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wi2la 写了： 2023年 9月 27日 12:15 就算真有降价也是消费降级，人民穷了，但并不是车子产量增加，而且那并不是好事。

人民穷了,inflation才能控制住，然后重新再来。

那个型号太贵了你不能用它来衡量市场

ccmath 写了： 2023年 9月 27日 11:44 上周在奔驰 dealer看到一堆电车EQS, inventory 可能超过一年了

有点过去政治课本上经济危机的味道了

EQS质次价高，没有代表性。
什么时候一堆中等价位的车，比如RAV4停满dealer lot卖不出去，经济危机大概是真的来了

lsheng 写了： 2023年 9月 26日 23:49 18年以后吧。我的03和18年凯美瑞几乎一样的价格，功能还增加了，多了ABS和车态稳定控制。

是08年，08年好多新车价腰斩

ccmath 写了： 2023年 9月 27日 11:32 最近的cox automotive 数据，我弟屁民有一半只能负担起400刀的车贷。

现在二手车贷款利率13%起，唯一能让屁民付得起贷款的方法，就是延长还贷时间。至少十年八年

除了老一代dfbb, 那个车能撑这么久？

可以把债给roll over到下一辆车的贷款上，美国好多p民这么干

车子要是在贷款还清之前挂了，那屁民就换一辆车，永远要还车贷。房子大家买不起了，二手车在我弟已经变成了割韭菜的最好方法。

Carvana看起来是个卖车的，但是实际上是用车作为壳子卖贷款的。他家主要的收入是package car loans into securities. 本质上和08年次贷危机那个时候搞房贷的公司差不多。

Online car-sales giant Carvana has seen its stock value jump 1,000% since the middle of the pandemic, fueled by high used car prices, low interest rates and its socially distanced business transactions. After consumers click buy, the company delivers the car to their doorstep.

But the company is also making money by selling its car loans upfront and immediately booking the revenue, rather than keeping the debt on its books and servicing the loans, as other car sellers do.

The financing technique is generating 36% of the company’s revenue, The Wall Street Journal reported.

In the first half of this year, the company sold $3.1 billion in loans, double its volume during the same period last year, helping to drive company value to $63 billion, making it more valuable than Ford.

The financial mechanism isn’t all positive. Although it’s making money because investors are willing to buy, at a premium, the company’s loans, after they’re packaged into bonds, that could change if the market experiences a downturn. Should that happen, the company could be forced to sell the loans either at par or a discount, leading to a big drop in revenue.

Even if the market stays strong, the Journal reported, the company is giving up future profit in exchange for the upfront revenue. Other car sellers are positioned to generate higher lifetime revenue from their loans by keeping the debt on their books, after securitization, by retaining the servicing business.

In addition, Carvana’s upfront sales can result in big up-and-down swings, since the revenue stream moves in tandem with the frequency at which its loans are securitized.

victor 写了： 2023年 9月 27日 15:18 可以把债给roll over到下一辆车的贷款上，美国好多p民这么干

以后韭菜买不起二手车怎么割

ccmath 写了： 2023年 9月 27日 15:33 车子要是在贷款还清之前挂了，那屁民就换一辆车，永远要还车贷。房子大家买不起了，二手车在我弟已经变成了割韭菜的最好方法。

Carvana看起来是个卖车的，但是实际上是用车作为壳子卖贷款的。他家主要的收入是package car loans into securities. 本质上和08年次贷危机那个时候搞房贷的公司差不多。

Online car-sales giant Carvana has seen its stock value jump 1,000% since the middle of the pandemic, fueled by high used car prices, low interest rates and its socially distanced business transactions. After consumers click buy, the company delivers the car to their doorstep.

But the company is also making money by selling its car loans upfront and immediately booking the revenue, rather than keeping the debt on its books and servicing the loans, as other car sellers do.

The financing technique is generating 36% of the company’s revenue, The Wall Street Journal reported.

In the first half of this year, the company sold $3.1 billion in loans, double its volume during the same period last year, helping to drive company value to $63 billion, making it more valuable than Ford.

The financial mechanism isn’t all positive. Although it’s making money because investors are willing to buy, at a premium, the company’s loans, after they’re packaged into bonds, that could change if the market experiences a downturn. Should that happen, the company could be forced to sell the loans either at par or a discount, leading to a big drop in revenue.

Even if the market stays strong, the Journal reported, the company is giving up future profit in exchange for the upfront revenue. Other car sellers are positioned to generate higher lifetime revenue from their loans by keeping the debt on their books, after securitization, by retaining the servicing business.

In addition, Carvana’s upfront sales can result in big up-and-down swings, since the revenue stream moves in tandem with the frequency at which its loans are securitized.

总会有人卖subprime car loans. 不要首付，96 months term, 20% interest, 割一茬算一茬。

victor 写了： 2023年 9月 27日 16:41 以后韭菜买不起二手车怎么割

ccmath 写了： 2023年 9月 27日 16:43 总会有人卖subprime car loans. 不要首付，96 months term, 20% interest, 割一茬算一茬。

太可怕了

这是车版还是

股海弄潮？

wolf_north_1234 写了： 2023年 9月 28日 13:46 这是车版还是

股海弄潮？

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