1/6闯国会大厦被打死的女子，家属获赔五百万

[datoumao]

什么冲，完全是被请君入瓮，5百万太少了

[wh]

司法部？警察局？这是美国司法腐败的重灾区。这也能信？华盛顿特区已经成了民主党的基地，或者说，是反川普的基地，这些人结成了利益团体，贪赃枉法，毫无底线。

司法部要是反川就不会赔五百万了，也不会取消科研经费了。既判定警员开枪合规，又赔偿死者家属五百万，反差太大。

[wh]

什么冲，完全是被请君入瓮，5百万太少了

现场是挺混乱的，因为群众人多、警察少吧，拦也拦不住。不过请君入瓮我觉得不太可能，暴动的群众什么可能都会发生，从议员到警察，谁也不敢以身试险。

[Savage]

不要说闯国会山，闯闯街道派出所试试…

1. 被派出所大妈唠叨的头疼，自动投降
2. 被不锈钢叉制服
3. 被递过来一杯茶，然后开始和值夜班的民警聊天，忘了自己来干啥的。。。

[wh]

1. 被派出所大妈唠叨的头疼，自动投降
2. 被不锈钢叉制服
3. 被递过来一杯茶，然后开始和值夜班的民警聊天，忘了自己来干啥的。。。

派出所没有大妈吧，大妈在居委会……
不锈钢叉是啥？
不战而屈人之兵最牛！

[Savage]

派出所没有大妈吧，大妈在居委会……
不锈钢叉是啥？
不战而屈人之兵最牛！

https://sd.ifeng.com/zbc/detail_2014_07 ... 58_0.shtml

[wh]

https://sd.ifeng.com/zbc/detail_2014_07 ... 58_0.shtml

11年前的新闻，为啥记得那么清楚……你是烟台的？

[Jam76]

那位是专门保卫国会山的警察chief，不是首都的警察局长。

曾经看过一篇文章，DC 有七，八种不同种类的警察，都是相互独立了。

看新闻说首都警察局长表示极度失望，强烈反对司法部的这个赔偿决定。局长说调查已经证明警察开枪是完全符合规范的操作，司法部的决定打击了警察保家卫国的信心。是不是如果川普不在台上，就不会有这笔巨额赔偿？

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4gr3kdxkr7o
US to pay $5m to family of 6 January rioter Ashli Babbitt
18 hours ago
Max Matza
BBC News



The Trump administration has agreed to pay a $5m (£3.7m) settlement to the family of Ashli Babbitt, a US Air Force veteran who was shot and killed by a Capitol police officer while breaching the US Congress on 6 January 2021.

Capitol Police Chief Tom Manger told CBS, the BBC's US partner, he is "extremely disappointed" with the decision. The officer involved in her shooting has been cleared of any wrongdoing.

The settlement resolves a $30m wrongful death suit filed by Babbitt's family and the conservative activist group Judicial Watch.

Thousands of Trump supporters descended on the US Capitol on 6 January in an attempt to halt the certification of Joe Biden's victory in the 2020 election.

Babbitt was part of a group that smashed windows in an effort to enter the chamber of the House of Representatives while it was still in session, forcing lawmakers to delay certification and flee for safety.

Video of the incident shows her being shot in the shoulder after attempting to climb through a door. She later died in hospital.

The wrongful death lawsuit filed by Babbitt's family claimed that the decision to open fire by Capitol Police officer Michael Byrd was negligent, and that Babbitt's hands were in the air when she was shot.

Family members say that Babbitt was motivated to come to the Capitol by Trump's claims of election fraud. No evidence has ever surfaced of widespread fraud in the 2020 election.

Mr Byrd previously defended the move to fire his gun, saying the group of lawmakers and security "were essentially trapped" and had "no way to retreat".

In August 2021, a Capitol Police review found that Mr Byrd's decision saved lives and was consistent with police training and procedures. A justice department review also found no evidence of any police wrongdoing.

"This is extremely disappointing and I completely disagree with the Department of Justice's decision," Chief Manger said in a statement to staff after learning of the settlement, the Washington Post reported.

"This settlement sends a chilling message to law enforcement officers across our nation - especially those who have a protective mission like ours," he added.

In January, on his first day back in the White House, President Donald Trump issued a blanket pardon for more than 1,500 Capitol riot defendants, including hundreds accused of assaulting police. He also fired the federal prosecutors who handled those cases.

Trump in March told conservative news outlet Newsmax that he's "a big fan of Ashli Babbitt" and that she was "innocently standing there" when she was shot.

"And a man did something unthinkable to her when he shot her, and I think it's a disgrace," he said, promising to "look into" the lawsuit brought by her family.

[BFG]

跟床粉有什么多辩论的。哥已经提不起兴趣跟他们“辩论“。都是揣着明白装糊涂。

私闯国会山庄不违法？因为国会都是纳税人建的？ 要么明天床粉闯一个试试？都是蘑菇头，右臂执政时代了，你代大家闯一个试试？

你麻痹，不到美国来，真不知道中国人当中那么多奇葩。互联网时代，社交媒体发达最大的副作用就是让各种牛鬼蛇神提供一个广阔的舞台。

[foxbat]

才五百万，果然黑命贵

看新闻说首都警察局长表示极度失望，强烈反对司法部的这个赔偿决定。局长说调查已经证明警察开枪是完全符合规范的操作，司法部的决定打击了警察保家卫国的信心。是不是如果川普不在台上，就不会有这笔巨额赔偿？

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4gr3kdxkr7o
US to pay $5m to family of 6 January rioter Ashli Babbitt
18 hours ago
Max Matza
BBC News



The Trump administration has agreed to pay a $5m (£3.7m) settlement to the family of Ashli Babbitt, a US Air Force veteran who was shot and killed by a Capitol police officer while breaching the US Congress on 6 January 2021.

Capitol Police Chief Tom Manger told CBS, the BBC's US partner, he is "extremely disappointed" with the decision. The officer involved in her shooting has been cleared of any wrongdoing.

The settlement resolves a $30m wrongful death suit filed by Babbitt's family and the conservative activist group Judicial Watch.

Thousands of Trump supporters descended on the US Capitol on 6 January in an attempt to halt the certification of Joe Biden's victory in the 2020 election.

Babbitt was part of a group that smashed windows in an effort to enter the chamber of the House of Representatives while it was still in session, forcing lawmakers to delay certification and flee for safety.

Video of the incident shows her being shot in the shoulder after attempting to climb through a door. She later died in hospital.

The wrongful death lawsuit filed by Babbitt's family claimed that the decision to open fire by Capitol Police officer Michael Byrd was negligent, and that Babbitt's hands were in the air when she was shot.

Family members say that Babbitt was motivated to come to the Capitol by Trump's claims of election fraud. No evidence has ever surfaced of widespread fraud in the 2020 election.

Mr Byrd previously defended the move to fire his gun, saying the group of lawmakers and security "were essentially trapped" and had "no way to retreat".

In August 2021, a Capitol Police review found that Mr Byrd's decision saved lives and was consistent with police training and procedures. A justice department review also found no evidence of any police wrongdoing.

"This is extremely disappointing and I completely disagree with the Department of Justice's decision," Chief Manger said in a statement to staff after learning of the settlement, the Washington Post reported.

"This settlement sends a chilling message to law enforcement officers across our nation - especially those who have a protective mission like ours," he added.

In January, on his first day back in the White House, President Donald Trump issued a blanket pardon for more than 1,500 Capitol riot defendants, including hundreds accused of assaulting police. He also fired the federal prosecutors who handled those cases.

Trump in March told conservative news outlet Newsmax that he's "a big fan of Ashli Babbitt" and that she was "innocently standing there" when she was shot.

"And a man did something unthinkable to her when he shot her, and I think it's a disgrace," he said, promising to "look into" the lawsuit brought by her family.

[Feliz]

川粉的三观是比较奇葩，我一直是深表理解。

跟床粉有什么多辩论的。哥已经提不起兴趣跟他们“辩论“。都是揣着明白装糊涂。

私闯国会山庄不违法？因为国会都是纳税人建的？ 要么明天床粉闯一个试试？都是蘑菇头，右臂执政时代了，你代大家闯一个试试？

你麻痹，不到美国来，真不知道中国人当中那么多奇葩。互联网时代，社交媒体发达最大的副作用就是让各种牛鬼蛇神提供一个广阔的舞台。

[wh]

才五百万，果然黑命贵

是说floyd吗？查了一下，市政府赔了2700万：
The City of Minneapolis agreed to pay George Floyd's family a settlement of $27 million. This settlement was part of a wrongful death lawsuit following Floyd's death in police custody.
不过Floyd的案子是判警察滥用职权、暴力执法、致人死命的。当然也受政治运动的影响，判刑和赔偿都比类似案件重。1/6的警察是被警方和司法部双重调查确认依法履行职责，没有过错。如果不是川普在任，不知道这个女人的家属还会不会得到赔偿，是不是大概率一分钱都没有。
这两件事在不同政治倾向的人的眼里肯定解读迥异。我主要是觉得执法部门对1/6事件的行为也不自洽，是不是受了川普的影响。另外川普特赦示威者是在总统的职权范围内，可怎么还有权撤了负责这个案件的检察官的职，这明显是以权谋私啊。

[branching]

哪有不分时间场合安检、让人随便进的国家机关。开枪是因为威胁到政府人员安全。警察局和司法部都调查确认了警察开枪合法合规：
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Ashli_Babbitt
...the Metropolitan Police Department of the District of Columbia and the United States Department of Justice investigated Babbitt's death and made a determination that the shooting was "lawful and within Department policy". Upon clearing Byrd, USCP released a press statement saying his action "potentially saved Members and staff from serious injury and possible death".

1/6的人判了啥罪？威胁政府人员和公共安全？

DOJ和DOJ也不一样，一个要把抗议学区的学生家长当恐怖分子起诉，给弗洛伊德下跪的DOJ你能指望什么呢。J6没有按你说的罪名起诉。

[foxbat]

2020选举是史上最大的作弊选举，睡舅得票比奥巴马都多，天大的笑话，人若有廉耻根本无法作左臂

是说floyd吗？查了一下，市政府赔了2700万：
The City of Minneapolis agreed to pay George Floyd's family a settlement of $27 million. This settlement was part of a wrongful death lawsuit following Floyd's death in police custody.
不过Floyd的案子是判警察滥用职权、暴力执法、致人死命的。当然也受政治运动的影响，判刑和赔偿都比类似案件重。1/6的警察是被警方和司法部双重调查确认依法履行职责，没有过错。如果不是川普在任，不知道这个女人的家属还会不会得到赔偿，是不是大概率一分钱都没有。
这两件事在不同政治倾向的人的眼里肯定解读迥异。我主要是觉得执法部门对1/6事件的行为也不自洽，是不是受了川普的影响。另外川普特赦示威者是在总统的职权范围内，可怎么还有权撤了负责这个案件的检察官的职，这明显是以权谋私啊。

[wh]

那位是专门保卫国会山的警察chief，不是首都的警察局长。

曾经看过一篇文章，DC 有七，八种不同种类的警察，都是相互独立了。

明白了，我改成国会警察局长了。在维基上看到当时的局长事后辞职了，不过他事前求过援，当天支援来迟，那不是他的错……
https://zh.wikipedia.org/zh-hans/%E5%9B ... A%E4%B9%B1
1月7日请辞的国会警察局局长史提芬·松德在1月10日接受采访时披露，他在冲击事件前两天已经担心示威规模难以控制，向参众两院警卫官申请调动国民警卫军以应对突发情况，不过遭到众议院警卫官保罗·欧文以“观感不佳”拒绝，参议院警卫官斯滕格则建议私下与华盛顿市国民警卫队指挥官沃克联络，承诺如果出现突发情况，能马上派出125人支援。事发当日，史提芬·松德在示威者开始冲击围栏时已经向华盛顿警察局求助，但是支援人员无法控制局面。在示威者闯入国会后，松德五次向参众两院警卫官申请国民警卫军协助未果，在第一名国民警卫军到达国会大厦时，冲突现场已经有四人死亡。

[wh]

DOJ和DOJ也不一样，一个要把抗议学区的学生家长当恐怖分子起诉，给弗洛伊德下跪的DOJ你能指望什么呢。J6没有按你说的罪名起诉。

下跪我也觉得故作姿态。起诉家长是什么事？j6是啥罪名？

[wh]

2020选举是史上最大的作弊选举，睡舅得票比奥巴马都多，天大的笑话，人若有廉耻根本无法作左臂

要是有大规模舞弊，早被共和党抓住把柄拿下了，两党谁都不是吃素的。

[branching]

下跪我也觉得故作姿态。起诉家长是什么事？j6是啥罪名？

故作姿态不是point，这几个事情说明了那时候DOJ的黑白颠倒。va家长被doj威胁以恐怖分子起诉是个很轰动的事件。J6就更复杂了，很多人被起诉，很多人几年都没被起诉而关押，罪名你有兴趣自己去研究一下。如果只用wiki作为标准来说基本上就不用讨论了。

[pascaldechin]

闯国会是暴力威胁行为，就算是被总统煽动，也是违法啊。有赔款的需要吗？总统有权赦免闯国会大厦的人，还可以罢免联邦检察官？不是三权分立吗？

被总统煽动，应该判总统给她家补偿5m.

[pascaldechin]

跟床粉有什么多辩论的。哥已经提不起兴趣跟他们“辩论“。都是揣着明白装糊涂。

私闯国会山庄不违法？因为国会都是纳税人建的？ 要么明天床粉闯一个试试？都是蘑菇头，右臂执政时代了，你代大家闯一个试试？

你麻痹，不到美国来，真不知道中国人当中那么多奇葩。互联网时代，社交媒体发达最大的副作用就是让各种牛鬼蛇神提供一个广阔的舞台。

我早就说过，华人穿粉是最奇葩最下贱的一个群体，不能以人类视之。