fakeone 写了： 2025年 8月 21日 15:16因为右翼网站也不敢相信俄国报道啊。。。如果170万阵亡，伤亡就得500万了，乌克兰才多少人啊，考虑俄国人员和武器的优势，如果能造成乌军这种伤亡，早该突飞猛进，而不是象现在这样乌龟爬了。。
那只要说按来源不就行了，读者自有判断，篡改数据应该是搞新闻的大忌。
我感觉乌克兰的死伤比应该低一些，有点元首不许撤退的意思。但170万这个数有点高，说实话，这个确切数只有乌才有，别人都是瞎猜。同理，俄的确切数据也只有俄有。
AI 的12.5M 这个数字和我老毛估估的12M相当接近啊。
ridgway 写了： 2025年 8月 21日 14:28俄乌总伤亡140万，其中俄罗斯100万，乌克兰40万，这是伤亡合计，纯死亡一般只有四分之一（1：3死伤比）。
Troop Casualties in Ukraine War Near 1.4 Million, Study Finds
With high casualty figures and the slow pace of Russia’s territorial gains, President Vladimir V. Putin could face years more of a grinding war of attrition in Ukraine.
Listen to this article · 4:37 min Learn moreUkrainian volunteers identifying the remains of Russian soldiers in eastern Ukraine in February. Nearly one million Russian troops have been killed or wounded in the country’s war against Ukraine, according to a new study.Credit...Tyler Hicks/The New York Times
Helene CooperBy Helene Cooper
Reporting from Washington
June 3, 2025
Leer en españolNearly one million Russian troops have been killed or wounded in the country’s war against Ukraine, according to a new study, a staggering toll as Russia’s three-year assault on its neighbor grinds on.
The study, published on Tuesday by the Center for Strategic and International Studies in Washington, said that close to 400,000 Ukrainian troops have also been killed or wounded since the war began. That would put the overall casualty figure, for Russian and Ukrainian troops combined, at almost 1.4 million.
Officials cautioned that casualty figures were difficult to estimate because Moscow is believed to routinely undercount its war dead and injured, and Kyiv does not disclose official figures. The study published on Tuesday relied on casualty figures from American and British government estimates, among other sources.
The figures present an overall accounting of Russia’s slow progress in Ukraine, with Russia proceeding in some places at around 165 feet a day, slower than even the bogged-down and costly Somme advance of British and French troops in World War I. Since January 2024, Russia has seized less than 1 percent of Ukrainian territory, according to CSIS, even as it continues to advance in the country. Overall, Russia occupies about 20 percent of Ukraine.
哪有12.5M这个数字？AI估计的乌克兰适龄服役男子不是三四百万到六七百万吗？
我回错贴了。
12.5M 在李将军前面一个帖子里。