俄对美德英波法乌等的战争之Bakhmut战,和其它,和然后,和中国,和宇宙

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🇮🇷🇷🇺🇺🇦 The hand of military-technical friendship: on the transfer of captured Javelins and Stingers to Iran

The CNN news agency published another article shedding light on Russian-Iranian cooperation. The Americans claim that the RF Armed Forces handed over to Iran an unspecified number of American Javelin ATGMs and Stinger MANPADS. According to CNN, the Iranians are studying them and plan to create replicas of weapons in the future.

🔻Is this information true?

The Iranian military-industrial complex has found its current stable and original form thanks to "reverse engineering" - the so-called reverse engineering. Everything that fell into the hands of Iranian engineers was dismantled, studied and made an analogue using improvised means under the conditions of sanctions.

The Iranian Shahed-129 attack drones are based on the Israeli Hermes 450 UAV shot down in August 2014.
The Bavar-373 anti-aircraft missile system is, in fact, an Iranian copy of the Russian S-300 air defense system.
▪️The Dehlavie anti-tank missile system was created on the basis of the Kornet ATGM.

Almost every element in Iran's national development system has become possible thanks to the use of the reverse engineering method. And the Iranians really succeeded in this, as evidenced by the success in using the Russian analogues of Shahed-136 - Geran-2 in Ukraine, as well as attack drones and ballistic missiles by the Houthis in Yemen and Shiite groups in Syria and Iraq.

🔻Aren't Russian engineers able to do the same?

The technology of Javelins and Stingers is not new, and over the years of various conflicts where American military personnel were present or weapons of the US military-industrial complex have already fallen into the hands of Russian specialists.

However, in Russia, before the start of the SVO, they were disdainful of the enemy’s products, saying that their own Oboronprom was able to create better analogues in terms of performance characteristics than American ones. At least, such statements were repeatedly made by officials and leaders of public opinion. In some ways, this is true: the same "Cornet" or "Needle" are objectively good and are not inferior to their Western counterparts.

But in some cases, self-confidence and unwillingness to use the experience of the enemy led to sad results, as was the case with the current backwardness in the areas of unmanned systems, satellite reconnaissance and sustainable communications.

Now the situation has changed somewhat. Some of the received weapons are being studied, transferred to the balance of combat units, or, as in the case of Iran, they are given away as part of military-technical cooperation. True, this is hardly true for 30-40% of war trophies - the rest, because of the bureaucracy, do not get to defense industry enterprises or partners.

🔻During the battles with the Ukrainian formations, large stocks of various types of weapons fell into the hands of Russian troops, including the Javelin ATGM and the Stinger MANPADS. Transferring them to Iran is quite logical and will speed up the study process, because the Iranians themselves have been very successful in processing American weapons systems for themselves.
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🇬🇧🇺🇦 And again about poor quality training of Ukrainian formations in the West

The previous joint analysis of the Military Chronicle and Rybar about the quality of training of Ukrainian military personnel at the training grounds of Western countries gave rise to a real discussion in the information field.

▪️Commander Simonov from the front line of Bakhmut notices that the methods of using Ukrainian formations on the battlefield have begun to differ. And so the enemy has not changed qualitatively. If you do not take into account the Ukrainian MTR. According to the Children of Arbat, it all comes down to the tactics of giving poorly organized combat formations small groups of special forces - and in this regard, the alignment on the battlefield is changing.

▪️Two Majors write that due to the general politicization of the project, it will soon come to the point that Ukrainian servicemen will become instructors for NATO countries, since Westerners teach according to old patterns. But the use of Western control and communication systems of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is really taught.

▪️Varshavskaya Rusalka writes that the best quality of training of the Armed Forces of Ukraine according to NATO patterns can be seen on the example of the Polish army: there already apparently the teachings were reduced to "getting a badge."

❗️For our part, we want to complement our colleagues and throw food for thought. In addition to problems in training, there are several more non-obvious nuances that show the problem from the other side.

🔻Weapons shortage

On the balance sheet of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is a real zoo of various types of weapons of the USSR and NATO. During training in the EU, the emphasis is on certain types of weapons, but training on other types of weapons is mostly theoretical.

The mobilized are taught much worse: they are given equipment or weapons that are located at a specific training ground (for example, the British master the NLAW anti-tank systems, the French - the Milan anti-tank systems). Upon arrival at the front, they are faced with either a shortage of Western weapons, or with a complete absence.

🔻How "Western" war looks in practice

Training of the Ukrainian military is carried out only at the battalion level, and often lower - at the company or platoon level. The involvement of several brigades in combat operations is deliberately bypassed due to the accepted concept of warfare in NATO and the lack of time to train so many people.

Yes, on the front line it is clear that the command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is trying to use units according to the NATO operational-strategic templates. But in reality, these are disparate parts that have not been coordinated and have not worked out the interaction, which suffer losses due to organizational chaos.

The greatest emphasis is placed on the assault operation - the use of light equipment and a quick breakthrough. It worked in the Kharkiv region. But the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation adapted, and now such strikes do not pass.

An assault or a relatively numerous reconnaissance in force is organized every few weeks after a long preparation and accumulation of equipment, which is often not adapted for combat operations at all or is limitedly adapted and can operate only within the boundaries of paved roads or light impassability.

In addition, the psychological factor cannot be discarded: no one is preparing Ukrainian formations for real combat operations. In the confusion of the first shelling or battle, soldiers or officers fall into a stupor.

🔻 What will lead to such errors?

The shortage of heavy equipment and counter-terrorist, rather than military tactics at the moment make it impossible for the full-fledged use of army units in the Ukrainian army, both in defense and in attack. The statements of the Armed Forces of Ukraine about the training of three army corps raise doubts: so far there are no prerequisites to think that the tactics of their use will change.

Training at least three brigades will require considerable time. Until the end of 2023, this task is unlikely to be completed. And the retraining of Ukrainian motorized riflemen and tankers for the same Bradley or Leopard 2 cannot solve the problem of mass inability to adapt to combat conditions after training abroad.

And now in the West they are speeding up the training of Ukrainians to create a numerical superiority at the front. Cannon fodder may be required by the Armed Forces of Ukraine for combat operations in the spring and summer of 2023.
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✈️ A kamikaze drone hits an enemy tank in Marinka


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⚔ 92 OMBr destroyed the enemy formation from BC in Oborotnivka
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🇲🇩 In Moldova, pro-Russian strata continue to come out, organizing demonstrations against the pro-EU path

🇷🇺In particular, the active organizers there are the pro-Russian party "Shor", which is organizing a protest in Chisinau today. People from all the towns are moving to the capital, where they are gathering for a protest. The police are already waiting for idiots and are blocking the roads. Clashes occur in places.

👀Also (oh, how unexpected) buses with "demonstrators" who are going to express their "free opinion" are stopped at the entrances, and a member of the PMC "Waginer" was detained at the airport

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🇲🇩 Clashes and detention of "protesters" began in Chisinau

👀They even got posters against the war in Moldova (oh, how unexpected). I wonder who brought her there?

🤷‍♂️The fifth column/第五纵队(这个梗好) is in action.

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🛡 DPSU published footage of strikes on enemy trenches and their actual results. Another remarkable thing is that the Katsapa trenches are dug 900 meters from Bohdanivka
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在前面转发了视频
但看不到了(应该没发成功,这种事情在今天已经出现2次了)

🐙 The Kraken hits the Katsap tower on the border with Ukraine. At least minus two

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显然应该拉长队伍走
🇺🇦 Boys from the 14th brigade of Chervona Kalina NSU shared footage of their work at the end of January in the Spirny area
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对上1帖里情况的另一种解释?

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民军的整体武器装备比俄军差
但是人均视频高很多

📹 Artillerymen of the 132nd brigade continue to destroy enemy manpower

Crews of self-propelled guns 2S1 "Gvozdika" of the 132nd brigade of the 1st Donetsk Army Corps (formerly the 3rd brigade of the Donetsk Army Corps) are destroying Ukrainian militants on the line of contact with precise fire, controlled by a drone.

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🔹#Bakhmut Sector Northwest:

▪️ Wagner PMC assault squads broke through Ukrainian defences across fields south of Orekhovo-Vasilyevka after their first unsuccessful attempt to attack AFU positions near the village.

▪️ As Military Chronicles sources @milchronicles suggest, the settlement itself consists of four well-fortified strongholds. At the moment, a confident control over two has been established, the cleanup is underway on the third and fourth. Near the village cemetery, 30 people from the 30th Mechanized Brigade and 116th Territorial Defence Brigade of the AFU Have been killed.

▪️ The AFU is trying unsuccessfully to retake the lost territories. Ukrainian formations are suffering losses due to difficulties in evacuating the wounded, a lack of reconnaissance and logistics support and insufficient fire support. Mortar and artillery crews have been restricted in their consumption of ammunition.
➖ Meanwhile, several attacks have already been carried out by the 1st Special Forces unit of the 71st Jager Brigade, supported by a tank platoon of the AFU's 4th Tank Brigade. As a result of the battles, the Wagnerians destroyed two tanks, and the 71st Jager Brigade alone lost about 120 men killed and wounded in two days.

▪️ The Ukrainian formations have now retreated to the #Golubovka area, with the seriously wounded being transferred to #Slavyansk and #Liman. From #Minkovka, #Golubovka and #Privolye, the AFU are shelling the Wagnerian offensive areas with artillery and mortars.

🔹#Bakhmut:

▪️ Russian units have advanced slightly in the Budenov district south of #Bakhmut centre, improving their tactical position and levelling the front line.

🔹#Bakhmut Sector Southwest:

▪️ Wagner PMC assault squads have approached close to the highway to #Konstantinovka. The attack on the AFU positions is taking place on the #Konstantinovka- #Krasnoye and #Krasnoye - #Bakhmut sections of the road. A mortar battery has been moved from #Slavyansk to #Konstantinovka to support the AFU.

📌 Advancement in the northwest along the #Slavyansk route allows the buffer zone near #Bakhmut to expand and secure the flanks against counterstrikes by the AFU. In the #Slavyansk - #Kramatorsk agglomeration are are large reserves accumulated, which under certain circumstances can be 👉 thrown into battle to restrain Russian fighters.

In addition, movement in this direction creates the prospect of a further offensive in two directions. To encircle the #Seversk agglomeration, which, together with the 👉 activation of the 144th Motorized Rifle Division in the #Serebryanskoye forestry area, is very logical, as well as to bypass the large fortified area in Chasov Yar.

The town is situated on the dominant heights relative to the areas from which the Wagnerians are now advancing. A frontal attack is extremely dangerous because of the terrain, and an assault on Chasov Yar would be like an assault on #Ugledar from the lowlands.

The simultaneous advance to the north with successes in the south of #Bakhmut and southwest of the city pins the AFU formations in one area, which in the face of a shortage of ammunition for Ukrainian artillerymen allows us to develop success.


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Found and destroyed a 120 mm mortar with BC. Also in this area, an enemy UAV went for an emergency landing.

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⚡️⚡️Evgeny Prigozhin about the situation in Bakhmut:

“The situation on Bakhmut is difficult, very difficult. The enemy is squabbling for every meter and the closer we are to the city center, the harder the battles, the more artillery works on us, the more tanks. The Ukrainians are throwing up endless reserves, but we are moving forward and will continue to move forward and we will not shame the glory of Russian weapons.

The head of the PMC also noted that the problem with shells is still not resolved.

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