ignius 写了： 2025年 7月 1日 23:23 不会的，老马在中国可以安心实现他的理想，政府会全力的支持。美国的政客和人民傻逼太多了。老马在美国之所以参政就是因为被傻逼政府进行政制迫害。在中国根本不用，他想做的电车，太阳能，智能机器人，太空旅行，中国政府都想做。
ignius 写了： 2025年 7月 2日 13:19 你不知道老马在AI界属于保守派，主张对AI严格的监督管制？
Elon Musk has been a very vocal advocate for AI safety for many years. He considers AI to be one of the most serious threats facing humanity, with a potential for "civilization destruction". Musk even ended a friendship with Google co-founder Larry Page over disagreements on the risks of AI.
Musk's Key Concerns Regarding AI Safety:
Existential Risk from Super-Intelligent AI: Musk fears the development of super-intelligent AI that surpasses human intelligence across all areas. He believes that if such AI were to develop goals that don't align with human values, it could pose an existential threat to humanity.
Uncontrolled Development and Unintended Consequences: Musk believes that AI development, without proper safety measures and regulation, could lead to AI becoming uncontrollable and having catastrophic consequences.
Data Privacy and Security: With the increasing use of AI relying on large datasets, Musk is concerned about data privacy violations and security breaches.
Need for Regulation and Oversight: Musk consistently advocates for establishing regulatory bodies to oversee AI development and ensure safety and ethical practices.
AI Alignment and Safety Research: Musk stresses the importance of investing in AI alignment research to ensure AI systems' goals align with human values. He co-founded OpenAI with this goal.
Public Awareness and Education: Musk emphasizes the importance of educating the public about the potential dangers of AI to encourage debate and support for safety-focused policies.
Musk's Actions on AI Safety:
Advocacy for Regulation: He has been a prominent voice calling for federal regulation on AI.
Support for California Bill SB 1047: He endorsed this bill requiring AI developers to conduct safety testing.
Support for a Government Agency Dedicated to AI Safety: Musk believes such an agency should monitor AI labs and raise concerns if safety is compromised.
Co-founding OpenAI: He helped establish OpenAI to focus on AI alignment and safety research.
Potential Role in Policy-Making:
Musk's technical expertise and long-standing advocacy for AI safety could make him a valuable asset in developing responsible AI governance, particularly if he were to be involved in policy-making, though potential conflicts of interest would need to be addressed.
ignius 写了： 2025年 7月 2日 13:19 你不知道老马在AI界属于保守派，主张对AI严格的监督管制？
Elon Musk has been a very vocal advocate for AI safety for many years. He considers AI to be one of the most serious threats facing humanity, with a potential for "civilization destruction". Musk even ended a friendship with Google co-founder Larry Page over disagreements on the risks of AI.
Musk's Key Concerns Regarding AI Safety:
Existential Risk from Super-Intelligent AI: Musk fears the development of super-intelligent AI that surpasses human intelligence across all areas. He believes that if such AI were to develop goals that don't align with human values, it could pose an existential threat to humanity.
Uncontrolled Development and Unintended Consequences: Musk believes that AI development, without proper safety measures and regulation, could lead to AI becoming uncontrollable and having catastrophic consequences.
Data Privacy and Security: With the increasing use of AI relying on large datasets, Musk is concerned about data privacy violations and security breaches.
Need for Regulation and Oversight: Musk consistently advocates for establishing regulatory bodies to oversee AI development and ensure safety and ethical practices.
AI Alignment and Safety Research: Musk stresses the importance of investing in AI alignment research to ensure AI systems' goals align with human values. He co-founded OpenAI with this goal.
Public Awareness and Education: Musk emphasizes the importance of educating the public about the potential dangers of AI to encourage debate and support for safety-focused policies.
Musk's Actions on AI Safety:
Advocacy for Regulation: He has been a prominent voice calling for federal regulation on AI.
Support for California Bill SB 1047: He endorsed this bill requiring AI developers to conduct safety testing.
Support for a Government Agency Dedicated to AI Safety: Musk believes such an agency should monitor AI labs and raise concerns if safety is compromised.
Co-founding OpenAI: He helped establish OpenAI to focus on AI alignment and safety research.
Potential Role in Policy-Making:
Musk's technical expertise and long-standing advocacy for AI safety could make him a valuable asset in developing responsible AI governance, particularly if he were to be involved in policy-making, though potential conflicts of interest would need to be addressed.
geniushanbiao 写了： 2025年 7月 2日 13:24 但是他也是AGI的大力推行者之一。AI界真正的保守者都在推行ANI，主张严格限制AI的功能而不是像马斯克这样只是加强监管。
这道理和控枪是一样的。虽说我反对控枪，但是必须承认的现实是如果人们手里没有枪就不会有那么多枪击。AI一个道理，你把枪给AI然后谈监管？掩耳盗铃矣。
首先，你凭什么会觉得老马搞出来的AGI就一定是听人话的呢？别的不说，他自己儿子他都搞不定，更不要说AGI了。ignius 写了： 2025年 7月 2日 13:33 老马不搞，别人也会搞。老马最起码主张严格的监督和管制AI。你谈到控枪。你把枪从人民手里拿走，但是犯罪分子会从黑市搞到枪支，那以后人民就没有枪来自卫了。
AGI同样的道理。老马如果能发展出来听人话的AGI，就可以帮助人类对抗那些不听人话的AGI。
geniushanbiao 写了： 2025年 7月 2日 13:41 首先，你凭什么会觉得老马搞出来的AGI就一定是听人话的呢？别的不说，他自己儿子他都搞不定，更不要说AGI了。
还有，我倒是想问问你，他说了这么多对AI safety的concern，他都做了什么呢？只是说说而已？甚至说一套做一套？我看到的是他在特斯拉上一步步地把控制权完全交给电脑。车板对FSD的讨论你也参与了，其中的核心价值观就是车是要被人控制的而马斯克在反其道行之让AI全权控制车而人只是和AI talk。这是非常危险的。如果AI发疯而车的控制权在AI的话，车上的人没有什么办法制衡AI。
lol推了半天AGI，现在又来ANI了？我说这货说一套做一套吧ignius 写了： 2025年 7月 2日 13:48 你说的完全驴唇不对马嘴。你不是一直在说AGI吗？怎嘛又扯到fsd上了？fsd明明就是ANI。你嘴里说的最安全的。还有你说的自动驾驶的安全，跟Ai安全完全两码事，你脑子一团浆糊。
geniushanbiao 写了： 2025年 7月 2日 13:55 lol推了半天AGI，现在又来ANI了？我说这货说一套做一套吧
我没有说ANI安全。整个AI都是不安全的，只是ANI比AGI相对安全些因为功能差很多，这道理就是一个拿着好几把AK的比拿着一把手枪的危险得多。你连这都想不明白，到底谁一脑子浆糊？
瞧你这一脑袋水，ANI就不是AI了是么？FSD的安全和AI安全不相关么？我说的很清楚了如果FSD发疯的问题，这是不是AI的安全问题？ignius 写了： 2025年 7月 2日 15:01 你自己脑袋一堆浆糊拎不清。
fsd是属于ANI。
optimus才属于AGI。
你自己概念这么糊涂，还把fsd的安全当成ai的安全，真是让人无语。
geniushanbiao 写了： 2025年 7月 2日 15:21 瞧你这一脑袋水，ANI就不是AI了是么？FSD的安全和AI安全不相关么？我说的很清楚了如果FSD发疯的问题，这是不是AI的安全问题？
AI的安全问题多的是，你用不着在这咬文嚼字。所以我要坚决反对发展AI，尤其是AGI和ASI。任何坚持发展AI的人都是全人类的敌人。
一龙去中国后，可以继续骂美国总统，中国总统是乐意见到的。中国最想把一龙的星链也弄过去。