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#21 Re: 4-Way Stop 路口怎么走

发表于 : 2025年 7月 18日 13:04
ShuiNi
Trump 写了: 2025年 7月 18日 12:57 楼主是直行特斯拉?
按你的理解可以让对面的白车永远无法左转,只要另外两个方向一直有直行的车。
4way stop 的路口,是first come first go. 没有转弯让直行一说。
我不是直行的特斯拉,这是reddit上的视频。

白车怎么会永远无法左转呢?白车应该开过stop sign,等视频车直行通过后左转。这个时候白车在路口中央,有最优先路权。

4way stop 的路口,如果如果你和对向来车同时停着,同时进入路口,这时候转弯要让直行的。At any intersection where you want to turn left or right, you must yield the right-of-way. If you are turning left, you must wait for approaching traffic to pass or turn and for pedestrians in or approaching your path to cross.

#22 Re: 4-Way Stop 路口怎么走

发表于 : 2025年 7月 18日 13:05
ShuiNi
wolf_north_1234 写了: 2025年 7月 18日 13:03 披上你朋友的马夹,用英文,能增加说服力?

Four way stop, 先到先走。

对面白车先到,先走是正确的。
如果发生白车和视频车撞车,你看看警察和保险公司会怎么说吧。

#23 Re: 4-Way Stop 路口怎么走

发表于 : 2025年 7月 18日 13:09
drifter
ShuiNi 写了: 2025年 7月 18日 13:05 如果发生白车和视频车撞车,你看看警察和保险公司会怎么说吧。
出了事应该都是五五开 除非明显恶意 那就不是交通事故了

#24 Re: 4-Way Stop 路口怎么走

发表于 : 2025年 7月 18日 13:20
ShuiNi
drifter 写了: 2025年 7月 18日 13:09 出了事应该都是五五开 除非明显恶意 那就不是交通事故了
我没有出过这种事情,但按照那个加州警察的说法,如果真撞了,应该是白车全责,因为“左转车没有让直行车”。比较好奇现实中有没有实例,把这种事情搞清楚。

#25 Re: 4-Way Stop 路口怎么走

发表于 : 2025年 7月 18日 13:27
off
一:白车应该先走
二:4way stop sign路口只能有一辆车行驶

#26 Re: 4-Way Stop 路口怎么走

发表于 : 2025年 7月 18日 15:40
drifter
ShuiNi 写了: 2025年 7月 18日 13:20 我没有出过这种事情,但按照那个加州警察的说法,如果真撞了,应该是白车全责,因为“左转车没有让直行车”。比较好奇现实中有没有实例,把这种事情搞清楚。
左转车有路权 但还是要确保安全避让
直行车没有路权 肯定有责任

If the left-turning car stopped first at the four-way stop intersection before the straight-moving car stopped, the left-turning car generally has the right-of-way, assuming both drivers followed proper protocol. However, fault in a collision still depends on the specific actions of each driver. Here’s a concise analysis based on this new information and general U.S. traffic laws:

### Key Points:
1. **Right-of-Way at a Four-Way Stop**:
- The vehicle that stops first at a four-way stop typically has the right-of-way and may proceed first, provided it’s safe.
- A left-turning driver who stopped first still has a duty to yield to any vehicles already in the intersection or oncoming traffic that could pose a hazard.

2. **Fault Analysis**:
- **If the left-turning car proceeded safely**: If the left-turning car stopped first, confirmed the intersection was clear, and began the turn before the straight-moving car entered the intersection, the straight-moving car may be at fault for failing to yield or proceeding out of turn.
- **If the left-turning car misjudged the situation**: Even if the left-turning car stopped first, it could be at fault if the driver initiated the turn unsafely (e.g., misjudging the straight-moving car’s speed or position, or failing to yield to a vehicle already legally in the intersection).
- **If the straight-moving car violated rules**: If the straight-moving car failed to stop completely, ran the stop sign, or proceeded prematurely, they are likely at fault for not respecting the left-turning car’s right-of-way.

3. **Shared Fault**:
- Fault could be shared if both drivers acted negligently. For example, if the left-turning driver started the turn without ensuring the intersection was fully clear, and the straight-moving driver failed to stop or yield appropriately, both could bear some responsibility (comparative negligence).

4. **Evidence and Local Laws**:
- Fault determination often hinges on evidence like police reports, dashcam footage, or witness statements.
- State-specific laws apply. For instance, in many states, left-turning drivers have a heightened duty to ensure safety, even with the right-of-way.

### Likely Outcome:
- If the left-turning car stopped first, had the right-of-way, and proceeded cautiously but was hit by the straight-moving car, the straight-moving car is likely at fault for failing to yield.
- However, if the left-turning car initiated the turn unsafely (e.g., cutting off the straight-moving car), the left-turning driver could be fully or partially at fault.

### Next Steps:
- Review any available evidence (e.g., dashcam, witnesses, or police report) to clarify the sequence of events.
- Check state-specific traffic laws (e.g., California Vehicle Code 21801 or equivalent) for precise rules on left turns and four-way stops.
- Consult a legal professional for advice tailored to the incident.

If you provide the state or additional details (e.g., did both cars stop fully, or was the intersection clear when the left turn began?), I can refine the analysis or search for relevant local laws or X posts. Would you like me to do so?

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