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#1 [转自Quora]Is getting into MIT worth it?

发表于 : 2024年 8月 21日 11:50
pplar
Is getting into MIT worth it?

Felix Schmidt (Studied at MIT)

I went to MIT and if I could give myself an advice in doing it over again it would have been: “take it easy”. MIT recruits extremely talented kids, and also some kids that simply are a few years ahead in their educational process. What I mean is that once you get there, some of your colleagues are at a Junior-Senior year level when you might be struggling with your freshmen classes. You need to take it easy, discover who you are and what you can do, and MIT offers all the tools and the time for you to excel. Undergrads at MIT have an arrogant petulant attitude of being “smart” and taking advanced over-complicated courses early on. Two of the most successful people who went to MIT the same time I did were normal students who took the normal classes at their own pace and they are now incredibly successful people. While other students were trying to show off and take miserable over-complicated versions of the institute requirements, these two girls took their time, step by step: one is the founder of a successful company and the other a famous personality at NASA.

Go to MIT, but take it easy. And USE MIT early on. Use MIT’s network to do internships in industry and so on: MIT is awful at helping unemployed alumni, so build your network early on. In other words, build your bridges while at MIT: you will do yourself a huge favor in the future. One advice: don’t UROP in summers, instead get industry internships. UROPs are “Undergraduate Research Oportunities” where you work in the labs of the fancy professors. Do those during the semester or over IAP. If you are in engineering, please use your summer in a real company.

For some more negative considerations.

If you can go to a good technical university in Europe, I have news for you: it’s the same level, you will be as good as MIT engineers and scientists or whatever without paying an unjustifiable fee for it. At the undergraduate level, there is no reason to “go to MIT” besides wanting to do so. If you want to go to MIT: do it - don’t rationalise it.

A few critical observations. MIT has a bad habit of butchering some of its traditional fields because of how professors are recruited. A Professor at MIT is at the very top of his buzzword-dominated niche in research. It so happens that such people are not necessarily equipped or experienced to teach students anything about how an automobile operates, how steel is produced, how a bridge is structured and so on. For example, I was at MIT when they terminated course 13: Naval Engineering. If you want to be a Naval Engineer, the answer is easy - don’t go to MIT. If you want a solid education in mining and metallurgy, you are better off in the Colorado School of Mines, don’t bother with a place like MIT. This seems to not be an issue in Physics, Mathematics and Chemistry, but does affect the engineering departments. Your MechE professor at MIT probably never stepped foot in industry, doesn’t know how a screw is produced but he is churning papers in Nature and Science about the mechanical behaviour of red blood cells. This person will try to teach you Mechanical Engineering…it’s something to think about.

It’s a good school, I spent some of my happiest years there. But don’t fall in the trap of comparing yourself to the Wunderkinder they recruit and stay vigilant of how MIT can help you in the real world rather than focusing on the MIT bubble itself.

#2 Re: [转自Quora]Is getting into MIT worth it?

发表于 : 2024年 8月 21日 13:27
cng
打鐵還需自身硬。

#3 Re: [转自Quora]Is getting into MIT worth it?

发表于 : 2024年 8月 21日 13:39
pplar
cng 写了: 2024年 8月 21日 13:27 打鐵還需自身硬。
娃的成长的确是个过程。

高中毕业,能被名校录取肯定是一个惊喜。

进入大学,特别是象M这种硬核名校,力不从心者众多。为自己争取一个好的发展空间,需要持续的努力。

大学阶段,需要准备的东西,需要做的决定,确实是千头万绪。

大学毕业了,大家也就各奔东西。

十年,甚至几十年之后,有各种成功的,各种失败的。

#4 Re: [转自Quora]Is getting into MIT worth it?

发表于 : 2024年 8月 21日 13:52
pplar
毕业后读PhD的数量有上升趋势。

娃娃的朋友,毕业后绝大部分读博去了。

#5 Re: [转自Quora]Is getting into MIT worth it?

发表于 : 2024年 8月 21日 14:40
robot2022
pplar 写了: 2024年 8月 21日 13:39 娃的成长的确是个过程。

高中毕业,能被名校录取肯定是一个惊喜。

进入大学,特别是象M这种硬核名校,力不从心者众多。为自己争取一个好的发展空间,需要持续的努力。

大学阶段,需要准备的东西,需要做的决定,确实是千头万绪。

大学毕业了,大家也就各奔东西。

十年,甚至几十年之后,有各种成功的,各种失败的。
Getting into MIT当然worth it
这居然是个问题
问题是怎么get in啊

你帖子里说大学需要做很多决定
有啥决定可做啊?

#6 Re: [转自Quora]Is getting into MIT worth it?

发表于 : 2024年 8月 21日 14:57
pplar
robot2022 写了: 2024年 8月 21日 14:40 Getting into MIT当然worth it
这居然是个问题
问题是怎么get in啊

你帖子里说大学需要做很多决定
有啥决定可做啊?
问得好 :D

随便举几个例子:

如果毕业后想马上工作,就要开始刷题找intern;

如果毕业后想继续读博,就要立刻着手找教授/实验室做研究和各种如关的ECs;

如果毕业后想要读医,就要马上找教授/实验室做研究,安排相关的Shadowing, 报名进premed program, 各种ECs, Leadership, 准备MCAT, …

如果毕业后想要去法学院,就要着手准备法学院入当考试,报名参加相关的Clubs, 参与各种见习,…

如果毕业后想要去商学院,最好安排与无题兄聊聊 :lol:

#7 Re: [转自Quora]Is getting into MIT worth it?

发表于 : 2024年 8月 21日 15:49
cng
畢業後繼續打遊戲要怎麼準備?

#8 Re: [转自Quora]Is getting into MIT worth it?

发表于 : 2024年 8月 21日 15:57
pplar
cng 写了: 2024年 8月 21日 15:49 畢業後繼續打遊戲要怎麼準備?
有些游戏爱好者,在大学边学习,边打游戏。

有一种职业叫游戏体验师,在家工作,工资也不菲 :D

可以跟游戏开发商或游戏平台开发/服务商(多是大型互联网公司)联系。

#9 Re: [转自Quora]Is getting into MIT worth it?

发表于 : 2024年 8月 21日 16:17
Bluesky
pplar 写了: 2024年 8月 21日 15:57 有些游戏爱好者,在大学边学习,边打游戏。

有一种职业叫游戏体验师,在家工作,工资也不菲 :D

可以跟游戏开发商或游戏平台开发/服务商(多是大型互联网公司)联系。
爱好成了专业,是痛苦的;专业成了爱好,是幸福的。

#10 Re: [转自Quora]Is getting into MIT worth it?

发表于 : 2024年 8月 21日 16:33
pplar
Bluesky 写了: 2024年 8月 21日 16:17 爱好成了专业,是痛苦的;专业成了爱好,是幸福的。
这话说的

很有哲理 :D

#11 Re: [转自Quora]Is getting into MIT worth it?

发表于 : 2024年 8月 22日 02:48
rihai
只要不差钱肯定选去藤校, 何况是T5
吨吨吨

pplar 写了: 2024年 8月 21日 11:50 Is getting into MIT worth it?

Felix Schmidt (Studied at MIT)

I went to MIT and if I could give myself an advice in doing it over again it would have been: “take it easy”. MIT recruits extremely talented kids, and also some kids that simply are a few years ahead in their educational process. What I mean is that once you get there, some of your colleagues are at a Junior-Senior year level when you might be struggling with your freshmen classes. You need to take it easy, discover who you are and what you can do, and MIT offers all the tools and the time for you to excel. Undergrads at MIT have an arrogant petulant attitude of being “smart” and taking advanced over-complicated courses early on. Two of the most successful people who went to MIT the same time I did were normal students who took the normal classes at their own pace and they are now incredibly successful people. While other students were trying to show off and take miserable over-complicated versions of the institute requirements, these two girls took their time, step by step: one is the founder of a successful company and the other a famous personality at NASA.

Go to MIT, but take it easy. And USE MIT early on. Use MIT’s network to do internships in industry and so on: MIT is awful at helping unemployed alumni, so build your network early on. In other words, build your bridges while at MIT: you will do yourself a huge favor in the future. One advice: don’t UROP in summers, instead get industry internships. UROPs are “Undergraduate Research Oportunities” where you work in the labs of the fancy professors. Do those during the semester or over IAP. If you are in engineering, please use your summer in a real company.

For some more negative considerations.

If you can go to a good technical university in Europe, I have news for you: it’s the same level, you will be as good as MIT engineers and scientists or whatever without paying an unjustifiable fee for it. At the undergraduate level, there is no reason to “go to MIT” besides wanting to do so. If you want to go to MIT: do it - don’t rationalise it.

A few critical observations. MIT has a bad habit of butchering some of its traditional fields because of how professors are recruited. A Professor at MIT is at the very top of his buzzword-dominated niche in research. It so happens that such people are not necessarily equipped or experienced to teach students anything about how an automobile operates, how steel is produced, how a bridge is structured and so on. For example, I was at MIT when they terminated course 13: Naval Engineering. If you want to be a Naval Engineer, the answer is easy - don’t go to MIT. If you want a solid education in mining and metallurgy, you are better off in the Colorado School of Mines, don’t bother with a place like MIT. This seems to not be an issue in Physics, Mathematics and Chemistry, but does affect the engineering departments. Your MechE professor at MIT probably never stepped foot in industry, doesn’t know how a screw is produced but he is churning papers in Nature and Science about the mechanical behaviour of red blood cells. This person will try to teach you Mechanical Engineering…it’s something to think about.

It’s a good school, I spent some of my happiest years there. But don’t fall in the trap of comparing yourself to the Wunderkinder they recruit and stay vigilant of how MIT can help you in the real world rather than focusing on the MIT bubble itself.

#12 Re: [转自Quora]Is getting into MIT worth it?

发表于 : 2024年 8月 22日 08:35
pplar
rihai 写了: 2024年 8月 22日 02:48 只要不差钱肯定选去藤校, 何况是T5
吨吨吨
没看明白 :?:

#13 Re: [转自Quora]Is getting into MIT worth it?

发表于 : 2024年 8月 22日 16:45
noles
rihai 写了: 2024年 8月 22日 02:48 只要不差钱肯定选去藤校, 何况是T5
吨吨吨
MIT FA是不是 need based 还是 merit based?

#14 Re: [转自Quora]Is getting into MIT worth it?

发表于 : 2024年 8月 22日 16:50
pathdream
pplar 写了: 2024年 8月 21日 13:52 毕业后读PhD的数量有上升趋势。

娃娃的朋友,毕业后绝大部分读博去了。
博士拿来干嘛? 不如认识很多有钱的

#15 Re: [转自Quora]Is getting into MIT worth it?

发表于 : 2024年 8月 23日 09:10
tennis101
说的很好,人生很长,踏踏实实一步一步来。
pplar 写了: 2024年 8月 21日 11:50 Is getting into MIT worth it?

Felix Schmidt (Studied at MIT)

I went to MIT and if I could give myself an advice in doing it over again it would have been: “take it easy”. MIT recruits extremely talented kids, and also some kids that simply are a few years ahead in their educational process. What I mean is that once you get there, some of your colleagues are at a Junior-Senior year level when you might be struggling with your freshmen classes. You need to take it easy, discover who you are and what you can do, and MIT offers all the tools and the time for you to excel. Undergrads at MIT have an arrogant petulant attitude of being “smart” and taking advanced over-complicated courses early on. Two of the most successful people who went to MIT the same time I did were normal students who took the normal classes at their own pace and they are now incredibly successful people. While other students were trying to show off and take miserable over-complicated versions of the institute requirements, these two girls took their time, step by step: one is the founder of a successful company and the other a famous personality at NASA.

Go to MIT, but take it easy. And USE MIT early on. Use MIT’s network to do internships in industry and so on: MIT is awful at helping unemployed alumni, so build your network early on. In other words, build your bridges while at MIT: you will do yourself a huge favor in the future. One advice: don’t UROP in summers, instead get industry internships. UROPs are “Undergraduate Research Oportunities” where you work in the labs of the fancy professors. Do those during the semester or over IAP. If you are in engineering, please use your summer in a real company.

For some more negative considerations.

If you can go to a good technical university in Europe, I have news for you: it’s the same level, you will be as good as MIT engineers and scientists or whatever without paying an unjustifiable fee for it. At the undergraduate level, there is no reason to “go to MIT” besides wanting to do so. If you want to go to MIT: do it - don’t rationalise it.

A few critical observations. MIT has a bad habit of butchering some of its traditional fields because of how professors are recruited. A Professor at MIT is at the very top of his buzzword-dominated niche in research. It so happens that such people are not necessarily equipped or experienced to teach students anything about how an automobile operates, how steel is produced, how a bridge is structured and so on. For example, I was at MIT when they terminated course 13: Naval Engineering. If you want to be a Naval Engineer, the answer is easy - don’t go to MIT. If you want a solid education in mining and metallurgy, you are better off in the Colorado School of Mines, don’t bother with a place like MIT. This seems to not be an issue in Physics, Mathematics and Chemistry, but does affect the engineering departments. Your MechE professor at MIT probably never stepped foot in industry, doesn’t know how a screw is produced but he is churning papers in Nature and Science about the mechanical behaviour of red blood cells. This person will try to teach you Mechanical Engineering…it’s something to think about.

It’s a good school, I spent some of my happiest years there. But don’t fall in the trap of comparing yourself to the Wunderkinder they recruit and stay vigilant of how MIT can help you in the real world rather than focusing on the MIT bubble itself.