完了，UCB的Job Market崩溃了（特指马工）

[swanswan]

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43001408

I work in administration at UC Berkeley, and I need to say this: something is deeply broken.
For years, Berkeley’s Computer Science program was a direct pipeline to top-tier tech jobs. Didn’t matter if you were just "above average"—if you made it through, you'd land a solid job with a great salary. But now? I’m watching some of the most brilliant students, the ones with perfect 4.0 GPAs, prestigious internships, and research experience, graduate with nothing. No offers. No interviews. Just radio silence. Professors are noticing it too. Students who should be drowning in job offers are instead emailing their advisors in a panic: “What do I do now?” “Should I apply for grad school?” “Was this all a waste?”

And here’s the part that really scares me—this isn’t just a temporary downturn. The people who should know what’s going on—our faculty, career services, recruiters—have no answers. They just keep telling students to “network more” or “apply to startups.” But those startups? They’re laying people off too. The harsh reality is that a UC Berkeley CS degree is no longer a ticket to job security. The system that promised students a clear path to success is breaking down, and the people in charge are too scared to admit it.

I don’t know how this plays out, but I do know this: If you’re a student banking on a Berkeley degree to guarantee your future, you need a backup plan. Because the old rules don’t apply anymore.

The question is—what happens when the smartest students in the country realize the system has failed them?

[fulvshou]

米滑abc彻底傻眼了

[swanswan]

4.0gpa没offer没面试

[firecloud]

现在伯克利cs一年招几千人吧，弄这么多人进来怪谁

[rihai]

颗粒的就业得到2027年才能转好
2027年CS学生少于700
吨吨吨

现在伯克利cs一年招几千人吧，弄这么多人进来怪谁

[xiaxia]

antih1bmaga 2 days ago | prev | next [–]

The problem is the H1Bs flooding the market in an unsustainable way.

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bdangubic 2 days ago | parent | next [–]

yea, the percentage of H1Bs is so big compared to the market that we will soon be shutting down all higher ed facilities

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antih1bmaga 2 days ago | root | parent | next [–]

Well higher ed is one of the biggest lobbyists for the H1B program.

Foreigners come here on student visas, pay the universities international tuition rates with no aid, get their degrees, and then convert to H1B. So it would be interesting to see how that plays out.

[我的叔叔于勒]

猩门工程的本质是通过建立大量联网的AI数据和计算中心 取代所有的白领岗位 五千亿的投资来自各大公司的白领裁员 节省下来的花费

白领岗位消失以后 各个大穴都破产倒闭 西方资本主义社会会慢慢回到十八世纪欧粥的状态

现在正在大穴里上学的本科生 研究生 在未来的五到十年内基本会全部失业

这些大穴的校董们都很清楚这件事 现在就是骗最后几波穴费 准备跑路了

[yokel]

阿三占领美帝
这些人的工作机会都被阿三本土垃圾学校的人占了

[dragonemp]

做了intern,然后拿不到return offer......只能说明那人的4.0水分很大
用intern的目的就是看那人有没有可能有资格被雇佣回来，而不是找临时工干杂活，intern的时间段，基本上贡献是负的，因为你需要让资深员工消耗时间来带。

[ironchef]

猩门工程的本质是通过建立大量联网的AI数据和计算中心 取代所有的白领岗位 五千亿的投资来自各大公司的白领裁员 节省下来的花费

白领岗位消失以后 各个大穴都破产倒闭 西方资本主义社会会慢慢回到十八世纪欧粥的状态

现在正在大穴里上学的本科生 研究生 在未来的五到十年内基本会全部失业

这些大穴的校董们都很清楚这件事 现在就是骗最后几波穴费 准备跑路了

cs已经饱和，以后大量学生毕业后得去做科研，比如生物，医学，机器人...

[da1gaku]

美国虽然第二产业不行，但还是需要人学机械化工电机之类的
生化环材也是
美国仅有的那点理工aptitude强的人都学cs了，以后怎么发展技术

[Buyee]

美国虽然第二产业不行，但还是需要人学机械化工电机之类的
生化环材也是
美国仅有的那点理工aptitude强的人都学cs了，以后怎么发展技术

没办法，CS包裹比机械类好太多了。斯坦福本科毕业生规模虽小，也有16%(有说18%)是CS。

[starbox]

做了intern,然后拿不到return offer......只能说明那人的4.0水分很大
用intern的目的就是看那人有没有可能有资格被雇佣回来，而不是找临时工干杂活，intern的时间段，基本上贡献是负的，因为你需要让资深员工消耗时间来带。

年景不好，很多公司出台了return offer freeze的政策，

这年头公司也狼狈，不仅无力再雇intern，连老员工也需要大量layoff

[starbox]

现在伯克利cs一年招几千人吧，弄这么多人进来怪谁

谁让你码工没有工会，

如果哪个医学院敢招这么多，医生行会早雇马飞把这个school给砸了

[Fuck]

整体就业形势 都不好吧

[pepper]

是毕业就大公司20万的工作没了，但5万的还是随便找，只是这帮人被惯坏了看不上

[lwangls]

有的美国大学一半新生都是CS的，中国大学就不敢这么干

[Havana]

五万的工作何必去上大学

是毕业就大公司20万的工作没了，但5万的还是随便找，只是这帮人被惯坏了看不上

[pepper]

五万的工作何必去上大学

不上大学一辈子5万

[Havana]

学个手艺慢慢做下来也不止五万

不上大学一辈子5万