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wintermelon 写了： 2023年 4月 10日 17:30 所以，如果不控枪的话，要么人人配枪。

要么，所有公共场所，室内室外只要是人多的地方，装带枪智能摄像头，或者机器人警察，
发现有人拔枪，立即击毙，这个现在看来越来越可行了。

禁枪区分两种，学校商场普通人办公楼那种立个牌子就完事的往好了说纯属扯淡，往坏了说就是邪恶。而政府大楼机场那种有武装警卫和探测器的禁枪区，我并不反对。

wintermelon 写了： 2023年 4月 10日 17:30 所以，如果不控枪的话，要么人人配枪。

要么，所有公共场所，室内室外只要是人多的地方，装带枪智能摄像头，或者机器人警察，
发现有人拔枪，立即击毙，这个现在看来越来越可行了。

机器人警察，新加坡几年前就上路了

反抢这个议题和左派所有议题一样，除了喷就是喷，比如说禁枪，到底怎么禁，没有任何措施建议，就是一味得狂喊两个字gun control，比如说lgbtq明显神经病比例巨高，能不能先坝这群蠢货得先禁了，让我们看看效果？

jhe123 写了： 2023年 4月 10日 17:34 禁枪区分两种，学校商场普通人办公楼那种立个牌子就完事的往好了说纯属扯淡，往坏了说就是邪恶。而政府大楼机场那种有武装警卫和探测器的禁枪区，我并不反对。

傻逼，怎么禁枪提案早有无数个了，狗屁党连不许疯子拿重攻击性武器都不让通过，没救了。
即使像中国那样禁枪不现实，起码应该背景调查严一点，长攻击性武器应该禁掉吧。允许合法申请各种手枪和散弹枪等防御武器。这个跟拥枪派的人人持枪更安全不矛盾。谁tmd 上班逛街出门都扛一个机枪，哪个maga党徒能做到？妈的机枪就是给mass shooting 用的

笑尿了，请问最近这几位那个是疯子？你敢说lgbtq是疯子？你信不信antifa先把你突突了

buyan 写了： 2023年 4月 10日 18:42 傻逼，怎么禁枪提案早有无数个了，狗屁党连不许疯子拿重攻击性武器都不让通过，没救了。
即使像中国那样禁枪不现实，起码应该背景调查严一点，长攻击性武器应该禁掉吧。允许合法申请各种手枪和散弹枪等防御武器。这个跟拥枪派的人人持枪更安全不矛盾。谁tmd 上班逛街出门都扛一个机枪，哪个maga党徒能做到？妈的机枪就是给mass shooting 用的

iMaJia 写了： 2023年 4月 10日 13:26 每次交通事都是在有交通規則的地方。取消交通法，挽救无辜生命！

偷换概念。枪击是on purpose, 交通事故也是on purpose?

我说句不好听的话

等到枪口一致对外的时候，像我们这种坐个地铁都要查包的高级养宠基地就惨了

所以得让股市倒，让那些贪婪的人自己去买单，而不是让更多无辜的人丧命

Only in your imagination.
CDC data indicates that the 16 states with the highest gun ownership (>50%) had 84% higher homicide rates than the 8 states with the lowest gun ownership (<30%), according to the latest available data.
Using guns for self-defense is very ineffective. The perpetrators are always prepared and bring their guns, while the victims are not able to hold theirs guns in defense mode all the time.

jhe123 写了： 2023年 4月 10日 13:08 允许老师自己决定是否带枪就行了。没了傻逼禁枪区的牌子，杀人犯就不知道自己进去后会不会先被击毙，就足够吓退一些凶手了。

Gunman livestreamed mass shooting at Louisville bank that left 5 dead and 8 injured, police say

又死一个

fortyNiner 写了： 2023年 4月 10日 22:09 Only in your imagination.
CDC data indicates that the 16 states with the highest gun ownership (>50%) had 84% higher homicide rates than the 8 states with the lowest gun ownership (<30%), according to the latest available data.
Using guns for self-defense is very ineffective. The perpetrators are always prepared and bring their guns, while the victims are not able to hold theirs guns in defense mode all the time.

你一个不敢用枪带枪的人，却在这里谈如何用枪自卫。呵呵，说你不懂装懂肯定没冤枉你。

原来你肉身在石洞肯德基啊
吼吼

StillWandering 写了： 2023年 4月 10日 11:56 这次警察冲进去了
又是assault rifle

https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/louisv ... index.html

rihai 写了： 2023年 4月 10日 22:32 原来你肉身在石洞肯德基啊
吼吼

为啥不是吨吨吨

StillWandering 写了： 2023年 4月 10日 22:50 为啥不是吨吨吨

还让人家蹲呢，估计蹲出痔疮来了。

廊坊留学中介第一次知道美国还有一个州叫肯塔基？恭喜你对美国的了解上了2哥台阶

rihai 写了： 2023年 4月 10日 22:32 原来你肉身在石洞肯德基啊
吼吼

https://www.foxnews.com/video/6324586189112

Police hold briefing to release bodycam footage in Louisville bank shooting

>>说你不懂装懂肯定没冤枉你。
That applies to you exactly.
All you have is imagination. Data shows...
So how are you going to argue against the data?
1. No relationship? Just coincidences? Again and again? Year after year?
2. Maybe those states with higher gun ownership have more criminals living there, as you once guessed?

>>你一个不敢用枪带枪的人，却在这里谈如何用枪自卫。
I am not talking HOW you can use your gun for defense. For that, you can always take a class. Salvador Ramos was pretty good at shooting, does that make you proud. I was just showing you and others that there have been more homicides per capita (125% more, 225% as much--Correction, 84% more) in states with highest gun ownership than states with lowest gun ownership.
You can argue as much as you like how you are going to use your gun for defense, but that's mainly only in your imagination. In reality, we have seen the opposite, again and again, year after year. Guns have been used to kill innocent people many times more often than they have been used to save lives.

jhe123 写了： 2023年 4月 10日 22:24 你一个不敢用枪带枪的人，却在这里谈如何用枪自卫。呵呵，说你不懂装懂肯定没冤枉你。

fortyNiner 写了： 2023年 4月 11日 21:08 >>说你不懂装懂肯定没冤枉你。
That applies to you exactly.
All you have is imagination. Data shows...
So how are you going to argue against the data?
1. No relationship? Just coincidences? Again and again? Year after year?
2. Maybe those states with higher gun ownership have more criminals living there, as you once guessed?

>>你一个不敢用枪带枪的人，却在这里谈如何用枪自卫。
I am not talking HOW you can use your gun for defense. For that, you can always take a class. Salvador Ramos was pretty good at shooting, does that make you proud. I was just showing you and others that there have been more homicides per capita (125% more, 225% as much) in states with highest gun ownership than states with lowest gun ownership.
You can argue as much as you like how you are going to use your gun for defense, but that's mainly only in your imagination. In reality, we have seen the opposite, again and again, year after year. Guns have been used to kill innocent people many times more often than they have been used to save lives.

公然撒谎就没意思了。就你上次贴的那个谋杀率和拥枪率的数据显示，同样拥枪率的州之间的谋杀率可以差一两倍，拥枪率极高的州里有几个谋杀率低于拥枪率低的几个州。任何一个有正常思维并且能够做到客观分析的人，只能得出拥枪率和谋杀率没有关系的结论。

你很钦佩那个傻逼枪手吗？你已经不止一次的提到他的名字了，看来是仰慕的很啊。一般人估计没人会去记这些畜生的名字吧。

现在你说你不是在谈如何用枪自卫，那上贴里你扯啥Using guns for self-defense is very ineffective。前后自相矛盾很好玩儿吗？

There are always some states with higher crime rates and some with lower, it is the average that speaks. Just like even in a shithole city, there are always some law-abiding citizens, but you cannot use that to argue that this city is not a shithole. It is the average crime rate in the city, not just a few good guys, that makes the city a shithole. You cannot find a good neighborhood in Oakland, like the Oakland hills, and use it as an example to argue that Oakland is a very safe city. You look at the overall crime rates to say if it is safe. Similarly, the average much-higher homicide rates, much higher violent crime rates, and much higher property rates of the states with highest gun ownership of many years indicate the undeniable correlation between guns and crime rates.
You sounded proud of owning guns, that's why I brought up Salvador Ramos. So are you proud simply because you own guns and I don't? Something that even Ramos could own working in Denny's(?) can make you proud?
I am not talking about how to use gun for self defense, I simply points out, with reliable data from CDC, that using guns for self-defense is very ineffective. How was I not consistent? Data indicates that, that's all. I did not make up the data, and you ARE NOT able to deny it.

jhe123 写了： 2023年 4月 11日 22:42 公然撒谎就没意思了。就你上次贴的那个谋杀率和拥枪率的数据显示，同样拥枪率的州之间的谋杀率可以差一两倍，拥枪率极高的州里有几个谋杀率低于拥枪率低的几个州。任何一个有正常思维并且能够做到客观分析的人，只能得出拥枪率和谋杀率没有关系的结论。

你很钦佩那个傻逼枪手吗？你已经不止一次的提到他的名字了，看来是仰慕的很啊。一般人估计没人会去记这些畜生的名字吧。

现在你说你不是在谈如何用枪自卫，那上贴里你扯啥Using guns for self-defense is very ineffective。前后自相矛盾很好玩儿吗？

jhe123 写了： 2023年 4月 10日 13:03 又是禁枪区。绝大部分的公共场合枪击案发生在禁枪区。取消禁枪区，挽救无辜生命！

是啊，机场飞机上都该让好人持枪

Maybe criminals, especially potential hijackers, will be or have been deterred because some good flyers might carry guns. /s

mmking 写了： 2023年 4月 12日 01:24 是啊，机场飞机上都该让好人持枪