NYU解雇有机化学教授 因为他的课太难

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我也不知道这个教授是不是在难为学生。但是八十多的老头， 能有多大活力去每次整新题？ 叔表示怀疑。
怕是他出题虽然大多都是炒过去的冷饭，以前的学生能行， 但现在的学生就是学不下去。

靠 你上没上过大学?
大学考试要点就是找以前考的卷子 多半就是那些题来回出。

有的老师可不是， 每次都自己出新题， 别处根本找不到的。

题出难了， 还不curve， 最后分都低。
中国学生分也低

[chace]

听化学系的人说， 物理化学难的是理解

物理化学计算不是最难的，挺简单的，只是到了量子化学，其实就是量子物理，太难理解了。

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the 84-year-old professor said of the college kids’ pandemic performance. “We now see single digit scores and even zeros.”

“They weren’t coming to class, that’s for sure, because I can count the house,” Jones added, defending himself and saying the kids simply were not studying hard enough. “They weren’t watching the videos, and they weren’t able to answer the questions.”

这种80多老头没研究生带， 老婆估计也死了
天天寂寞的无聊 就是出难题整学生， 让学生来问题 这样才有人说话， 显出自己牛逼。。。
懂了吗??

[boblan]

对中国学生不难。 难倒的是美国学生

错，有机学得最好的我见到的都是欧洲和部分美国同学。

[chace]

我是说中国学生可没有去找学校闹的。
难倒的， 去学校闹得是美国学生。

错，有机学得最好的我见到的都是欧洲和部分美国同学。

[starbox]

错，有机学得最好的我见到的都是欧洲和部分美国同学。

欢迎波波姐！

[flyingbeast]

我查，文化大革命啦！这84岁的老教授就是反革命学究
这被fired是不是连退休金都没了？

大学的未来

A New York University professor has been fired after a group of students signed a petition against him suggesting his course was too difficult.
Maitland Jones Jr., 84, had 82 of his 350 organic chemistry students sign the petition citing Jones' teaching methods and course outline as reasons for their poor grades.
'We are very concerned about our scores, and find that they are not an accurate reflection of the time and effort put into this class,' the petition said, according to a New York Times report.
'We urge you to realize that a class with such a high percentage of withdrawals and low grades has failed to make students' learning and well-being a priority and reflects poorly on the chemistry department as well as the institution as a whole.'

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NYU可不是野鸡大学， 这么多学生起义多半是这个老师有问题。
以前系里有个阿三AP. 课变态得难。 最后也被系里开了。
学生得努力在考试中得不到回报， 说明教授出题难度有问题。 至少体现出教授授课能力不足。

教书教到84了才被发现课程太难，隐藏的太深了，会不会是间谍？

[chace]

你非要那么理解是你的问题。
自己看看NYT的读者是怎么想的？ 可有一封登出来的信站在学生和NYU一边的？
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/04/opin ... essor.html


The article said those who fail organic chemistry might not be admitted to medical school. That’s good news. If I were hospitalized with a possibly fatal illness, would my doctor decide that finding a correct diagnosis was just too hard?

Claudia Miriam Reed
McMinnville, Ore.

To the Editor:

Years from now, if I notice an undergraduate degree from N.Y.U. in a future doctor’s office, I’m walking out.

Tom Cutrofello
Queens

好 如你所愿
美国学生完蛋了
美国完蛋了
你高兴就好

[chace]

别跟我说。 跟NYT的编辑和那些写信的读者， 包括associate professor of psychiatry and medical education at the Icahn School of Medicine at Mount Sinai 说去。

你如果觉得医学生能学会有机化学
那你对医学和有机化学都屁都不懂。

[弃婴千枝]

主要是这位伟大的叫兽断了一大堆笨蛋想当医生发财的财路

也顺便断了nyu的财路

你妈，断人财路在美帝堪比杀人

人当然要搞死你了

[datada]

NYU这下捅了马蜂窝。如果教授找律师告的话，很可能赢。

[ZMZM]

为啥没人看原文，这位是普林斯顿的退休教授，去NYU做contractor。

[abcd]

主要是这位伟大的叫兽断了一大堆笨蛋想当医生发财的财路

也顺便断了nyu的财路

你妈，断人财路在美帝堪比杀人

人当然要搞死你了

确实是这么回事。

[snowinwind]

本来就不是tenured，老头是从普林斯顿退休，然后到NYU当个讲师挣钱的。这种讲师很多本来就是合同一年一签的。学校没有开除，只是合同不再续了。
不过同意美国学生水平太差，这两年改网课以后是尤其差，学生不愿意学习，很多学校的学生还不愿意回学校上课。

[Texcat]

不是tenure了，怎么会被解雇

[tootsie]

有机算是化学里第二容易的了，仅次于分析，理解了都不用记。无机结构化学比较难，比较多数学，包括立体几何，群之类的。

[fronte]

老头有点刻舟求剑了，以为现在的米国学生还和50年之前的一样聪明，殊不知，这些小卡拉米的脑子早就被吸大麻和滥交给搞坏了，还按以前的难度教课肯定学生不干。我以前在大学教课的时候，经过一两次课的互动试探，果断调低难度，结果课堂充满欢声笑语，大家都很愉快，岂不美哉，何必较真

[妄议中央]

返聘教授，管他马的，你爱听不听，不让爷上课爷早不想上了

[AQ14]

大学的未来

A New York University professor has been fired after a group of students signed a petition against him suggesting his course was too difficult.
Maitland Jones Jr., 84, had 82 of his 350 organic chemistry students sign the petition citing Jones' teaching methods and course outline as reasons for their poor grades.
'We are very concerned about our scores, and find that they are not an accurate reflection of the time and effort put into this class,' the petition said, according to a New York Times report.
'We urge you to realize that a class with such a high percentage of withdrawals and low grades has failed to make students' learning and well-being a priority and reflects poorly on the chemistry department as well as the institution as a whole.'

上学时有个类似的列子。 有门工程分析3的老师就是教物理的， 普林斯顿博士。 上课黑板从左写道右，而且嘴同时不停， 上他的课记笔记都一点不能分神。考试还好，虽然比别的课低但是没离谱。 就是学期开始选这门课的drop out比列最高， 两星期后基本不到一半留下来。 后来一个本校上来的硕士小弟说他本科物理就是这厮教的， 班级平均成绩E，全军覆没。 结果学生把他告了，学校处罚是扣除他那个学期的教学奖金。 小弟说：I guess not only we hate him, he hates us too:)