新未名空间

三大车厂自己开发的吗？

ILoveBainiu 写了： 2025年 8月 10日 05:18 什么玩意，机器人领域是系统工程，ROS还成核心了？叔就告诉你，好多车厂很鄙视ROS这种东西，都会开发自己的中间件

ILoveBainiu 写了： 2025年 8月 10日 05:10 亲手做你卷的过小黄人？

你这话说的，就是典型的只看效率，不管其它影响。

fanqie 写了： 2025年 8月 10日 09:19 半瓶子醋都没有，晃荡个啥？为啥用ROS为啥不用ROS你说不清楚的。

你还是闭个嘴吧，说的和AI生成的一样

fantasist 写了： 2025年 8月 10日 13:15 你这话说的，就是典型的只看效率，不管其它影响。

其他什么影响？宇树的产品利润很高，尤其走量以后，用户上去以后各种迭代都会加速，再和那些小作坊的比起来就是天差地别

ccmath 写了： 2025年 8月 10日 12:00 三大车厂自己开发的吗？

这个实力都没有还好意思叫三大车厂吗，ROS就是小作坊小初创用的多

ILoveBainiu 写了： 2025年 8月 10日 18:41 其他什么影响？宇树的产品利润很高，尤其走量以后，用户上去以后各种迭代都会加速，再和那些小作坊的比起来就是天差地别

你完全没理解我说的是什么，建议把之前的回帖多读两遍。

宇树的成功是美帝政策恶果的体现。因为贪便宜，把各种基础供应链放在墙国以后，看似能分出更多资源做高端研发，但长期研发能力其实在损失甚至崩溃。比如机器人公司研发过程中需要定制某些零件，供应商生产出来后宇树等墙国公司可以当天拿到，而美帝的公司至少要几天甚至几周。日积月累之下即使研发人员聪明和努力程度相同，迭代速度也差老远，自然无法竞争，这也是为什么gopro、boston dynamics之类的公司虽然最早做出来prototype，但过几年墙国的copy出来就落后了。这个问题跟所谓能不能卷过小黄人完全不在一个维度上。以前产业链外移到日本和东亚四小龙之类的地方，虽然会引起贸易争端，但总体是一个系统内部循环，谁多分点肉的问题。而墙国明摆着要颠覆整个系统换成自己完全控制的，属于走别人的路让别人无路可走，现在这么大规模的国际贸易的根基是不存在的。

Crocodile 写了： 2025年 8月 8日 00:06 先等宇树机器人能下马拉松赛，再来吹不迟

那就难为强国人了：强国讲究的是先吹，口头上先遥遥领先，效果另说。

ILoveBainiu 写了： 2025年 8月 10日 18:42 这个实力都没有还好意思叫三大车厂吗，ROS就是小作坊小初创用的多

土鳖不知道三大没有自动驾驶？吹个屁的自研啊

Ford 今天放大招了

Jim Farley
08.11.25

Ford is Reinventing Vehicle Assembly and Why America Should Care




Nearly 120 years ago, the Ford Model T became the “Universal Car.” Why? It was affordable, adaptable, and serviceable. America would never be the same.
Now, we’re ushering in the next chapter with the Ford Universal EV Platform — a new idea for a new era.
As with the Model T, Ford is again betting big on America. In Louisville, Kentucky, the reinvention of our company begins in earnest, with the implementation of an innovative manufacturing process to bring this platform to life.
Read the Full Announcement
We designed this platform to be the foundation for a new generation of electric vehicles. It is flexible enough to underpin trucks, cars, and everything in between.
Vehicles assembled on this platform will be affordable for the average family — but also highly efficient, customizable, and fun to drive. And they won’t be stripped down to the bare essentials.
Instead, these vehicles will be packed with innovative features and new software experiences that set them apart — and make people want to drive them. Better yet, they’ll improve over time with over-the-air updates that continue to add new capabilities where available.
Ford has been able to realize this vision because of a unique formula. We combined more than 120 years of manufacturing experience with the agility and inventiveness of a start-up “skunkworks” engineering team in California.
Doug Field
“I don’t think new EV startups will keep up with our Ford engineers and manufacturing teams making this a reality. New ideas are easy. But innovation is delivering ideas, in a way that millions can access.”
Doug Field, Ford chief EV, digital and design officer
The result: a new way to assemble vehicles. We’re calling it the Ford Universal EV Production System.
We transformed the traditional assembly line into a tree with three main branches. We’ll assemble the front and rear of the vehicle on separate lines. The third branch is the vehicle’s structural battery, which we’ll pre-assemble with seats, consoles, and carpeting.
These three branches come together at the end, a process that revolutionizes the factory and simplifies work for our employees.




Nothing is more important than the safety of our hourly workers. Not only will this reimagined manufacturing process be faster and require less space, but better ergonomics will result in less twisting, reaching, and straining, allowing them to stay focused on delivering quality for our customers.
Our Louisville-assembled midsize electric truck on this Universal EV Platform will debut in 2027. It will have a target starting MSRP at about $30,000, roughly the same as the Model T when adjusted for inflation.
It will be as quick as a Mustang EcoBoost, and it will have more passenger volume than a 2025 Toyota RAV4 — along with a truck bed, smart cargo and frunk solutions.
Ford is going to deliver what no other automaker has been able to: a family of affordable, adaptable electric vehicles that offer multiple body styles for work and play — including for export — and whose LFP batteries will be assembled in America, not imported from China.

fanqie 写了： 2025年 8月 11日 07:08 土鳖不知道三大没有自动驾驶？吹个屁的自研啊

ccmath 写了： 2025年 8月 11日 11:42 Ford 今天放大招了

Jim Farley
08.11.25

Ford is Reinventing Vehicle Assembly and Why America Should Care




Nearly 120 years ago, the Ford Model T became the “Universal Car.” Why? It was affordable, adaptable, and serviceable. America would never be the same.
Now, we’re ushering in the next chapter with the Ford Universal EV Platform — a new idea for a new era.
As with the Model T, Ford is again betting big on America. In Louisville, Kentucky, the reinvention of our company begins in earnest, with the implementation of an innovative manufacturing process to bring this platform to life.
Read the Full Announcement
We designed this platform to be the foundation for a new generation of electric vehicles. It is flexible enough to underpin trucks, cars, and everything in between.
Vehicles assembled on this platform will be affordable for the average family — but also highly efficient, customizable, and fun to drive. And they won’t be stripped down to the bare essentials.
Instead, these vehicles will be packed with innovative features and new software experiences that set them apart — and make people want to drive them. Better yet, they’ll improve over time with over-the-air updates that continue to add new capabilities where available.
Ford has been able to realize this vision because of a unique formula. We combined more than 120 years of manufacturing experience with the agility and inventiveness of a start-up “skunkworks” engineering team in California.
Doug Field
“I don’t think new EV startups will keep up with our Ford engineers and manufacturing teams making this a reality. New ideas are easy. But innovation is delivering ideas, in a way that millions can access.”
Doug Field, Ford chief EV, digital and design officer
The result: a new way to assemble vehicles. We’re calling it the Ford Universal EV Production System.
We transformed the traditional assembly line into a tree with three main branches. We’ll assemble the front and rear of the vehicle on separate lines. The third branch is the vehicle’s structural battery, which we’ll pre-assemble with seats, consoles, and carpeting.
These three branches come together at the end, a process that revolutionizes the factory and simplifies work for our employees.




Nothing is more important than the safety of our hourly workers. Not only will this reimagined manufacturing process be faster and require less space, but better ergonomics will result in less twisting, reaching, and straining, allowing them to stay focused on delivering quality for our customers.
Our Louisville-assembled midsize electric truck on this Universal EV Platform will debut in 2027. It will have a target starting MSRP at about $30,000, roughly the same as the Model T when adjusted for inflation.
It will be as quick as a Mustang EcoBoost, and it will have more passenger volume than a 2025 Toyota RAV4 — along with a truck bed, smart cargo and frunk solutions.
Ford is going to deliver what no other automaker has been able to: a family of affordable, adaptable electric vehicles that offer multiple body styles for work and play — including for export — and whose LFP batteries will be assembled in America, not imported from China.

属于放卫星, 福特自己的电动平台狗屎一样. 现在无非悬念就是用Rivian的技术还是中国的技术. Rivian也是狗屎一样的技术.

用中国技术的路被川普堵了. 所以现在传统车厂搞电车就是多做死得更快一条路.