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俄对美英德法波乌等战争之Bakhmut之战末，和然后，和中国，和宇宙，和其她
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Re: 俄对美英德法波乌等战争之Bakhmut之战末，和然后，和中国，和宇宙，和其她
My thoughts on Prigozhin's statement:
#1. Wagner will not go anywhere without orders from the General Staff.
#2. It's completely plausible that Wagner does need to refit after months of fighting.
#3. Prigozhin is not a military commander. He's a successful entrepreneur
#4. Prigozhin's claims of an ammo shortage are false. The MoD has put out detailed lists of the munitions it sends Wagner every month. 100s of 1000s of shells for all calibers. Millions of small arms munitions. They're as well equipped as any Army or Marine unit.
#5. Prigozhin is wildly exaggerating Wagner's actions during Kharkov. He claims it was Wagner that stopped the AFU advance at Svatovo-Kremennaya. This is false. While Wagner units did assist and fought bravely most of the fighting was done by the 2nd Corps (LPR Militia)
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And the 20th Combined Arms Army of the Russian Armed Forces. His characterization of MoD troops running also insults the 2k men of the LPR Militia and RU Army who held Krasny Liman against a force of at least 10k for nearly a month buying time to set up defenses.
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#6. His claims that Wagner is running out of munitions don't pass the logic test. Wagner would not be able to advance as they have against a numerically superior force without massive artillery bombardments which happen every day and have allowed Wagner to continue advancing.
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#7. Most of Wagner's artillery support comes not from Wagner units but Russian Army units. To believe Prigozhin's claims is to believe that the MoD is deliberately not sending munitions to its own forces.
#8. Prigozhin's claims that Russian forces aren't protecting his flanks is also demonstrably false since we know full well from reports that the VDV (elite forces) and the LPR and DPR Corps (battle hardened) and even regular motor rifle units are currently guarding the flanks.
#9. I believe Kadyrov's statement from this morning is far more helpful than Prigozhin's. Kadyrov acknowledges sometimes communication between the MoD and non-regular Army forces can be hard. But he also makes clear that any issues have always been dealt with promptly.
He makes clear that Chechen forces always got what they needed from the MoD and that occurred by speaking to the MoD through official channels not by making dramatic public statements.
In conclusion this is nothing more than drama that I expect will be cleared up in a few days.
#1. Wagner will not go anywhere without orders from the General Staff.
#2. It's completely plausible that Wagner does need to refit after months of fighting.
#3. Prigozhin is not a military commander. He's a successful entrepreneur
#4. Prigozhin's claims of an ammo shortage are false. The MoD has put out detailed lists of the munitions it sends Wagner every month. 100s of 1000s of shells for all calibers. Millions of small arms munitions. They're as well equipped as any Army or Marine unit.
#5. Prigozhin is wildly exaggerating Wagner's actions during Kharkov. He claims it was Wagner that stopped the AFU advance at Svatovo-Kremennaya. This is false. While Wagner units did assist and fought bravely most of the fighting was done by the 2nd Corps (LPR Militia)
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And the 20th Combined Arms Army of the Russian Armed Forces. His characterization of MoD troops running also insults the 2k men of the LPR Militia and RU Army who held Krasny Liman against a force of at least 10k for nearly a month buying time to set up defenses.
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#6. His claims that Wagner is running out of munitions don't pass the logic test. Wagner would not be able to advance as they have against a numerically superior force without massive artillery bombardments which happen every day and have allowed Wagner to continue advancing.
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#7. Most of Wagner's artillery support comes not from Wagner units but Russian Army units. To believe Prigozhin's claims is to believe that the MoD is deliberately not sending munitions to its own forces.
#8. Prigozhin's claims that Russian forces aren't protecting his flanks is also demonstrably false since we know full well from reports that the VDV (elite forces) and the LPR and DPR Corps (battle hardened) and even regular motor rifle units are currently guarding the flanks.
#9. I believe Kadyrov's statement from this morning is far more helpful than Prigozhin's. Kadyrov acknowledges sometimes communication between the MoD and non-regular Army forces can be hard. But he also makes clear that any issues have always been dealt with promptly.
He makes clear that Chechen forces always got what they needed from the MoD and that occurred by speaking to the MoD through official channels not by making dramatic public statements.
In conclusion this is nothing more than drama that I expect will be cleared up in a few days.
Re: 俄对美英德法波乌等战争之Bakhmut之战末，和然后，和中国，和宇宙，和其她
05,05,23 Artyomovsk - Center
Colonel-General Mizintsev listens to a report from the military command of PMC Wagner on the situation in Artyomovsk and reconnoiters the area.
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Colonel-General Mizintsev listens to a report from the military command of PMC Wagner on the situation in Artyomovsk and reconnoiters the area.
48.587704, 38.004349
Re: 俄对美英德法波乌等战争之Bakhmut之战末，和然后，和中国，和宇宙，和其她
it must have been destroyed by russians, but not, as claimed by someone, by ukrainians
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05,05,23 Hours Yar - Canal Seversky Donets-Donbass
The destroyed bridge across the Seversky Donets-Donbass canal on the Chasov Yar - Artemovsk highway in the town of Chasov Yar.
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05,05,23 Hours Yar - Canal Seversky Donets-Donbass
The destroyed bridge across the Seversky Donets-Donbass canal on the Chasov Yar - Artemovsk highway in the town of Chasov Yar.
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Re: 俄对美英德法波乌等战争之Bakhmut之战末，和然后，和中国，和宇宙，和其她
APU shelling Yasinovataya. There is a hit in the roof of a multi-storey building.
05,05,23 Artyomovsk - Cherema.
Military commissar Murat Gadziev films the courtyard of the medical college and points out that the multi-storey buildings overlooking Tchaikovsky Street are the lines occupied by the PMC Wagner. Characteristically, the shooting is carried out from a complex of multi-storey buildings located in close proximity to the military equipment storage base.
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05,05,23 Artyomovsk - Cherema.
Military commissar Murat Gadziev films the courtyard of the medical college and points out that the multi-storey buildings overlooking Tchaikovsky Street are the lines occupied by the PMC Wagner. Characteristically, the shooting is carried out from a complex of multi-storey buildings located in close proximity to the military equipment storage base.
48.590760, 37.974534
Re: 俄对美英德法波乌等战争之Bakhmut之战末，和然后，和中国，和宇宙，和其她
i agree
manpower: the russian side in that area was outnumbered by a ratio of around 3-8, or around 5.
an elite volunteer dpr battalion was fighting to the northwest liman in the last few days, was among the last troops pulling out
chechen special forces were also there
paratroopers were the main forces to stabilizing the situation in the end (most of the paratroopers were sent there, about 3 out of 5 such units, most of them are still in svatove area)
russia had made a huge mistake by not doing a mobilization at least 5 months earlier (before too many professional soldiers' contracts expired and then returned home)
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manpower: the russian side in that area was outnumbered by a ratio of around 3-8, or around 5.
an elite volunteer dpr battalion was fighting to the northwest liman in the last few days, was among the last troops pulling out
chechen special forces were also there
paratroopers were the main forces to stabilizing the situation in the end (most of the paratroopers were sent there, about 3 out of 5 such units, most of them are still in svatove area)
russia had made a huge mistake by not doing a mobilization at least 5 months earlier (before too many professional soldiers' contracts expired and then returned home)
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