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#1 NSF和NIH的budget还没有出来,不要道听途说

发表于 : 2025年 7月 25日 22:33
pinwheel
目前的进展大约是:两院的共识和川普的初始设想相去甚远。

NSF:去年大约是90亿的预算。参院提议缩减16million,众院提议缩减20亿。两个都和川普希望的缩减50亿相去甚远。

NIH:目前还没有公布预算。川普希望的是38%的cut。

https://www.insidehighered.com/news/gov ... nce-budget

In a July 10 Senate Appropriations Committee meeting, legislators put forth a cut to the National Science Foundation (NSF) of only $16 million compared to the more than $5 billion proposed by Trump. Four days later, a House Appropriations Committee subcommittee suggested slashing $2 billion—less than half of Trump’s proposal.

Alessandra Zimmermann, budget analyst and senior manager for the American Association for the Advancement of Science’s R&D Budget and Policy Program, highlighted in a statement the Senate’s proposal and noted that the House’s over 20 percent proposed cut to NSF is still “a much smaller decrease than the Administration’s initial request.”

“This shows that there is bipartisan support for investing in basic research, and putting the U.S. on track for FY26,” Zimmermann said. “The story of the future of science is still being written, and we appreciate the strong support from Congress.”

“R&D money goes all over the country,” Pielke said. “… It does kind of have a built-in support structure.”

He said the NSF, which focuses on basic research, may be more insulated from political fights than agencies such as the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, which deals with climate science, and the National Institutes of Health, which deals with vaccines. The congressional appropriations committees haven’t yet indicated what they plan to do with Trump’s proposed 38 percent cut to the NIH.

But, Pielke noted, “in this day and age, everything can be politicized.”

#2 Re: NSF和NIH的budget还没有出来,不要道听途说

发表于 : 2025年 7月 25日 22:36
pinwheel
本中将的估计是:川普的目的不是为了砍budget,实际上是用这个预算作为工具来要挟那些私立学校。现在哥大服软了,估计各个学校会一一服软,然后最后面预算可能和去年相差不大。
pinwheel 写了: 2025年 7月 25日 22:33 目前的进展大约是:两院的共识和川普的初始设想相去甚远。

NSF:去年大约是90亿的预算。参院提议缩减16million,众院提议缩减20亿。两个都和川普希望的缩减50亿相去甚远。

NIH:目前还没有公布预算。川普希望的是38%的cut。

https://www.insidehighered.com/news/gov ... nce-budget

In a July 10 Senate Appropriations Committee meeting, legislators put forth a cut to the National Science Foundation (NSF) of only $16 million compared to the more than $5 billion proposed by Trump. Four days later, a House Appropriations Committee subcommittee suggested slashing $2 billion—less than half of Trump’s proposal.

Alessandra Zimmermann, budget analyst and senior manager for the American Association for the Advancement of Science’s R&D Budget and Policy Program, highlighted in a statement the Senate’s proposal and noted that the House’s over 20 percent proposed cut to NSF is still “a much smaller decrease than the Administration’s initial request.”

“This shows that there is bipartisan support for investing in basic research, and putting the U.S. on track for FY26,” Zimmermann said. “The story of the future of science is still being written, and we appreciate the strong support from Congress.”

“R&D money goes all over the country,” Pielke said. “… It does kind of have a built-in support structure.”

He said the NSF, which focuses on basic research, may be more insulated from political fights than agencies such as the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, which deals with climate science, and the National Institutes of Health, which deals with vaccines. The congressional appropriations committees haven’t yet indicated what they plan to do with Trump’s proposed 38 percent cut to the NIH.

But, Pielke noted, “in this day and age, everything can be politicized.”

#3 Re: NSF和NIH的budget还没有出来,不要道听途说

发表于 : 2025年 7月 25日 22:36
rihai
payline cut已经4%了
眼瞅着奔0.5%去了
倭杂李柱, 双赢虎桑 还骗得到钱吗?
LOL

pinwheel 写了: 2025年 7月 25日 22:33 目前的进展大约是:两院的共识和川普的初始设想相去甚远。

NSF:去年大约是90亿的预算。参院提议缩减16million,众院提议缩减20亿。两个都和川普希望的缩减50亿相去甚远。

NIH:目前还没有公布预算。川普希望的是38%的cut。

https://www.insidehighered.com/news/gov ... nce-budget

In a July 10 Senate Appropriations Committee meeting, legislators put forth a cut to the National Science Foundation (NSF) of only $16 million compared to the more than $5 billion proposed by Trump. Four days later, a House Appropriations Committee subcommittee suggested slashing $2 billion—less than half of Trump’s proposal.

Alessandra Zimmermann, budget analyst and senior manager for the American Association for the Advancement of Science’s R&D Budget and Policy Program, highlighted in a statement the Senate’s proposal and noted that the House’s over 20 percent proposed cut to NSF is still “a much smaller decrease than the Administration’s initial request.”

“This shows that there is bipartisan support for investing in basic research, and putting the U.S. on track for FY26,” Zimmermann said. “The story of the future of science is still being written, and we appreciate the strong support from Congress.”

“R&D money goes all over the country,” Pielke said. “… It does kind of have a built-in support structure.”

He said the NSF, which focuses on basic research, may be more insulated from political fights than agencies such as the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, which deals with climate science, and the National Institutes of Health, which deals with vaccines. The congressional appropriations committees haven’t yet indicated what they plan to do with Trump’s proposed 38 percent cut to the NIH.

But, Pielke noted, “in this day and age, everything can be politicized.”

#4 Re: NSF和NIH的budget还没有出来,不要道听途说

发表于 : 2025年 7月 25日 22:41
我的叔叔于勒
pinwheel 写了: 2025年 7月 25日 22:36 本中将的估计是:川普的目的不是为了砍budget,实际上是用这个预算作为工具来要挟那些私立学校。现在哥大服软了,估计各个学校会一一服软,然后最后面预算可能和去年相差不大。
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#5 Re: NSF和NIH的budget还没有出来,不要道听途说

发表于 : 2025年 7月 25日 22:43
irisyuan
预算啥时候出结果?

#6 Re: NSF和NIH的budget还没有出来,不要道听途说

发表于 : 2025年 7月 25日 22:44
pinwheel
这篇报道里面说的是还有数月的协商时间,直到10月1日新财年开始之前。

Congress still has months of negotiations before the start of the next fiscal year on Oct. 1
irisyuan 写了: 2025年 7月 25日 22:43 预算啥时候出结果?

#7 Re: NSF和NIH的budget还没有出来,不要道听途说

发表于 : 2025年 7月 25日 22:53
pinwheel
发现新买提的一大缺点,好多人都喜欢听信谣言又不去查证。以后提议发新闻或者数据的时候提供可靠链接,不然很容易引起混乱,或者基于道听途说起了一大高楼,让人啼笑皆非。

#8 Re: NSF和NIH的budget还没有出来,不要道听途说

发表于 : 2025年 7月 25日 22:53
irisyuan
pinwheel 写了: 2025年 7月 25日 22:44 这篇报道里面说的是还有数月的协商时间,直到10月1日新财年开始之前。

Congress still has months of negotiations before the start of the next fiscal year on Oct. 1
擦,谈不拢是不是还要停摆?
我估计最后不可能砍川普想得那么多,也不可能像这里说的就砍十几个m,估计20%-25%还是有的。

#9 Re: NSF和NIH的budget还没有出来,不要道听途说

发表于 : 2025年 7月 25日 22:56
pinwheel
共和党一统两院,不太可能停摆;一般停摆发生在两院多数以及总统分属不同党派。现在的情况看起来只不过是做戏而已:数字可上可下,最后根据各个大学的妥协情况而定。

目前来看的话,很多学校的政策已经在向川普靠拢,比如说DEI政策,还有LBGTQIAS+政策。所以我猜测最后总的budget会差别不大(可能会小幅度下降,因为DEI之类的项目会被取消),但是在政策上不妥协的学校会受到funding上面的限制。

https://www.chronicle.com/article/track ... ing-of-dei
https://thehill.com/homenews/lgbtq/5384 ... -athletes/
irisyuan 写了: 2025年 7月 25日 22:53 擦,谈不拢是不是还要停摆?
我估计最后不可能砍川普想得那么多,也不可能像这里说的就砍十几个m,估计20%-25%还是有的。