#21 Re: 福特号称要造出比BYD 更便宜的皮卡
发表于 : 2024年 11月 1日 13:06
想起李雪琴的笑话,“我妈不让”.等美国政府这个妈让了,黄花菜都凉了。
都说了,比亚迪即使加100%关税都有的赚,不信你去看看国内比亚迪报价。巨巨干脆就直接不让进。
没戏啊,比亚迪垂直整合度是最高的,除了电池,车里用的的空调,电机,还有很多零件,part都是自己产的foxdaddy 写了: 2024年 10月 31日 13:06 福特要想造出和比亚迪一样成本的车就需要比比亚迪更高的自动化程度和垂直整合度。福特需要大举引进中国生产线,机器人, 合资电池工厂,并且加以改良。
这属于第一个牛皮吹爆了,说不算,开始吹第二个牛皮。政府投的那个51亿算打水漂了。这都是我们纳税人的钱啊。PPT可以随便画,忽悠第二笔资金。ccmath 写了: 2024年 10月 29日 12:30 这个饼画的有点大
从特斯拉挖来个人显然不行,得把上海工厂加工人全部搬过来
Ford CEO says new mid-size electric pickup will match the cost of Chinese EVs like BYD
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Peter Johnson
| Oct 28 2024 - 3:04 pm PT
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With new low-cost Chinese flooding global markets, Ford CEO Jim Farley vows its new mid-size electric pickup is a “game changer.” Ford’s leader took a jab at BYD, vowing the company’s new electric pickup will match the costs of Chinese automakers building in Mexico.
In February, Farley revealed Ford had a secret “skunkworks” team developing a low-cost platform to power its next-gen models.
The team, led by Alan Clarke, who led the engineering on Tesla’s Model Y, is now filled with former Tesla, Rivian, Lucid, and Apple employees and continues to grow.
Ford confirmed this summer the first EV based on the new platform will be a mid-size electric pickup. The company said the new model is designed for “customers who want more for their money,” such as longer range and more utility.
As it develops what it promises to be one of the most efficient EV platforms, Ford said the team is benchmarking costs “against the best competitors in the world
ccmath 写了: 2024年 10月 29日 12:30 这个饼画的有点大
从特斯拉挖来个人显然不行,得把上海工厂加工人全部搬过来
Ford CEO says new mid-size electric pickup will match the cost of Chinese EVs like BYD
Avatar for Peter Johnson
Peter Johnson
| Oct 28 2024 - 3:04 pm PT
23 Comments
Ford's-electric-pickup-Chinese
With new low-cost Chinese flooding global markets, Ford CEO Jim Farley vows its new mid-size electric pickup is a “game changer.” Ford’s leader took a jab at BYD, vowing the company’s new electric pickup will match the costs of Chinese automakers building in Mexico.
In February, Farley revealed Ford had a secret “skunkworks” team developing a low-cost platform to power its next-gen models.
The team, led by Alan Clarke, who led the engineering on Tesla’s Model Y, is now filled with former Tesla, Rivian, Lucid, and Apple employees and continues to grow.
Ford confirmed this summer the first EV based on the new platform will be a mid-size electric pickup. The company said the new model is designed for “customers who want more for their money,” such as longer range and more utility.
As it develops what it promises to be one of the most efficient EV platforms, Ford said the team is benchmarking costs “against the best competitors in the world
那个Fleopardleo 写了: 2024年 10月 31日 20:58 中国航天集团和NASA对比没错吧,都是国家单位。怎么能说NASA是烂人呢?
Space X应该横向对比国内私人火箭公司吧,不过国内都是初创,还在初期。
Space X是很优秀,对比波音就看出来了。。。
感觉不可能,美国车厂已经在墨西哥加拿大布局了,也就是说现在美国卖的加墨生产的车,已经被计入资本循环了,里面的人工成本物料成本
中肯。in Mexico可能性也很低swuwan 写了: 2024年 11月 2日 15:08 感觉不可能,美国车厂已经在墨西哥加拿大布局了,也就是说现在美国卖的加墨生产的车,已经被计入资本循环了,里面的人工成本物料成本
如果有某个加墨的生产链条能产出便宜的车,那么对这些美国车厂的链条就是巨大的威胁,一定会下手,可能干死,也可能要求提价,活不下去的
唯一的可能是所有链条一起降价,但是这个降价不会被让利到消费端,大概率都被链条和资本吃掉
swuwan 写了: 2024年 11月 2日 15:08 感觉不可能,美国车厂已经在墨西哥加拿大布局了,也就是说现在美国卖的加墨生产的车,已经被计入资本循环了,里面的人工成本物料成本
如果有某个加墨的生产链条能产出便宜的车,那么对这些美国车厂的链条就是巨大的威胁,一定会下手,可能干死,也可能要求提价,活不下去的
唯一的可能是所有链条一起降价,但是这个降价不会被让利到消费端,大概率都被链条和资本吃掉
丰田的RAV4也有加拿大产的,VIN开头是2的好像就是
swuwan 写了: 2024年 11月 2日 20:42 丰田的RAV4也有加拿大产的,VIN开头是2的好像就是
美国车厂工会和资本要求?毕竟要考虑汽车产业涉及就业机会,如果加墨的生产挤压了美国的就业,美国的压力会大吧
另外和当地的各种条件有关?地皮,电力,设备,工人数量,教育水平,法律法规?全部搞完是不是还能保证利润?毕竟加墨就是美国的邻居,成本再降也不会天地差别吧