特斯拉又recall

[YWY]

又是这个特吹的胡扯。你那除了这种垃圾的胡扯也拿不出什么像样的东西了。safety recall要看性质的好不？福特通用经常有那种某个螺丝可能没拧紧或者某个管子可能没固定好之类的实际上无关痛痒的recall这就是为什么他们的recall这么多。你特斯拉cybertruck大灯这么大的设计缺陷我也没见他们recall啊。

所以，在你眼里，福特通用的recall都不是事儿，呵呵。

[Narcotics07]

非马工没做过软件工程的真是少见多怪。

擦。电脑不行最差蓝屏，汽车不行要死人的

马公脑子进水了，把什么都看成机器，大不了重启

要不先把马公的脑子重启一下？

[geniushanbiao]

擦。电脑不行最差蓝屏，汽车不行要死人的

马公脑子进水了，把什么都看成机器，大不了重启

要不先把马公的脑子重启一下？

马工这脑子真不知道怎么长得，觉得全世界什么东西都能用代码解决？737max摔下来两架都不当回事，一个OTA解决？

[geniushanbiao]

所以，在你眼里，福特通用的recall都不是事儿，呵呵。

不是我眼里福特通用的recall不是事儿，而是你眼里特斯拉的recall都不是事儿。

[YWY]

不是我眼里福特通用的recall不是事儿，而是你眼里特斯拉的recall都不是事儿。

我只是全面公平对比。看下面这个推特贴。

https://x.com/SawyerMerritt/status/1870871350593671298
https://datahub.transportation.gov/stor ... 38mw-dp8u/

I dug into the data. Fiat Chrysler (FCA) was the most recalled automaker in the US in 2024, while
Tesla was one of the least. Tesla's over-the-air (OTA) software update recalls in the US affected 5,096,386 vehicles (many vehicles received multiple OTA recalls, so they are counted more than once.) In contrast, Tesla's physical recalls—requiring a visit to a service center—affected only 39,311 vehicles, accounting for just 0.77% of the total.

Total recalls (including physical & software update recalls):
• FCA: 72
• Ford: 62
• BMW: 36
• GM: 33
• Mercedes: 27
• Hyundai: 25
• Jaguar Land Rover (JLR): 20
• Kia: 19
• Honda: 18
• VW: 18
• Nissan: 17
• Toyota: 16
• Tesla: 15
• Mazda: 8
• Rivian: 6
• Lucid: 5
• Volvo: 4

The number of physical recalls each automaker had that required customers to visit a service center:
• FCA: 72
• Ford: 62
• BMW: 36
• GM: 33
• Mercedes: 27
• Hyundai: 24
• Jaguar Land Rover (JLR): 20
• Kia: 19
• Honda: 18
• VW: 18
• Toyota: 16
• Nissan: 16
• Mazda: 8
• Tesla: 7
• Rivian: 4
• Volvo: 4
• Lucid: 2

The number of over-the-air software update recalls each automaker had that not require any service center visits:
• Tesla: 8
• Lucid: 3
• Hyundai: 1
• Rivian: 1
• Nissan: 1
• BMW: 0
• Toyota: 0
• FCA: 0
• Ford: 0
• GM: 0
• Mercedes: 0
• JLR: 0
• Kia: 0
• Honda: 0
• VW: 0
• Mazda: 0
• Volvo: 0

Out of the 401 total recalls, including both physical and software updates, only 14 were remedied with over-the-air software updates. Tesla accounted for 57% of all OTA recalls.

The mainstream media has done an excellent job of convincing people that Teslas break all the time and or need fixing, but that couldn’t be further from the truth. The data above shows that not only does @Tesla
rank near the bottom in total recall count, but 99.23% of the Teslas that were recalled in the US were “fixed” with a simple over-the-air software update performed in the comfort of the owners’ homes or garages—no service center visit required.

Tesla makes the safest cars on the road (Top Safety Pick+ by IIHS). Their active safety features are great in preventing crashes, but if the worst happens, they have incredible passive safety engineering too.

[ignius]

不用跟一帮蠢人多废话。

[geniushanbiao]

我只是全面公平对比。看下面这个推特贴。

https://x.com/SawyerMerritt/status/1870871350593671298
https://datahub.transportation.gov/stor ... 38mw-dp8u/

I dug into the data. Fiat Chrysler (FCA) was the most recalled automaker in the US in 2024, while
Tesla was one of the least. Tesla's over-the-air (OTA) software update recalls in the US affected 5,096,386 vehicles (many vehicles received multiple OTA recalls, so they are counted more than once.) In contrast, Tesla's physical recalls—requiring a visit to a service center—affected only 39,311 vehicles, accounting for just 0.77% of the total.

Total recalls (including physical & software update recalls):
• FCA: 72
• Ford: 62
• BMW: 36
• GM: 33
• Mercedes: 27
• Hyundai: 25
• Jaguar Land Rover (JLR): 20
• Kia: 19
• Honda: 18
• VW: 18
• Nissan: 17
• Toyota: 16
• Tesla: 15
• Mazda: 8
• Rivian: 6
• Lucid: 5
• Volvo: 4

The number of physical recalls each automaker had that required customers to visit a service center:
• FCA: 72
• Ford: 62
• BMW: 36
• GM: 33
• Mercedes: 27
• Hyundai: 24
• Jaguar Land Rover (JLR): 20
• Kia: 19
• Honda: 18
• VW: 18
• Toyota: 16
• Nissan: 16
• Mazda: 8
• Tesla: 7
• Rivian: 4
• Volvo: 4
• Lucid: 2

The number of over-the-air software update recalls each automaker had that not require any service center visits:
• Tesla: 8
• Lucid: 3
• Hyundai: 1
• Rivian: 1
• Nissan: 1
• BMW: 0
• Toyota: 0
• FCA: 0
• Ford: 0
• GM: 0
• Mercedes: 0
• JLR: 0
• Kia: 0
• Honda: 0
• VW: 0
• Mazda: 0
• Volvo: 0

Out of the 401 total recalls, including both physical and software updates, only 14 were remedied with over-the-air software updates. Tesla accounted for 57% of all OTA recalls.

The mainstream media has done an excellent job of convincing people that Teslas break all the time and or need fixing, but that couldn’t be further from the truth. The data above shows that not only does @Tesla
rank near the bottom in total recall count, but 99.23% of the Teslas that were recalled in the US were “fixed” with a simple over-the-air software update performed in the comfort of the owners’ homes or garages—no service center visit required.

Tesla makes the safest cars on the road (Top Safety Pick+ by IIHS). Their active safety features are great in preventing crashes, but if the worst happens, they have incredible passive safety engineering too.

你又在拿这个sawyer的bullshit在这混淆视听。他这破文章通篇都是垃圾，我都懒的驳斥。

[drifter]

recall统计应该按车型算吧 按厂商算应该不是智商问题 而是收钱的问题

[YWY]

你又在拿这个sawyer的bullshit在这混淆视听。他这破文章通篇都是垃圾，我都懒的驳斥。

数据在这，呵呵

Total recalls (including physical & software update recalls) of automakers in the US in 2024:
• FCA: 72
• Ford: 62
• BMW: 36
• GM: 33
• Mercedes: 27
• Hyundai: 25
• Jaguar Land Rover (JLR): 20
• Kia: 19
• Honda: 18
• VW: 18
• Nissan: 17
• Toyota: 16
• Tesla: 15
• Mazda: 8
• Rivian: 6
• Lucid: 5
• Volvo: 4

[ignius]

奔驰宝马这么多的recall，豪车中的垃圾。

[geniushanbiao]

数据在这，呵呵

Total recalls (including physical & software update recalls) of automakers in the US in 2024:
• FCA: 72
• Ford: 62
• BMW: 36
• GM: 33
• Mercedes: 27
• Hyundai: 25
• Jaguar Land Rover (JLR): 20
• Kia: 19
• Honda: 18
• VW: 18
• Nissan: 17
• Toyota: 16
• Tesla: 15
• Mazda: 8
• Rivian: 6
• Lucid: 5
• Volvo: 4

这只是recall的数量，要除以sales总数。你一年卖10辆车，就算全部recall，affect只有10个人。一年卖10000辆车，recall 1%也是affect 100个人。这事你去看那个sawyer的帖子很多老美都point出来这个明显的问题。

这个Sawyer明显就是个无脑特芬，他自己说的很清楚是个tsla investor，跟你是一个类型的人。

[geniushanbiao]

recall统计应该按车型算吧 按厂商算应该不是智商问题 而是收钱的问题

这个Sawyer Merritt是个无脑特芬，因为他自己就是个人tsla investor(他自己的profile上说的清清楚楚)。

[YWY]

这只是recall的数量，要除以sales总数。你一年卖10辆车，就算全部recall，affect只有10个人。一年卖10000辆车，recall 1%也是affect 100个人。这事你去看那个sawyer的帖子很多老美都point出来这个明显的问题。

这个Sawyer明显就是个无脑特芬，他自己说的很清楚是个tsla investor，跟你是一个类型的人。

好，那就把年销量也考虑进来。你说，福特和特斯拉在美国的年销量（大概）都是多少？

[geniushanbiao]

好，那就把年销量也考虑进来。你说，福特和特斯拉在美国的年销量（大概）都是多少？

干嘛跟福特比？你们不是吹特斯拉可靠性高什么的么？跟丰田比比，或者跟lexus比比。

[geniushanbiao]

对了除了这个以外还有个问题我没说的，特斯拉有不少设计缺陷都是应该立即recall的，但是他们就是死鸭子嘴硬硬挺着不recall，比如那个遇到紧急情况根本打不开的后门紧急逃生拉绳，还有cybertruck那个下雪天就会被积雪覆盖的大灯设计。

[YWY]

干嘛跟福特比？你们不是吹特斯拉可靠性高什么的么？跟丰田比比，或者跟lexus比比。

你们不是黑特斯拉可靠性低什么的么？

[geniushanbiao]

你们不是黑特斯拉可靠性低什么的么？

对啊，所以特斯拉可靠性基本和油车里最低的奔驰宝马福特什么的差不多啊。

我大概找了点数据。2022年美国有一共大概2.83亿辆注册车辆，2023～2024年略有增长在2.9亿辆左右。截止到2024年9月，ford占总数的大约12%，也就是3480万附近。另外toyota占10%也就是2900万附近，雪佛莱占13%也就是大概3770万附近。特斯拉的数据我没找到，估计连这些的零头都达不到吧？

https://www.statista.com/forecasts/9972 ... -in-the-us