为什么中国人最早吃生鱼片,但没有发展出寿司?

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#41 Re: 为什么中国人最早吃生鱼片,但没有发展出寿司?

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Maja101 写了: 2024年 6月 1日 13:59 一直不懂,什么时候生鱼片变得高大上了,日本穷的时候渔民只能吃生的,现在居然文化输出到全世界,也是有两把刷子,
很多傻B女只知道跟潮流,觉得日料高大上,她们可能不知道北美日餐馆>80%是华人开的,用的生鱼都是costco买的,根本不是寿司级的,谁吃谁傻

随便说一下,日本胃癌发病率时候全球排名前三
https://www.thespruceeats.com/choosing- ... it%20first.


Potential Parasites
Parasites are a fact of life when you eat meat. That's one reason why humans decided to start cooking their food thousands of years ago. Heat kills worms. So does frost, but some can survive a home freezer (although not a good box freezer).

For this reason, it is recommended that all seafood you decide to eat raw be previously frozen.2 It is simply safer that way. Yes, fresh is better in most cases, but even professional sushi chefs freeze their salmon first—salmon is unusually susceptible to parasites.2

The critters you need to worry about are cod worms, seal worms, and tapeworms.4

Cod worms are found in cod, haddock, pollock, and hake.5 They are easily visible to the naked eye and are easily removed if you catch them. Good New England fish houses "candle" their fish by putting the fillets on a lightbox to detect the worms. This is why cod is never seen at a sushi bar.

Seal worms are found in salmon, mackerel, Pacific rockfish, jacksmelt, some halibut, and other flounders, including shad on the West Coast.6 These worms are little brown creatures that curl up like a spring. You can miss them if you don't look carefully, but if you are looking—and you should always look with jacksmelt and herring—you can pick them out.

Neither cod nor seal worms will kill you. If you eat one, they will typically pass right through your system and you will never know it. Sometimes they will successfully attach themselves to your stomach, causing nausea and abdominal pain. The parasite will die on its own, but treatment can include endoscopy or surgery.

Tapeworms are far nastier. They live in lots and lots of freshwater fish, to the point that only the foolish person would even think about eating a wild trout or largemouth bass raw. Tapeworms can live inside people and can grow to 20 feet long or more inside you.2
Craig N. Fish tapeworm and sushi. Can Fam Physician. 2012;58(6):654-658.

Ick! Unless it is farmed, skip the walleye sashimi.
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#42 Re: 为什么中国人最早吃生鱼片,但没有发展出寿司?

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这个文章有些信息是错误的,建议在前面加上个警示

深海鱼也不安全,现在基本所有大一点的深海鳕鱼都有寄生虫

然后被 Seal/海豹/海狗 吃掉,进入 Seal, Seal 的粪便再感染小鱼小虾,再感染深海鳕鱼

要解决这个问题,只有灭绝掉 Seal, 或者把 Seal 数量控制在一个非常非常小的范围。

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#43 Re: 为什么中国人最早吃生鱼片,但没有发展出寿司?

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wh 写了: 2024年 6月 1日 00:39 哈哈,印度吃得很烂?只知道咖喱 :D
印度咖喱就是要煮成糊糊么 印度那种卫生条件 又地处热带 不把食物高高温消毒就吃 后果难以想象 当然也可能进化成钢铁肠胃哈哈
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#44 Re: 为什么中国人最早吃生鱼片,但没有发展出寿司?

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中医 是中国人的陋习

生鱼片 是日本人的陋习
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#45 Re: 为什么中国人最早吃生鱼片,但没有发展出寿司?

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外国人吃生牛肉末也有吃坏肚子的。
minquan 写了: 2024年 6月 1日 01:59 我也每次吃完生鱼片都要拉稀。最怕上海人请我吃寿司。
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#46 Re: 为什么中国人最早吃生鱼片,但没有发展出寿司?

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隋唐时候米饭都跟现在没什么区别的吃法,这可是在一千四五百年前啊
生食风险太大,并不是什么好习惯
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#47 Re: 为什么中国人最早吃生鱼片,但没有发展出寿司?

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FoxMe 写了: 2024年 6月 1日 17:03 外国人吃生牛肉末也有吃坏肚子的。
还有疯牛病
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#48 Re: 为什么中国人最早吃生鱼片,但没有发展出寿司?

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mmking 写了: 2024年 6月 1日 06:18 中国人最早画春宫图,为啥是日本人将AV做成国家名片?

一样的道理,日本人原创东西不多,又有工匠精神,对一个东西往死里卷,比较有特点容易被人记住而已。
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#49 Re: 为什么中国人最早吃生鱼片,但没有发展出寿司?

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Savage 写了: 2024年 6月 1日 14:57 https://www.thespruceeats.com/choosing- ... it%20first.


Potential Parasites
Parasites are a fact of life when you eat meat. That's one reason why humans decided to start cooking their food thousands of years ago. Heat kills worms. So does frost, but some can survive a home freezer (although not a good box freezer).

For this reason, it is recommended that all seafood you decide to eat raw be previously frozen.2 It is simply safer that way. Yes, fresh is better in most cases, but even professional sushi chefs freeze their salmon first—salmon is unusually susceptible to parasites.2

The critters you need to worry about are cod worms, seal worms, and tapeworms.4

Cod worms are found in cod, haddock, pollock, and hake.5 They are easily visible to the naked eye and are easily removed if you catch them. Good New England fish houses "candle" their fish by putting the fillets on a lightbox to detect the worms. This is why cod is never seen at a sushi bar.

Seal worms are found in salmon, mackerel, Pacific rockfish, jacksmelt, some halibut, and other flounders, including shad on the West Coast.6 These worms are little brown creatures that curl up like a spring. You can miss them if you don't look carefully, but if you are looking—and you should always look with jacksmelt and herring—you can pick them out.

Neither cod nor seal worms will kill you. If you eat one, they will typically pass right through your system and you will never know it. Sometimes they will successfully attach themselves to your stomach, causing nausea and abdominal pain. The parasite will die on its own, but treatment can include endoscopy or surgery.

Tapeworms are far nastier. They live in lots and lots of freshwater fish, to the point that only the foolish person would even think about eating a wild trout or largemouth bass raw. Tapeworms can live inside people and can grow to 20 feet long or more inside you.2
Craig N. Fish tapeworm and sushi. Can Fam Physician. 2012;58(6):654-658.

Ick! Unless it is farmed, skip the walleye sashimi.
"Tapeworms can live inside people and can grow to 20 feet long or more inside you." Ugh,想起中学生物课学的什么绦虫,也很长很长,在人的肚子里弯弯曲曲……
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