新款model Y总结

[ferrygao]

为啥惨？不懂

不懂就赢了 又揩了交税人民

[Yesterday]

1. 噪音控制，ride quality方面比老款有很大的提高。特别是在过一些不太平正的路面时区别很大，新款的底盘很好的过滤掉了，老款则是传进到cabin，尤其后排的乘客会觉得有些颠。

2. 整体外形跟原来差不多。个人觉得前面light bar看着一般，后面看着比原来要好看很多，显得高科技感十足。内饰比原来有不小的提高，体现在用料，装配质量，后排座椅的舒适度。后排的screen是娃的最爱，再也不用怕忘记带ipad，或者忘带hotspot设备了。

3. 后排座椅完全是电动控制了。在后备箱按一下按钮，后排座椅就可以自动放倒，而且前排座椅也会自动调节不会造成任何阻碍，方平后前排座椅还会回到原来的位置。这个太省事了，非常贴心的设计，特别是像我家经常在车里睡觉的。

4. 新款的fsd比老款提高很大。我开了两周还没有一次需要安全接管过。非常的丝滑，安稳。

5. range：按照我的开法，实际里程300迈左右。比老款提高了20-30迈。

图在二楼。

一共多少？
$7500有income限制吧？

[ignius]

买的话有收入限制。lease的话就没有。
税前价格，减掉tc和各种credit，是$39K.

一共多少？
$7500有income限制吧？

[Yesterday]

买的话有收入限制。lease的话就没有。
税前价格，减掉tc和各种credit，是$39K.

这个价钱非常不错

[Fighz]

哈哈，我可是劝你等一等的。

是的 我也想等 但德州这天气车里没空调很难熬 早知道这么快出来我就熬一熬

[geniushanbiao]

买的话有收入限制。lease的话就没有。
税前价格，减掉tc和各种credit，是$39K.

可以lease之后buyout

[Tesla]

可以lease之后buyout

价格怎么算

[geniushanbiao]

价格怎么算

是after tax credit的，但是里面加了利息。

[锄禾]

我还是不太喜欢这个新屁股

[ShuiNi]

我还是不太喜欢这个新屁股

新屁股改掉了之前model Y的一个大问题，就是一旦倒车时磕到墙了，就会磕到spoiler, 而且一整片都要换掉，维修起来超贵。

[geniushanbiao]

新屁股改掉了之前model Y的一个大问题，就是一旦倒车时磕到墙了，就会磕到spoiler, 而且一整片都要换掉，维修起来超贵。

不光是spoiler，正常车倒车磕到东西大概率是碰保险杠bumper cover，换个bumper cover就行，老Y倒车大概率直接碰到后备箱盖，修的话得换整个后备箱盖包括后窗户。这个新屁股倒是看上去好了些，起码保险杠凸出来了。

[ignius]

老Y的屁股也挺好看的，只不过跟老model 3一摸一样，分不清。
现在新款的Y和3有很大的区别，不会搞混了。

我还是不太喜欢这个新屁股

[TNTCN]

新model y最近没啥折扣也没0apr。。。
后排的小屏幕能看视频吗？我以为只能调节后排空调。。。

[geniushanbiao]

新model y最近没啥折扣也没0apr。。。
后排的小屏幕能看视频吗？我以为只能调节后排空调。。。

不怕把孩子眼睛看坏就尽情看。

[ignius]

能呀，可以一边开车一边看。

新model y最近没啥折扣也没0apr。。。
后排的小屏幕能看视频吗？我以为只能调节后排空调。。。

[lsheng]

新屁股改掉了之前model Y的一个大问题，就是一旦倒车时磕到墙了，就会磕到spoiler, 而且一整片都要换掉，维修起来超贵。

那纽约很惨，那么挤，经常会碰。

[geniushanbiao]

那纽约很惨，那么挤，经常会碰。

所以纽约的保险公司都不愿意给特斯拉上保险，尤其是cybertruck。很多parking garage也拒绝接受cybertruck，说是保险公司告诉他们这么做的。

https://www.torquenews.com/11826/parkin ... -companies

[bam]

买的话有收入限制。lease的话就没有。
税前价格，减掉tc和各种credit，是$39K.

AI 是这样回答的：
Yes, there are income limits for both leasing and purchasing new and used EVs to receive the $7,500 tax credit, but the limits differ slightly. For new EVs, the modified adjusted gross income (MAGI) cannot exceed $300,000 for married couples filing jointly, $225,000 for heads of households, and $150,000 for all other filers. For used EVs, the MAGI limits are lower, ranging from $75,000 to $150,000 depending on filing status.

[ignius]

你的AI在这点上是错的。lease的话，走的是business，相当于leasing company拿到tax credit，然后再传给顾客。

AI 是这样回答的：
Yes, there are income limits for both leasing and purchasing new and used EVs to receive the $7,500 tax credit, but the limits differ slightly. For new EVs, the modified adjusted gross income (MAGI) cannot exceed $300,000 for married couples filing jointly, $225,000 for heads of households, and $150,000 for all other filers. For used EVs, the MAGI limits are lower, ranging from $75,000 to $150,000 depending on filing status.

[YWY]

AI 是这样回答的：
Yes, there are income limits for both leasing and purchasing new and used EVs to receive the $7,500 tax credit, but the limits differ slightly. For new EVs, the modified adjusted gross income (MAGI) cannot exceed $300,000 for married couples filing jointly, $225,000 for heads of households, and $150,000 for all other filers. For used EVs, the MAGI limits are lower, ranging from $75,000 to $150,000 depending on filing status.

问AI，要把问题问对、问清楚。

我问“does income limit apply to ev tax credit when I lease it”，Chrome搜索自带的AI的回答如下：

No, income limits generally do not apply when leasing an EV to claim the tax credit. Leasing is considered a commercial transaction, making the EV eligible for the full $7,500 tax credit under Section 45W of the tax code, which does not have income restrictions. The lessor (the leasing company) receives the tax credit, and they may choose to pass on some or all of the savings to the lessee through lower lease payments. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]
Here's a more detailed explanation: [2, 2, 6, 6]

• Leasing is considered a commercial transaction: When you lease an EV, the leasing company (often the manufacturer's financing arm) technically purchases the vehicle and then leases it to you. [2, 2, 5, 6, 6]
• Commercial vehicle tax credit applies: This commercial transaction triggers the use of the Commercial Clean Vehicle Credit under Section 45W of the tax code. [2, 2, 4, 4, 7]
• No income limits: This commercial credit doesn't have the income restrictions that apply to the regular clean vehicle credit (Section 30D) for purchases. [2, 2, 5, 5, 8, 9]
• Tax credit benefits to the lessee: The leasing company receives the tax credit, but they often pass on the savings to you in the form of lower monthly payments or reduced lease price, as Kiplinger explains. [1, 3, 3, 5, 5]

Generative AI is experimental.

[1] https://www.kiplinger.com/taxes/ev-leas ... t-loophole
[2] https://www.edmunds.com/fuel-economy/th ... edits.html
[3] https://www.kiplinger.com/taxes/ev-tax-credit
[4] https://www.cnbc.com/2024/07/18/loophol ... an-ev.html
[5] https://www.consumerreports.org/cars/wh ... 007689035/
[6] https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a4413 ... ax-credit/
[7] https://pluginamerica.org/learn/federal ... eases-45w/
[8] https://www.experian.com/blogs/ask-expe ... ectic-car/
[9] https://www.eenews.net/articles/wealthy ... fficiency/