邢,这样赤裸裸的跳出来,有些不智吧。。。
任何谣言都应该澄清和制止流传。有证据的批评才有效,谣言式的批评只能给自己减分。
harris一样也有不实之词,比如说trump执政时期的失业率是大萧条之后最高的。bbc抓了双方的谣言:
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cgjv3gdxv7go
不过harris造的谣要么针对trump个人,要么不针对人;trump的大部分攻击是集体性的,因此反响更大。

你的类比也不对,老邢是旧站的拥有人,相当于新站的站长admin。我不是站长。
我只说了trump说移民吃猫是谣言,你就引申到我支持harris,还写进签名档。这一样是造谣传谣啊。