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的确，subaru的定位其实有想法的，神奇的户外圈子里的粉丝还不少。
我是误打误撞买了，之前芯片短缺前期间本来想买CX-5的，结果dealer太拽，连test drive都不给，唯一有个现车还要加价。
Subaru家倒是很热情，也给了折扣和0apr，还是日本运过来的车，因为急需就从了subaru forester。
开了以后觉得还不错，主动安全很有用，service也比honda好不少，四驱上山和有点积雪的路面也给力，算是被圈粉了，至少现在接下来换了肯定还会考虑下。
唯一无语的是，车上俩摄像头，他就不能顺便做个dash cam功能么。。。

mingliu 写了： 2024年 11月 7日 08:17 速霸陆是小众车，但是有一批坚定的粉丝群。

这个牌子一时半会儿黄不了

I'd have definitely owned a Subaru if Tesla didn't come around.

HaibaraAi 写了： 2024年 11月 7日 13:39 的确，subaru的定位其实有想法的，神奇的户外圈子里的粉丝还不少。
我是误打误撞买了，之前芯片短缺前期间本来想买CX-5的，结果dealer太拽，连test drive都不给，唯一有个现车还要加价。
Subaru家倒是很热情，也给了折扣和0apr，还是日本运过来的车，因为急需就从了subaru forester。
开了以后觉得还不错，主动安全很有用，service也比honda好不少，四驱上山和有点积雪的路面也给力，算是被圈粉了，至少现在接下来换了肯定还会考虑下。
唯一无语的是，车上俩摄像头，他就不能顺便做个dash cam功能么。。。

不给你dash cam功能是商业因素（市场部里MBA决定的），不是技术因素 （开发部里索南干瞪眼也没办法）:roll:

HaibaraAi 写了： 2024年 11月 7日 13:39 的确，subaru的定位其实有想法的，神奇的户外圈子里的粉丝还不少。
我是误打误撞买了，之前芯片短缺前期间本来想买CX-5的，结果dealer太拽，连test drive都不给，唯一有个现车还要加价。
Subaru家倒是很热情，也给了折扣和0apr，还是日本运过来的车，因为急需就从了subaru forester。
开了以后觉得还不错，主动安全很有用，service也比honda好不少，四驱上山和有点积雪的路面也给力，算是被圈粉了，至少现在接下来换了肯定还会考虑下。
唯一无语的是，车上俩摄像头，他就不能顺便做个dash cam功能么。。。

我认为你的苏八路不错。

楼主贴的美国网红，思考题 scotty kilmer, 也就是随便听听，别往'心里去。且别人拿给他的苏八路，驾驶历史全无。缸垫漏水是确实，但和发动机质量关系未必相关。漏光冷冻液，干烧一次引擎就能烧漏缸垫。

foxbat 写了： 2024年 11月 6日 17:31 一定要买日本车，可以看2025马自达CX50 hybrid版，就是把rav4 hybrid的powertrain嫁接到马自达车身上了，可靠省油，马自达的用料肯定比丰田更大方一些

@foxbat, thanks again for your inputs. Really want to get a Charger. the test drive impresses me a lot, it drives like a solid rock on highway -- but after thinking about other drivers in the family, I decided to go with Santa Fe because it has all safety features for junior drivers. Santa Fe is more of a normal SUV for daily use. I will miss the Charger which has a such great discount as of now.

The 2023 Santa Fe SEL AWD I bought was a loaner car. Since it is Hyundai Certified, so it has the original warranty. It has about 8000 miles on it but looks like new inside and outside. The final Sale price is $24,000 (down from $26500 with the original MSRP of $36,000) + $1000 (installed protections that dealer demands). Got the dealer matched with the Carmax price for the trade-in of my 2017 Subaru Legacy. I will miss the old legacy - it drives so smoothly in snowy days with nice handling for normal daily use. But it is the time to move on.

价钱便宜是硬道理，恭喜买了圣塔非

dreamcar1 写了： 2024年 11月 9日 23:19 @foxbat, thanks again for your inputs. Really want to get a Charger. the test drive impresses me a lot, it drives like a solid rock on highway -- but after thinking about other drivers in the family, I decided to go with Santa Fe because it has all safety features for junior drivers. Santa Fe is more of a normal car/sub for daily use. I will miss the Charger which has a such great discount as of now.

The 2023 Santa Fe SEL AWD I bought was a loaner car. Since it is Hyundai Certified, so it has the original warranty. It has about 8000 miles on it but looks like new inside and outside. The final Sale price is $24,000 (down from $26500 with the original MSRP of $36,000) + $1000 (installed protections that dealer demands). Got the dealer matched with the Carmax price for the trade-in of my 2017 Subaru Legacy. I will miss the old legacy - it drives so smoothly in snowy days with nice handling for normal daily use. But it is the time to move on.

dreamcar1 写了： 2024年 11月 9日 23:19 @foxbat, thanks again for your inputs. Really want to get a Charger. the test drive impresses me a lot, it drives like a solid rock on highway -- but after thinking about other drivers in the family, I decided to go with Santa Fe because it has all safety features for junior drivers. Santa Fe is more of a normal car/sub for daily use. I will miss the Charger which has a such great discount as of now.

The 2023 Santa Fe SEL AWD I bought was a loaner car. Since it is Hyundai Certified, so it has the original warranty. It has about 8000 miles on it but looks like new inside and outside. The final Sale price is $24,000 (down from $26500 with the original MSRP of $36,000) + $1000 (installed protections that dealer demands). Got the dealer matched with the Carmax price for the trade-in of my 2017 Subaru Legacy. I will miss the old legacy - it drives so smoothly in snowy days with nice handling for normal daily use. But it is the time to move on.

哪里能搞到一万多off MSRP？

buydig 写了： 2024年 11月 10日 08:54 哪里能搞到一万多off MSRP？

次新车 with 8k miles on it. (it was used as a loaner car at dealer, so technically (by law), it is not new) On the other hand - it's dealer certified - CPO - so it has all the original manufacture warranty (subtracting 1 yr/8k miles used). Otherwise, if you buy a used Hyundai car without CPO then you do not have 10yr/100k-miles powertrain warranty. Incentive wise, it's case by case. Do use Cargurus to see what's the "great deal" price for the model/trim you are looking for and go to a dealer to negotiate. normally, those cars will be on sale $8-10k off MRSP. 1. check Carfax to filter out cars with an accident 2. go ask for $2k off their sale price....

if you want a performance car, go check on Charger which is 30+% off MRSP ($38k). A very good car runs like a solid rock on highway. Yesterday, Just talked to one of neighbors who owns one for 9-10 years without any issue. he said last time he got to 100 mph on highway without noticing it. It's on my wish Iist although there is no need for a 3rd car for me at this moment. A used Charger sells at a similar price as the new 2023 Charger if you can find one nearby.

wolf_north_1234 写了： 2024年 11月 8日 00:11 我认为你的苏八路不错。

楼主贴的美国网红，思考题 scotty kilmer, 也就是随便听听，别往'心里去。且别人拿给他的苏八路，驾驶历史全无。缸垫漏水是确实，但和发动机质量关系未必相关。漏光冷冻液，干烧一次引擎就能烧漏缸垫。

Subaru resale value is not bad from my experience (lose about $11-12k for 8 years use with 53k miles on it). Off cause, nowadays most of used cars are overpriced to some degree (if a car was bought before the Covid time).

mingliu 写了： 2024年 11月 7日 08:17 速霸陆是小众车，但是有一批坚定的粉丝群。

这个牌子一时半会儿黄不了

我们家接连买了三辆Subaru的都已经退粉了。最后一次买是十年前。
今年换车的时候发现质次价高的评价，一点儿没错。滴了还越来越nb哄哄。

dreamcar1 写了： 2024年 11月 9日 23:19 @foxbat, thanks again for your inputs. Really want to get a Charger. the test drive impresses me a lot, it drives like a solid rock on highway -- but after thinking about other drivers in the family, I decided to go with Santa Fe because it has all safety features for junior drivers. Santa Fe is more of a normal SUV for daily use. I will miss the Charger which has a such great discount as of now.

The 2023 Santa Fe SEL AWD I bought was a loaner car. Since it is Hyundai Certified, so it has the original warranty. It has about 8000 miles on it but looks like new inside and outside. The final Sale price is $24,000 (down from $26500 with the original MSRP of $36,000) + $1000 (installed protections that dealer demands). Got the dealer matched with the Carmax price for the trade-in of my 2017 Subaru Legacy. I will miss the old legacy - it drives so smoothly in snowy days with nice handling for normal daily use. But it is the time to move on.

谢谢分享真实信息。

你如果有Trade in的话，则你的车价对我们普通人参考意义不太大。因dealer可能己在trade in上赚够了钱，而卖圣塔菲在这个价。

wmysh 写了： 2024年 11月 10日 10:35 我们家接连买了三辆Subaru的都已经退粉了。最后一次买是十年前。
今年换车的时候发现质次价高的评价，一点儿没错。滴了还越来越nb哄哄。

老粉丝都这么讲，看来俗八路的问题真是不小了

mingliu 写了： 2024年 11月 10日 13:41 老粉丝都这么讲，看来俗八路的问题真是不小了

丰田把Subaru买下后，我看这架势是要把这品牌砍了。

真巧，我的也是2017 legacy， 现在开了87K英里，感觉差不多， 雪地冰面非常稳。两套胎都是原厂胎， 就是每到4万多买就胎侧面扎钉子，要重新买。不过这种Goodyear eagle LS2的寿命也就5万到头了。

dreamcar1 写了： 2024年 11月 9日 23:19 @foxbat, thanks again for your inputs. Really want to get a Charger. the test drive impresses me a lot, it drives like a solid rock on highway -- but after thinking about other drivers in the family, I decided to go with Santa Fe because it has all safety features for junior drivers. Santa Fe is more of a normal SUV for daily use. I will miss the Charger which has a such great discount as of now.

The 2023 Santa Fe SEL AWD I bought was a loaner car. Since it is Hyundai Certified, so it has the original warranty. It has about 8000 miles on it but looks like new inside and outside. The final Sale price is $24,000 (down from $26500 with the original MSRP of $36,000) + $1000 (installed protections that dealer demands). Got the dealer matched with the Carmax price for the trade-in of my 2017 Subaru Legacy. I will miss the old legacy - it drives so smoothly in snowy days with nice handling for normal daily use. But it is the time to move on.

Pot 写了： 2024年 11月 10日 14:11 真巧，我的也是2017 legacy， 现在开了87K英里，感觉差不多， 雪地冰面非常稳。两套胎都是原厂胎， 就是每到4万多买就胎侧面扎钉子，要重新买。不过这种Goodyear eagle LS2的寿命也就5万到头了。

Did you have the battery issue and have it changed by Subaru? Mine had a battery issue which constantly drains out due to old software trying to link to 2/3G signal. Subaru has sort of recall on it (change battery and software update) just in case you did not know.

Subaru长年宣传的安全性高可能很快就要崩塌了

wmysh 写了： 2024年 11月 10日 13:45 丰田把Subaru买下后，我看这架势是要把这品牌砍了。

dreamcar1 写了： 2024年 11月 10日 18:24 Did you have the battery issue and have it changed by Subaru? Mine had a battery issue which constantly drains out due to old software trying to link to 2/3G signal. Subaru has sort of recall on it (change battery and software update) just in case you did not know.

我的电池正好3年左右坏了，当时不知道能保，自己Costco换了。回来找Subaru报销被拒了

geniushanbiao 写了： 2024年 11月 6日 23:29 斯巴鲁能跑的地方，特斯拉去不了。

大部分人都是城里开开，撕拉不用去加油站，可能被黑哥抢，所以撕拉买的人多

ccmath 写了： 2024年 11月 10日 22:51 Subaru长年宣传的安全性高可能很快就要崩塌了

安全性还在，可靠性本来就没有。

Pot 写了： 2024年 11月 11日 12:54 我的电池正好3年左右坏了，当时不知道能保，自己Costco换了。回来找Subaru报销被拒了

我半年往电池里补充一次蒸馏水，原厂电池用了8年。