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#82 Re: 越南和美国达成一致:零关税和打击中国转口贸易诈骗换取22%-28%税率

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fangkuuaih 写了: 2025年 4月 13日 08:34 火力发电厂三大件,锅炉,汽轮机,发电机全世界供应商好几十个,日本欧洲美国一大堆。
技术出口限制,碳税就在眼前,你就老煤炉子烧水吧:
There are several international agreements and national commitments aimed at curbing the export and construction of coal-fired power plants abroad to protect the environment.​

OECD Agreement on Export Credits
In October 2021, member countries of the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD) agreed to end official export credit support for new unabated coal-fired power plants. This means that governments will no longer provide financial backing for the export of technology or services related to such projects, unless they involve carbon capture, utilization, and storage (CCUS) technologies。

China's Commitment
In September 2021, Chinese President Xi Jinping announced that China would cease building new coal-fired power projects abroad and instead support green and low-carbon energy development in other developing countries. This marked a significant shift in China's overseas energy investments .​

COP29 Pledge
At the COP29 climate summit in Baku, Azerbaijan, a coalition of 25 countries, including the UK, Canada, France, Germany, and Australia, committed to refraining from constructing new coal-fired power plants that lack carbon capture technology. This initiative aims to inspire other nations to follow suit and accelerate the global phase-out of coal .​

"No New Coal" Call to Action"
In a separate initiative, 25 countries and the European Union launched a "Call to Action for No New Coal," urging all governments to end the construction of new unabated coal power plants and to integrate this commitment into their national climate plans. This diplomatic campaign seeks to encourage a global transition away from coal in favor of cleaner energy sources .​
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gjq 写了: 2025年 4月 13日 08:20 1.5GW,30亿欧骡,你用得起?

天朝的太阳能都比这成本低
你不要了还准备卖30亿?
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#84 Re: 越南和美国达成一致:零关税和打击中国转口贸易诈骗换取22%-28%税率

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pinane 写了: 2025年 4月 13日 08:44 技术出口限制,碳税就在眼前,你就老煤炉子烧水吧:
There are several international agreements and national commitments aimed at curbing the export and construction of coal-fired power plants abroad to protect the environment.​

OECD Agreement on Export Credits
In October 2021, member countries of the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD) agreed to end official export credit support for new unabated coal-fired power plants. This means that governments will no longer provide financial backing for the export of technology or services related to such projects, unless they involve carbon capture, utilization, and storage (CCUS) technologies。

China's Commitment
In September 2021, Chinese President Xi Jinping announced that China would cease building new coal-fired power projects abroad and instead support green and low-carbon energy development in other developing countries. This marked a significant shift in China's overseas energy investments .​

COP29 Pledge
At the COP29 climate summit in Baku, Azerbaijan, a coalition of 25 countries, including the UK, Canada, France, Germany, and Australia, committed to refraining from constructing new coal-fired power plants that lack carbon capture technology. This initiative aims to inspire other nations to follow suit and accelerate the global phase-out of coal .​

"No New Coal" Call to Action"
In a separate initiative, 25 countries and the European Union launched a "Call to Action for No New Coal," urging all governments to end the construction of new unabated coal power plants and to integrate this commitment into their national climate plans. This diplomatic campaign seeks to encourage a global transition away from coal in favor of cleaner energy sources .​
现在还出口煤电设备,只是没有生产商国家的银行贷款而已。
全世界仅仅发达国家就有起码20,30家公司生产火电设备,还不包括俄罗斯等这些二流国家的公司,
中国凭什么卡脖子?
你们的蜜汁自信从何而来?
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#85 Re: 越南和美国达成一致:零关税和打击中国转口贸易诈骗换取22%-28%税率

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lobster110 写了: 2025年 4月 12日 10:27 中国前两年就不批准海外建火电站了,更不能转让火电技术
这就是小臂酱的认知。没有中国,别的国家建不了火电厂。
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#86 Re: 越南和美国达成一致:零关税和打击中国转口贸易诈骗换取22%-28%税率

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fangkuuaih 写了: 2025年 4月 13日 08:54 现在还出口煤电设备,只是没有生产商国家的银行贷款而已。
全世界仅仅发达国家就有起码20,30家公司生产火电设备,还不包括俄罗斯等这些二流国家的公司,
中国凭什么卡脖子?
你们的蜜汁自信从何而来?
长期没火电订单,之前会做,后面也不会做了,否则为什么有去工业化现象?

还“仅仅发达国家就有起码20,30家公司生产火电设备,还不包括俄罗斯等这些二流国家的公司”,这世界有这么订单养他们吗?
你给我列出来他们的销量,电军不要张口就来!

而且即便有一些公司能造,相比中国,这些外国建电厂,工期慢三倍,价格贵三倍。慢慢享受去吧!
上次由 DongshanGe 在 2025年 4月 13日 09:19 修改。
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DongshanGe 写了: 2025年 4月 13日 09:17 长期没火电订单,之前会做,后面也不会做了,否则为什么有去工业化现象?

还“仅仅发达国家就有起码20,30家公司生产火电设备,还不包括俄罗斯等这些二流国家的公司”,这世界有这么订单养他们吗?
你给我列出来他们的销量,电军不要张口就来!

而且,相比中国,这些外国建电厂,工期慢三倍,价格贵三倍。慢慢享受去吧!
现在转进到工期慢三倍,价格贵三倍?
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#88 Re: 越南和美国达成一致:零关税和打击中国转口贸易诈骗换取22%-28%税率

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你以为拆下来的可以用?
皇军不抢粮 写了: 2025年 4月 13日 08:44 你不要了还准备卖30亿?
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fangkuuaih 写了: 2025年 4月 13日 09:18 现在转进到工期慢三倍,价格贵三倍?
先回答世界有几十家造火电设备的公司在哪里!
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gjq 写了: 2025年 4月 13日 09:19 你以为拆下来的可以用?
看怎么拆咯……
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DongshanGe 写了: 2025年 4月 13日 09:19 先回答世界有几十家造火电设备的公司在哪里!
Several Japanese companies are involved in the design, construction, and operation of coal-fired power plants, including JERA, Mitsubishi Heavy Industries, Mitsubishi Electric, Tokyo Electric Power Company (TEPCO), and Kobe Steel. These companies also play a role in developing technologies for reducing emissions from coal-fired power plants, such as carbon capture and storage and biomass co-firing.
Here's a more detailed look at some of these companies:
JERA (Japan Energy Research Association):
This is the largest power company in Japan, formed by a merger of Tokyo Electric Power Company (TEPCO) and Chubu Electric Power Company. JERA operates numerous coal-fired power plants and is also involved in developing and implementing new technologies to improve the efficiency and reduce the environmental impact of these plants.
Mitsubishi Heavy Industries (MHI):
MHI is a major manufacturer of power generation equipment, including boilers, turbines, and generators for coal-fired power plants. They have been involved in the construction and operation of coal-fired power plants in Japan and overseas.
Mitsubishi Electric:
Mitsubishi Electric also manufactures power generation equipment and is involved in the development of advanced technologies for coal-fired power plants, including carbon capture and storage.
Tokyo Electric Power Company (TEPCO):
TEPCO is a major utility company in Japan that operates several coal-fired power plants. They are also involved in developing new technologies for reducing emissions from coal-fired power plants, such as ammonia co-firing.
Kobe Steel:
Kobe Steel owns and operates the Kobelco Power Kobe coal-fired power station, which is a 2 x 700 MW supercritical coal plant. They are also exploring the use of ammonia and hydrogen co-firing to reduce emissions from their coal-fired power plants.
Other companies:
Other companies involved in the coal-fired power sector in Japan include Chugoku Electric Power, Hokuriku Electric Power, Kyushu Electric Power, and the Electric Power Development Company.

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Several companies manufacture and supply coal-fired power equipment and boilers, including both European and international players. Key suppliers include Mitsubishi Power, Babcock & Wilcox, General Electric, IHI, and ABB. Mitsubishi Power offers a comprehensive suite of boiler services, including modernization, spare parts, and customer-oriented support for utility steam generators and components. Babcock & Wilcox is a long-standing manufacturer of large-scale utility boilers, with a history dating back to the 19th century. General Electric has provided solutions for reducing NOx emissions in Czech Republic coal-fired power plants. IHI is another major boiler manufacturer that supplies coal-fired power plant boilers globally. ABB Group provides solutions for coal-fired power plants, including early-stage project involvement and optimized designs. Doosan Enerbility is another supplier operating in Europe.
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Mitsubishi Power:
Known for its proprietary boiler technologies and low NOx burner systems, Mitsubishi Power offers services for utility steam generators, components, and power plant modernization. Their services are available across Europe, the Middle East, and Asia.
Babcock & Wilcox:
With a history dating back to 1867, Babcock & Wilcox is a major player in large-scale utility boiler manufacturing, having designed the world's first installed utility boiler.
General Electric:
GE provides solutions for reducing emissions in coal-fired power plants and offers services for various boiler types, including non-GE equipment.
IHI:
A major boiler manufacturer from Japan, IHI supplies boilers for power generation in various countries, including Europe. IHI also offers detailed maintenance studies and practical techniques to improve boiler performance.
ABB:
ABB provides solutions for coal-fired power plants, involving early-stage project planning and offering integrated solutions for plant automation and efficiency.
These companies represent a range of expertise in coal-fired power generation, offering both equipment supply and related services.

Several companies provide coal-fired power equipment and boiler solutions in the U.S., including Babcock & Wilcox, GE Vernova, and Hurst Boiler. These companies offer various services, from designing and manufacturing boilers to providing maintenance and repair for existing coal-fired power plants.
Key Players and Their Offerings:
Babcock & Wilcox:
A global leader in energy and environmental technologies, Babcock & Wilcox has a long history in designing and building boilers, including those for coal-fired power plants, and offers a wide range of services for both new and existing installations. They also specialize in aftermarket equipment and construction services for coal power systems, including pressure parts, firing systems, and environmental equipment.
GE Vernova:
GE Vernova provides extensive boiler service solutions, including optimization for coal-fired power plants and maintenance, repair, and upgrade services for various boiler equipment types. They also offer boiler parts and services for legacy boiler manufacturers, such as Combustion Engineering, ABB, and Alstom.
Hurst Boiler:
Hurst Boiler specializes in designing, fabricating, and installing complete coal-fired boiler systems, including fuel storage, combustion chambers, and exhaust gas emission mitigation. They also offer auxiliary equipment and various types of stokers for coal-fired boilers.
Mitsubishi Power:
Mitsubishi Power provides high-quality boilers and related services, including low NOx burner technologies for solid and pulverized fuels.
Riley Power:
A division of Babcock Power, Riley Power specializes in steam boiler parts and fuel burning equipment, including low NOx dual air zone wall burners for coal-fired boilers.
Other notable players:
EPCB Boiler: Offers coal-fired steam and hot water boilers for industrial applications, including textile factories, according to their website.
S.S. Engineers: Provides services for coal-fired power plants, including design, manufacturing, and commissioning.
Qlar: Focuses on fuel flow systems and material handling equipment for coal and coke-fired power plants.
Skanska: Provides engineering, fabrication, and construction services for coal-fired power plants, including environmental upgrades and capital projects.
Stock Equipment Company: Supplies coal feeding and material handling equipment to power plants.

In the U.S., major suppliers of steam turbines for coal-fired power plants include GE Vernova, Siemens Energy, and Mitsubishi Power. These companies offer a wide range of turbine sizes and technologies for both new construction and upgrades to existing plants.
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Here's a more detailed look at each supplier:
GE Vernova:
GE Vernova is a global leader in steam turbine technology and has been a long-standing partner to the nuclear and fossil fuel power industries. They offer a comprehensive portfolio of steam turbine services, including parts, repairs, maintenance, and life extension. GE Vernova is also actively collaborating with coal plant customers in the Americas to solve their challenges.
Siemens Energy:
Siemens Energy provides a comprehensive range of steam turbine products for power plants, including utility steam turbines and those used in nuclear and combined cycle plants. They have a large installed base of steam turbines worldwide. Siemens Energy also has a strong presence in the North American market, including involvement in concentrated solar power projects.
Mitsubishi Power:
Mitsubishi Power has a history of supplying steam turbines for both thermal and nuclear power plants. They have delivered numerous turbines capable of operating at ultra-supercritical steam conditions, contributing to the development of highly efficient coal-fired plants. Mitsubishi Power offers a wide range of turbine sizes, from small and mid-sized industrial applications to large turbines for power plants.
Elliott Group:
Elliott Group is another manufacturer of steam turbines for various applications, including power generation and other industries.
Toshiba America Energy Systems:
Toshiba America Energy Systems also manufactures steam turbines for power generation and other industrial sectors.
MAN Energy Solutions:
MAN Energy Solutions USA manufactures steam turbines for various applications, including power generation.
Fuji Electric:
Fuji Electric Corp. of America is also a supplier of steam turbines, particularly for geothermal and steam power applications.

Several companies provide equipment and services for coal-fired power plants, including Integrated Power Services (IPS), GE Vernova, Babcock Power, and Sulzer. These companies offer a range of services, including engineering, maintenance, and repair for various components like steam turbines, generators, and controls.
Key Suppliers and Their Offerings:
Integrated Power Services (IPS):
IPS provides single-source capabilities for coal-fired power plants, offering services for electric motors, generators, rotating equipment, and power distribution.
GE Vernova:
GE Vernova offers steam turbine services, generator services, controls, and outage services for coal power plants. They also have a strong focus on collaborating with customers in the Americas to address their challenges.
Babcock Power:
Babcock Power focuses on providing solutions for improving efficiency and reliability in power plants, including designs for BOP (Balance of Plant) and CCW (Cooling Circulating Water) systems, as well as coolers for engines and generators.
Sulzer:
Sulzer provides efficient pumps and related services for boiler feed, condensate extraction, and cooling water applications in coal-fired power plants. They also offer maintenance and service for rotating equipment.
USP&E:
USP&E provides new and low-hour generators, power plant O&M services, and power plant EPC (Engineering, Procurement, and Construction) services.
IMP Corporation:
IMP is a wholesale supplier of generators, engines, and power plants, including options for various fuel types (diesel, natural gas, etc.).
Cummins:
Cummins offers generators and power systems, including options for home and portable use.
Woodstock Power:
Woodstock Power specializes in used industrial generators and engines, offering a cost-effective alternative to new equipment.
Mitsubishi Heavy Industries, Ltd.:
MHI Group has supplied over 1,000 turbine generators worldwide and offers various generator-related products and services.

Here are some of the key Japanese companies that supply equipment and generators for coal-fired power plants:
Major Suppliers:
Mitsubishi Power:
Offers turbine generators with a strong track record for reliability, and has delivered over 1,000 turbine generators worldwide.
Mitsubishi Generator Co., Ltd. was established by combining the power generator systems businesses of Mitsubishi Heavy Industries, Ltd. and Mitsubishi Electric Corporation, providing equipment and services.
Toshiba:
Provides turbine generators with a wide range of capacities, from small to large.
Focuses on enhancing the application of indirect hydrogen-cooled generators for higher efficiency and reliability.
Offers seamless service for thermal power plant systems from R&D to design, manufacturing, sales, installation, and maintenance.
IHI Corporation:
A major boiler manufacturer in Japan, supplying boilers for power generation both in Japan and overseas.
Offers boilers for ultra-large-scale power plants (over 1,000 MW) as well as for industrial use and independent power producers (IPPs).
Also provides maintenance studies on IHI and other suppliers' boilers to improve performance.
Fuji Electric:
A global leader in industrial products and power generation equipment.
Has a long history of manufacturing steam turbines and has delivered them worldwide.
Is considered one of the leading thermal power equipment manufacturers globally.
Other Companies involved in Coal-Fired Power Generation:
JERA: Japan's largest thermal power producer, which is actively working on technologies to reduce CO2 emissions from coal-fired power plants, including co-firing ammonia with coal.
KOBELCO: Has coal-fired power plant facilities in Kobe, including the Kobelco Power Kobe, Inc. and Kobelco Power Kobe No. 2, Inc.
J-POWER (Electric Power Development Co., Ltd.): Has a history of developing and operating clean coal technologies.
Note:
The Japanese energy sector is increasingly focusing on reducing carbon emissions and exploring alternative fuels like ammonia and hydrogen for coal-fired power plants.
Some Japanese companies are involved in joint projects and research with international partners to advance these technologies.
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Several Japanese companies are prominent suppliers of steam turbines for coal-fired power plants. Prominent suppliers include Kawasaki Heavy Industries Ltd., JFE Technos Co., Ltd, Sumitomo Heavy Industries, Ltd., Elliott Ebara Turbomachinery Corporation, and Doosan Skoda Power. Additionally, Toshiba Energy Systems is another notable supplier.
Here's a more detailed look at some of these suppliers:
Kawasaki Heavy Industries Ltd.:
A major manufacturer of various industrial equipment, including steam turbines, and is a leading supplier in Japan.
JFE Technos Co., Ltd:
Known for its engineering and construction capabilities, including projects involving power plant equipment.
Sumitomo Heavy Industries, Ltd.:
A large conglomerate with a significant presence in the power industry, offering various turbine solutions.
Elliott Ebara Turbomachinery Corporation:
Specializes in advanced turbine technologies and is a key player in the Japanese market.
Doosan Skoda Power:
While primarily based in the Czech Republic, Doosan Skoda Power is a global supplier with significant experience in supplying steam turbines to Japan, according to Turbomachinery Magazine.
Toshiba Energy Systems:
A global leader in energy solutions, including steam turbine technology, and active in the Japanese market.

In Europe, major suppliers of coal-fired power equipment, including steam turbines, include Siemens Energy, GE Power, and Ansaldo Energia. These companies offer a range of turbine technologies for power generation, including those used in coal-fired power plants.
Elaboration:
Siemens Energy:
A global leader in energy technologies, Siemens Energy provides a comprehensive portfolio of products and services for power generation, transmission, and distribution, including steam turbines for coal-fired power plants.
GE Power:
Another major player in the global power industry, GE Power offers steam turbines and other power generation equipment for various applications, including coal-fired power plants.
Ansaldo Energia:
An Italian company, Ansaldo Energia specializes in the design, manufacture, and installation of steam turbines and other power generation equipment, including those for coal-fired power plants.

Several companies supply coal-fired power plant equipment and generators in Europe. Leading suppliers include Siemens Energy, GE Vernova, Mitsubishi Power, and Mitsubishi Hitachi Power Systems (MHPS). Champion Power Equipment Europe is another notable supplier.
Here's a more detailed look at some of these key players:
Siemens Energy:
Siemens has a long history in power generation, having built its first power plant in 1885 and developed the first electric generator in 1866, according to Siemens Energy. They offer a range of power plant solutions, including steam turbines, generators, and related services.
GE Vernova:
GE Vernova manufactures generators and steam turbines, and provides power plant solutions to multiple markets. They have a significant presence in Europe, including factories in Poland.
Mitsubishi Power:
Mitsubishi Power (formerly Mitsubishi Heavy Industries) provides turbine generators with a strong reliability reputation, and has delivered over 1,000 to date. They also offer a range of services, according to Mitsubishi Power.
Mitsubishi Hitachi Power Systems (MHPS):
MHPS is a joint venture between Mitsubishi Heavy Industries and Hitachi, Ltd., offering a wide range of thermal power generation systems and services, according to MHPS. They have a significant presence in Europe, with a subsidiary, MHPS Europe GmbH, offering power plant design, construction, and maintenance services.
Champion Power Equipment Europe:
Champion provides a range of power equipment.

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皇军不抢粮 写了: 2025年 4月 13日 07:50 炼钢炼铁很容易。腊肉那会不就炼过吗?要不怎么说脑残死不绝?
这么容易,你各路野爹怎么不自己炼,还要从中国卖?真是麻痹满脑子是屎,现在还用腊肉时期技术是吗?臭傻逼呼吸都是浪费空气
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fangkuuaih 写了: 2025年 4月 13日 09:15 这就是小臂酱的认知。没有中国,别的国家建不了火电厂。
地下室傻逼佬。你出钱帮越南猴子买高价日本设备去。反正兔子不卖,赶紧滚一边去
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takeway 写了: 2025年 4月 13日 10:05 这么容易,你各路野爹怎么不自己炼,还要从中国卖?真是麻痹满脑子是屎,现在还用腊肉时期技术是吗?臭傻逼呼吸都是浪费空气
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#95 Re: 越南和美国达成一致:零关税和打击中国转口贸易诈骗换取22%-28%税率

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takeway 写了: 2025年 4月 13日 10:05 这么容易,你各路野爹怎么不自己炼,还要从中国卖?真是麻痹满脑子是屎,现在还用腊肉时期技术是吗?臭傻逼呼吸都是浪费空气
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#96 Re: 越南和美国达成一致:零关税和打击中国转口贸易诈骗换取22%-28%税率

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lobster110 写了: 2025年 4月 13日 10:20 地下室傻逼佬。你出钱帮越南猴子买高价日本设备去。反正兔子不卖,赶紧滚一边去
眼看着太君赚钱。太君稳了……
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#97 Re: 越南和美国达成一致:零关税和打击中国转口贸易诈骗换取22%-28%税率

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皇军不抢粮 写了: 2025年 4月 13日 10:45 眼看着太君赚钱。太君稳了……
恭喜你,赶紧跟着你家太君后面吃屎去。
你家太君在印度建高铁赚钱爽的很
萬水千山總是情
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#98 Re: 越南和美国达成一致:零关税和打击中国转口贸易诈骗换取22%-28%税率

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lobster110 写了: 2025年 4月 13日 10:47 恭喜你,赶紧跟着你家太君后面吃屎去。
你家太君在印度建高铁赚钱爽的很
我是太君本尊啊。你准备好接屎了吗?
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#99 Re: 越南和美国达成一致:零关税和打击中国转口贸易诈骗换取22%-28%税率

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皇军不抢粮 写了: 2025年 4月 13日 10:48 我是太君本尊啊。你准备好接屎了吗?
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#100 Re: 越南和美国达成一致:零关税和打击中国转口贸易诈骗换取22%-28%税率

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lobster110 写了: 2025年 4月 13日 10:49 你是狗子的一坨屎
你吃下去了?
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