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"❗️The Russian FSB literally cut off the Moscow Crocus City Hall terrorist's ear and fed it to him."

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First he was refusing to speak

After some body modification he decided to speak
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/20 ... explainer/
The extremist group claimed responsibility for the attack, according to its news agency Amaq. A U.S. official who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive information said the United States had “no reason to doubt” the group’s claim. Independent terrorism experts also said the characteristics of the raid appeared consistent with an Islamic State attack.

On March 7, the U.S. Embassy in Russia said that it was “monitoring reports that extremists have imminent plans to target large gatherings in Moscow, to include concerts,” and it urged U.S. citizens to avoid large gatherings. The U.S. government said it had also shared the information with Russian officials.

While the Islamic State has not said which of its branches was involved in the attack, two U.S. officials said that recent intelligence reporting indicated the Islamic State’s Afghanistan and Pakistan branch, known as Islamic State-Khorasan or ISIS-K, was active inside Russia.

Earlier this month, Russia’s Federal Security Service said it had foiled an ISIS-K attack on a Moscow synagogue, the country’s Tass news agency reported.

According to a 2017 report from the Soufan Center, which studies violent extremism, more foreign fighters joined Islamic State from the former Soviet republics than any other region. In 2015, militants in Russian provinces and republics pledged allegiance to the group and formed IS-Caucasus Province.

The Islamic State has carried out other major attacks on Russian interests abroad: In 2015, a Russian plane carrying 224 people exploded over Egypt’s Sinai peninsula, killing all onboard. A local Islamic State branch claimed responsibility for the attack.

In 2022, several people were killed in an ISIS-K attack on the Russian Embassy in Kabul.

Russia’s heavy-handed rule over the Muslim-majority North Caucasus region and its support for Syrian President Bashar al-Assad during the long-running civil war have spurred jihadist narratives against Russia and President Vladimir Putin.


.....



Last year’s U.S. intelligence leaks on the Discord messaging platform revealed that Afghanistan, in particular, had become an important staging ground for planned Islamic State attacks across Europe and Asia, while a report from a U.N. Security Council committee last summer said that member states were growing increasingly concerned about ISIS-K’s ability “to project a threat into the region, and further afield into Europe.”

ISIS-K has carried out large-scale attacks — some also preceded by the United States warning of imminent danger, including a deadly attack on the Kabul airport during the international withdrawal from Afghanistan in August 2021. Dozens were killed, including 13 U.S. service members. Hours before the attack, U.S. and Western governments warned people to stay away from the airport amid a specific threat from ISIS-K.

Earlier this year, at least 95 people were killed in bombing attacks in Iran; the Islamic State claimed responsibility.

Inside Afghanistan, the attacks have decreased in recent years, however, according to a report from the Washington Institute for Near East Policy published in September.
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meiyoumajia 写了: 3月 22, 2024, 10:46 pm 在telegram 上(如果有)amaq发的信息是怎么说的?

telegram 从2020年开始就查封isis和相关人员在上面发帖

如果是真的,cnn等是怎么捕捉到在“telegram上(如果有)amaq频道”(如果有)相关内容的?

https://gnet-research.org/2020/07/30/te ... ggestions/

By Meili Criezis
30th July 2020
In Insights
In November, Telegram and Europol launched a two-day coordinated campaign focused on removing Islamic State (IS) channels, groups, and pro-Islamic State accounts from the platform. Although Telegram had made previous efforts to take down IS content, the November campaign was far greater in scope.








December 26, 2016






Today
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Telegram 受到的外部压力肯定会多倍地增


不管“幕后”组织是什么,塔吉克国都会感受到很大的压力。


阿富汗塔利班可能因此会得到外面(尤其是俄国,尤其还有已经建立公路连接、而且在搞双边铁路建设的对其经济发展最重要的邻居中国)对它反恐更大的支持
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🇷🇺⚫️ CIG #commentary | Despite solid evidence that the Islamic State is behind the Crocus City Hall terrorist attack, with ISIS themselves claiming responsibility, Russian news channels and other pro-Russian Western pundits are pushing the narrative that Ukraine and Vladimir Zelensky are the real masterminds.

Vladimir Putin and the Federal Security Service (FSB) are trying to cover up their embarrassing failure which allowed 4 jihadists to torch a concert hall in Moscow and kill over 143 people and then attempt an escape after receiving a heads up from U.S. intelligence three weeks ago about potential ISIS/ISKP activity in Russia. They are trying to spin it up as being the work of the SBU by falsely claiming that the terrorists are either Chechens and are affiliated with the Ajnad-al-Kavkaz group or that they are simply jihadist Tadjiks recruited by Ukraine and fight an irregular war against Russia.

Perhaps after annihilating two ISKP cells in Ingushetia earlier this month, the FSB let its guard down thinking they terminated all threats coming from ISKP but they were wrong. The ISKP remains ISIS' strongest and most prolific franchise with a number of cells in Afghanistan and Pakistan, with links to jihadists in India and likely receiving aid from Pakistani intelligence.

The ISKP has been able to penetrate Iran, bombing the city of Kerman in January 2024, where IRGC general, Qassem Soleimani is buried.

ISIS is on the rise again not just in Central Asia, but also in the Middle East, now that the eyes of the powers who were dealing with ISIS are focused elsewhere, Russia's FSB on Ukrainian sabotage, Iran and the U.S. on events in Gaza and Lebanon. Attacks like the Crocus City Hall will become more common unless the security agencies all over the world take ISIS and its branches seriously.
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very very very sickening

i could only last for the first three...

a clip shows
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❗️Warning extremely graphic content of terrorists slitting the throats of civilians inside Crocus City Hall.

😲After watching this do you now think the ear cutting in response justified?
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very very very sickening

i could only last for the first three...

a clip shows
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❗️Warning extremely graphic content of terrorists slitting the throats of civilians inside Crocus City Hall.

😲After watching this do you now think the ear cutting in response justified?
"

in one of the telegram channels, if you stay long enough to read the messages in the page, it would show the section...

the owner should blur it and give readers the option to watch it only after they click it! but he doesn't do that.
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meiyoumajia 写了: 3月 23, 2024, 8:15 pm very very very sickening

i could only last for the first three...

a clip shows
"
❗️Warning extremely graphic content of terrorists slitting the throats of civilians inside Crocus City Hall.

😲After watching this do you now think the ear cutting in response justified?
"

in one of the telegram channels, if you stay long enough to read the messages in the page, it would show the section...

the owner should blur it and give readers the option to watch it only after they click it! but he doesn't do that.

this is a different channel
i am not sure if it is the same content since it used the word "stab" instead of "slice"
i appreciate that this owner properly handled this clip for others.



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one shooter's being captured

he was behaving like a lamb before being sent to a slaughterhouse


(in that building he had been shooting at people in all directions, while the other one had been slicing ...)



(tajikstan should be able to provide a lot more info. about these people's background.)


However, this video depicts the capture of one of these terrorists in the Bryansk region. The terrorist attempted to escape through the forest towards the border with Ukraine.

As several channels and commentators have already observed, the migrant who callously killed unarmed individuals in the concert hall was eventually found lying on the ground, howling pitifully in the entire vicinity.

An important detail: all this occurred even before the release of graphic footage of the execution at Crocus Hall, filmed by the militants themselves. At that moment, the fighters who apprehended the terrorist had not yet viewed the footage.

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如果他们视死如归而且不是为了钱去杀人,那他们就很可能是ISIS的“正式”/固定成员。

但他们似乎都不是。在被追的过程中还把武器从车里向外扔掉(似乎在表示不做抵抗?)。

由于发生了上述情况,让不少人觉得不是isis策动的可能性的确不低。比如这种可能:被乌克兰方某些人(不一定是官方,甚至不一定是乌克兰人)在网上冒充isis然后与isis和那些人牵线。。。同时高度地掩盖自己。

尽管如此,被isis策动的可能性还是比较高。



不管怎么说,,,,在幕后者(可能永远都没法被查出)没有被认定之前,出于真实情况或只是出于某种现时需要,
西方和乌克兰肯定是要坚持说与他方(尤其乌克兰)的人无关,
而俄方会反过来,会直接或间接地说与乌克兰有关(比如放大他们往乌克兰跑的一种可能动机)。
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