面对死亡:A Beginner's Guide to Dying

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#41 Re: 面对死亡:A Beginner's Guide to Dying

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cng 写了: 2024年 7月 8日 00:21 可能會擔心死的過程。
嗯。也没别的办法,只能顺其自然……
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#42 Re: 面对死亡:A Beginner's Guide to Dying

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laomei9 写了: 2024年 7月 8日 00:34 悲悯本身就是人性吧,和尚的悲悯很Special吗?
和尚的冷酷才是Special的吧,他们能放下尘缘
不容易,包括自己父母的生死。
这个和尚的表情并不冷酷吧。
悲悯在每个人心里有多有少吧,也有没有的。佛家不是讲普渡众生、我不入地狱谁入地狱么,有大悲悯的是至高境界吧。
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#43 Re: 面对死亡:A Beginner's Guide to Dying

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goFan 写了: 2024年 7月 8日 00:35 别的动物也都有记忆。刚看到一个给鲨鱼取下鱼钩的海洋生物学家,鲨鱼带好几个同伴来取鱼钩,28 年来她都没有受到鲨鱼攻击,鲨鱼把她当朋友

看那些带钩的鲨鱼都跑来求医真有意思!这个女的胆子真大。
是很多动物有记忆和感情,不过不如人的记忆和感情复杂丰富精细微妙……
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#44 Re: 面对死亡:A Beginner's Guide to Dying

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ferrygao 写了: 2024年 7月 8日 00:39 研究四维空间的 这算个啥啊
哈哈。可时间维度不能自由位移啊……
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#45 Re: 面对死亡:A Beginner's Guide to Dying

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laomei9 写了: 2024年 7月 8日 00:39 对死亡的理解,经历父母的死亡,就会有深刻的感觉,
别人怎么说也没有感觉,不管是人生导师还是写作大家
goFan 写了: 2024年 7月 8日 00:42 头一回感觉深刻,第二回就习惯了,第三回就麻木了
生身父母一共就俩,哪有第三回……
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#47 Re: 面对死亡:A Beginner's Guide to Dying

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wh 写了: 2024年 7月 8日 04:24 生身父母一共就俩,哪有第三回……
只限于父母吗?本版这不刚有一个例子
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#48 Re: 面对死亡:A Beginner's Guide to Dying

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我就说了,只有自己的亲人死了才有切肤的体会
别人的说教,不管是人生导师还是写作大家都
是狗屎,你也不要期盼别人理解你的悲伤
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#49 Re: 面对死亡:A Beginner's Guide to Dying

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wh 写了: 2024年 7月 7日 15:55 一个得喉癌的英国人写了一本如何面对死亡的书,今年十月出版。他应该看不到自己的书了。
bbc链接里有他接受采访的视频,讲的就是下面这段话:

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/clmykzrdnljo
'I'm as happy as I've been in my life,' says aid worker Simon Boas as he faces death
3 days ago

In September 2023, Simon Boas was diagnosed with throat cancer. Aged just 46, he was told the disease was terminal, and that it would ultimately take his life.

Over the following year, he knitted together his reflections on life into a book - A Beginner's Guide to Dying. The book is set to hit the shelves in October. It will be a posthumous publication.

In what he expects to be one of his final interviews, Simon spoke to Emma Barnett on the Today Programme, offering his reflections on life and death as he moved into hospice care.


My pain is under control and I'm terribly happy - it sounds weird to say, but I'm as happy as I've ever been in my life.

I used to think I'd rather be hit by the proverbial bus, but having a couple of months knowing this is coming has really helped me both do the boring 'death-min', but also get my thoughts and prepare myself, and feel so accepting of what's to come.

It's been such a great bonus, actually.

The book is called A Beginner's Guide to Dying, but really what I'm trying to convey is how enjoying life to the full kind of prepares you for this.

In some ways I was lucky that my life and my career have taken me to quite a lot of places where death is more a part of life than it is for us in the West.

I spent my life as an aid worker - quite a lot with the UN - and I've lived in places where death is something that not just exists in the background, but is imminently possible.

I spent three years running a UN office in the Gaza Strip. I spent a lot of time in Rwanda, Sierra Leone, and I've been working in Ukraine. Seeing people there for whom death is such a part of life - they lose children, they don't know where the next meal is coming from - has really helped me.

I've also been a Samaritan for the past four years. In some cases you are on the line while people end their lives, so I think death has been more a part of my life than for many people.

It does us all good to think about it.

That's not in a gloomy way... by kind of realising it's inevitable and it's a part of life, it actually throws life into perspective and helps you to enjoy it more and prioritise the important things.

My family are about to go through the most difficult thing in their lives. My lovely wife, Aurelie, and my parents... are well surrounded, and I hope that my cheerfulness in the leaving of life might perhaps help them in the next few years...

All our lives are little books - but they're not someone else's complete book. You're a chapter or a page or a footnote in someone else's life and they are going to keep writing beautiful chapters when you are gone.

And those green shoots can grow around grief and put it in perspective. I hope people will think, "I'm glad I read that - Simon's story". And just because it's over, doesn't mean it's gone.

You don't need to have been a politician or a mover and shaker or an aid worker or anything in life. All of us make a huge difference.

I love this quote from George Eliot's Middlemarch:

"The effect of her being on those around her was incalculably diffusive: for the growing good of the world is partly dependent on unhistorical acts; and that things are not so ill with you and me as they might have been, is half owing to the number who lived faithfully a hidden life, and rest in unvisited tombs.”

All of us make a huge difference in life. I love the idea that most films about time travel revolve around changing one tiny thing in the past, and of course they come back to the present and everything is different.

If you project that forward, you can change huge amounts of things into the future.

All our tombs will be unvisited in a few years - all our actions will mostly be unremembered - but the smile you gave the checkout lady or the kind words you gave to a stranger in the street could still be rippling forward.

We all have that opportunity and it's a huge power. And I want everyone to realise how special and precious they are.

I love melted cheese. Unfortunately I haven't been able to eat since Christmas. The chemotherapy killed my taste buds and the radiotherapy killed my salivary glands.

So, sadly, melted cheese and all the things I loved are off the menu.

However, I've been given full permission by my oncologist and my hospice team to enjoy as much Muscadet and as many cheeky rollups as I want - and I shall certainly be indulging in those and spending time with my family.

I'm sort of - not looking forward to my final day - of course that's the wrong way to see it. But I'm kind of curious about it, and I'm happy and I'm ready.

As Julian of Norwich said: "All shall be well, and all shall be well and all manner of things shall be well."

Simon Boas, who is from Jersey in the Channel Islands, expects to move into a hospice on Thursday where he will be spending his final days surrounded by his family.

When the Today Programme checked in with him that morning he was, unsurprisingly, in good spirits.
长周末刚过完,上来看到这个沉重的话题。。。

也许我们人的局限性没认识到,死亡不一定就是终点,也许是另一种存在的起点和开始。 难过的是活着的亲人和朋友。
有些故事还没讲完
那就算了吧
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#50 Re: 面对死亡:A Beginner's Guide to Dying

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Remind me of "When Breath Becomes Air".
Paul Kalanithi died at 37 during his residency training at Stanford Hospital as a neurosurgeon.
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#51 Re: 面对死亡:A Beginner's Guide to Dying

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也许已没有也许,死就是终结和虚无
所有的升天灵魂出窍,都是人的想象
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#52 Re: 面对死亡:A Beginner's Guide to Dying

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都在于生者如何面对记忆和变化。对过往的记忆是不变的,只会慢慢消失,但生活继续在变。
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