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只是把车从一角顶起来，车身形变竟然严重到把座舱玻璃挤裂了！记得以前老站的啥猫经常拿这个黑奔驰。

https://www.pacificaforums.com/threads/ ... ues.41181/

- Windshield stress crack. I was changing the oil this weekend (just before 10,000 miles). It was mid-low thirties out and I was doing it in front of but outside of my garage since it is always full of some other project. I jacked up the driver side at the correct jacking point using the factory jack. The entire weight was on the jack, but I did have a jackstand under the a-arm just in case. During the change, I kept hearing a pop/crack sound (maybe 5-6 times) and I kept checking the jack to make sure it was secure. When I was finished and I go to start it up, I noticed a crack coming from the driver side cowl and heading to the passenger side. Since then, it has completely extended to the passenger side cowl. There was no crack at all when I pulled it in the driveway and I have checked and I can find no signs of impact. I am meticulous about this van since it is the most expensive one we have ever purchased and I intended to keep it for 10 years. I notice every change. I double check the doors after someone parks too close to me as I fear door dents. I was able to find two other instances of a stress crack as well.

这种属于个别现象，没必要大惊小怪。、

不过这个车确实有一些小毛病，毕竟是Chrysler的嘛。

Pacifica 换油不用jack的。从上面换filter

除了两田，其他车不能碰。

美国市场上的mini van没什么多的选择，也就三四个吧

YouHi 写了： 2024年 9月 15日 10:07 除了两田，其他车不能碰。

得了吧，两田也没好哪去，还贵的要死。

YouHi 写了： 2024年 9月 15日 10:07 除了两田，其他车不能碰。

大型车辆还是美国车选择更多，质量也更稳定

碰撞测试怎么样

MFC 写了： 2024年 9月 14日 21:13 只是把车从一角顶起来，车身形变竟然严重到把座舱玻璃挤裂了！记得以前老站的啥猫经常拿这个黑奔驰。

https://www.pacificaforums.com/threads/ ... ues.41181/

- Windshield stress crack. I was changing the oil this weekend (just before 10,000 miles). It was mid-low thirties out and I was doing it in front of but outside of my garage since it is always full of some other project. I jacked up the driver side at the correct jacking point using the factory jack. The entire weight was on the jack, but I did have a jackstand under the a-arm just in case. During the change, I kept hearing a pop/crack sound (maybe 5-6 times) and I kept checking the jack to make sure it was secure. When I was finished and I go to start it up, I noticed a crack coming from the driver side cowl and heading to the passenger side. Since then, it has completely extended to the passenger side cowl. There was no crack at all when I pulled it in the driveway and I have checked and I can find no signs of impact. I am meticulous about this van since it is the most expensive one we have ever purchased and I intended to keep it for 10 years. I notice every change. I double check the doors after someone parks too close to me as I fear door dents. I was able to find two other instances of a stress crack as well.

本田奥德赛这么烂的车也有人舔，估计这辈子它只开过本田

geniushanbiao 写了： 2024年 9月 14日 22:39 这种属于个别现象，没必要大惊小怪。、

不过这个车确实有一些小毛病，毕竟是Chrysler的嘛。

车身形变到把玻璃都挤裂了明显是是设计缺陷
在其论坛里出现过多次

这车只要没碰上质量问题，用起来是真爽，可惜了

当年我单边顶起Subaru outback，车门就打不开了

MFC 写了： 2024年 9月 14日 21:13 只是把车从一角顶起来，车身形变竟然严重到把座舱玻璃挤裂了！记得以前老站的啥猫经常拿这个黑奔驰。

https://www.pacificaforums.com/threads/ ... ues.41181/

- Windshield stress crack. I was changing the oil this weekend (just before 10,000 miles). It was mid-low thirties out and I was doing it in front of but outside of my garage since it is always full of some other project. I jacked up the driver side at the correct jacking point using the factory jack. The entire weight was on the jack, but I did have a jackstand under the a-arm just in case. During the change, I kept hearing a pop/crack sound (maybe 5-6 times) and I kept checking the jack to make sure it was secure. When I was finished and I go to start it up, I noticed a crack coming from the driver side cowl and heading to the passenger side. Since then, it has completely extended to the passenger side cowl. There was no crack at all when I pulled it in the driveway and I have checked and I can find no signs of impact. I am meticulous about this van since it is the most expensive one we have ever purchased and I intended to keep it for 10 years. I notice every change. I double check the doors after someone parks too close to me as I fear door dents. I was able to find two other instances of a stress crack as well.

为啥顶一侧呢 我记得我顶车的时候都是顶中间啊？

YouHi 写了： 2024年 9月 15日 10:07 除了两田，其他车不能碰。

第三田怎么了？

Pacifca有个迷人的Plug-in Hybrid版，纯电里程是30+miles，MPG是30
也就是每天如果接娃，不跑长途的话，可以几个月不用加油。这也是市场上唯一的Plug-in Hybrid Minivan
还能拿联邦和州的tax incentive

但是！这个型号有个致命伤。就是变速箱超容易坏。而且是在路中间坏，已经有人因此在高速上熄火被撞死了
Chrysler一直没有说明坏的原因，给出的解决方案是，马上要坏的时候，给你几分钟的提醒，让你把车停到路边等待救援。然后把变速箱的保修延长了。
Facebook上有人发起过投票，发现坏的几率高达25%，不分制造年份
Chrysler至少在2022年已经发现这个问题，他们提供的保修也仅仅给2023年2月之前出厂的车子。问题是之后生产的车子也一样坏。
我觉得Chrysler从来没有发现过坏的原因。不太像是变速箱自己的原因，因为同样的变速箱厂也给Toyota供货
这种随机次品率高，更像是生产环节品控差。也就是Chrysler的工人工作不认真，制造了各种次品。

我们以前一直说要买一辆minivan，去试驾了一下Sienna果断放弃了，中间/后排乘坐体验很差，晃，甩得厉害。现在买车还要等6-12个月拿车，

这车出去玩租过1次hybrid, 底盘低，刹车软，不如搞个durango。

shale 写了： 2024年 9月 17日 11:49 Pacifca有个迷人的Plug-in Hybrid版，纯电里程是30+miles，MPG是30
也就是每天如果接娃，不跑长途的话，可以几个月不用加油。这也是市场上唯一的Plug-in Hybrid Minivan
还能拿联邦和州的tax incentive

但是！这个型号有个致命伤。就是变速箱超容易坏。而且是在路中间坏，已经有人因此在高速上熄火被撞死了
Chrysler一直没有说明坏的原因，给出的解决方案是，马上要坏的时候，给你几分钟的提醒，让你把车停到路边等待救援。然后把变速箱的保修延长了。
Facebook上有人发起过投票，发现坏的几率高达25%，不分制造年份
Chrysler至少在2022年已经发现这个问题，他们提供的保修也仅仅给2023年2月之前出厂的车子。问题是之后生产的车子也一样坏。
我觉得Chrysler从来没有发现过坏的原因。不太像是变速箱自己的原因，因为同样的变速箱厂也给Toyota供货
这种随机次品率高，更像是生产环节品控差。也就是Chrysler的工人工作不认真，制造了各种次品。

blob 写了： 2024年 9月 17日 11:54 我们以前一直说要买一辆minivan，去试驾了一下Sienna果断放弃了，中间/后排乘坐体验很差，晃，甩得厉害。现在买车还要等6-12个月拿车，

如果注重驾驶、行驶品质的话，Sienna是烂中之烂：隔音稀烂，浑身异响（新车就这样），为了节省成本副车架和车架之间没有busing而是刚性连接，土逼工程师又故意用硬悬挂大轮圈装逼，过一个小坑整辆车到处乱响，像个破锣被踹了一脚：

https://www.siennachat.com/threads/inte ... 9/#replies

I chose Toyotas because of their vault-like quietness. I’ve experienced this in mostly Camrys of various years.
Excuse the gripes in the following post.
Enter the 2021 Sienna. Holy sh!t this thing is noisy. Hard plastic on hard plastic, great job.

Middle seat squeak - Some have it, some miraculously don’t. I have it in one seat (driver) and not the other. Sounds like a rat gnawing on metal as I drive. I posted about this before, tried to fix, same result. Sprayed some dry lube to the linkage and taped the wires. Still squeaks. Pulling the rear latch loop quiets it down. I’m about to tie a string from the loop to the mid back hook to keep a tension on it. Then I found it might be the child seat hooks between the seat bottom and back making that noise. Anyone have instructions on how to take the seat apart (not out of the car or the bottom plastic cover)? I want to do some further checks but have no idea how the seat comes apart.

Front driver side suspension boot - Ye ol boat noise, like i’m sailing the seas when I backup. No fix yet. This should happen on cars GM makes, not Toyota, but yeah they share suppliers.

Door seals - Another version of Ye ol boat noise. I have a steep driveway and whenever I drive up from a turn, the entire chassis flexes. BTW, Great chassis, Toyota. The TNGA is stiff. Right. The Sienna rides like a truck, ever ride in the back? Front soft, back stiff, yet that rear cannot hold a tow. Anyway, all door seals need to be lubed. I got a lube made specifically for door seal lubes, claims German cars need it, and so far it has quiet it down, till the next wash or it dries.

And someone found with the OBD tool that Toyota feeds engine noise through the speakers. Just awesome.

shale 写了： 2024年 9月 17日 11:49 Pacifca有个迷人的Plug-in Hybrid版，纯电里程是30+miles，MPG是30
也就是每天如果接娃，不跑长途的话，可以几个月不用加油。这也是市场上唯一的Plug-in Hybrid Minivan
还能拿联邦和州的tax incentive

但是！这个型号有个致命伤。就是变速箱超容易坏。而且是在路中间坏，已经有人因此在高速上熄火被撞死了
Chrysler一直没有说明坏的原因，给出的解决方案是，马上要坏的时候，给你几分钟的提醒，让你把车停到路边等待救援。然后把变速箱的保修延长了。
Facebook上有人发起过投票，发现坏的几率高达25%，不分制造年份
Chrysler至少在2022年已经发现这个问题，他们提供的保修也仅仅给2023年2月之前出厂的车子。问题是之后生产的车子也一样坏。
我觉得Chrysler从来没有发现过坏的原因。不太像是变速箱自己的原因，因为同样的变速箱厂也给Toyota供货
这种随机次品率高，更像是生产环节品控差。也就是Chrysler的工人工作不认真，制造了各种次品。

The 2017–2023 model Chrysler Pacifica Hybrid minivan has a potential issue with a transmission wiring connector that has led to a recall of 76,000 of the vehicles worldwide, 67,000 of which are in the U.S., Reuters reported today.
The problem could cause unexpected engine shutdown, Stellantis said.
The recall will include an update to the power inverter software and a potential instrument panel software update as well.

就是以前 Grand Caravan 的升级版本