俄对美英德法波乌等战争之Bakhmut之战，和然后，和中国，和宇宙，和其他
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Macron’s fruitful visit shows resuming all-level exchanges ‘main tone’ of 2023 China-EU ties
Resuming all-level exchanges ‘main tone’ after Macron’s fruitful visit
European leaders were wrapping up their three-day visit to China after Chinese and French top leaders met for informal talks in southern China's Guangzhou on Friday, marking the climax in high-level interactions between China and Europe. The visit also helped stabilize relations amid growing turbulence and uncertainties that the world is facing and reset the cooperation as well as face-to-face interaction, as China reached some consensus with both France and the EU on major global and regional issues, including the Ukraine crisis.
Chinese President Xi Jinping met French President Emmanuel Macron in Guangzhou's Songyuan on Friday afternoon and had an informal meeting with the French leader.
Xi said that over the past two days, the two sides have had in-depth and high quality exchanges in Beijing and Guangzhou, South China's Guangdong Province, increased understanding and mutual trust, and clarified the direction for future cooperation between China and France at bilateral and international levels.
"I am glad that we share many common or similar views on China-France, China-EU relations as well as many international and regional issues, reflecting the high level and strategic nature of China-French relations," Xi said, noting that he is willing to continue maintaining strategic communication and advance China-France comprehensive strategic partnership to a new high level.
Macron said the visit was very successful and yielded fruitful results, which will help advance France-China relations for more progress. The French leader said he is willing to maintain close strategic communication with Xi, and welcomes Xi to visit France in 2024.
The two sides also released a joint declaration on Friday, vowing to enhance political dialogues and boost political mutual trust, jointly promote global security and stability, advance economic exchanges and restart people-to-people exchanges and jointly tackle global challenges.
"Such high-level reception to Macron during his visit also showed our diplomatic courtesy, and that our deeds accord with our words," Cui Hongjian, director of the Department of European Studies at the China Institute of International Studies, told the Global Times on Friday.
China values France's tradition of independence and its important role in advancing the multi-polar world, and that respect was underscored by the hospitality he received in China, Cui said.
While EU foreign policy chief Josep Borrell and German Foreign Minister Annalena Baerbock are reportedly planning to travel to China in coming weeks following the visit of Macron and European Commission chief Ursula von der Leyen this week, Chinese experts believe that more European officials coming to China also show that China's wisdom and solutions are winning more people over, and "the main tone" of China-EU relations this year is stabilizing relations, resuming all-level exchanges and turning those consensus into actions.
The three-day visit not only resulted in fruitful business deals in the fields of transport, energy, agriculture, culture and science, but also provided guidance for the future direction of China-France and China-EU relations, as leaders of both sides sought a more reasonable way of co-existing in the post-pandemic era and amid the Ukraine crisis, despite differences and competitions, experts said.
Cooperation remains priority
"It's very rare to see several EU officials come to visit China within one month, which also showed that Europe has a strong will to safeguard and develop its relations with China, although there are some different voices within the bloc," Cui said, noting that it's important to stabilize relations through such high-level interactions and reset some principles for cooperation, turning those consensuses into practice this year.
During Friday's meeting, Xi outlined China's modernization drive and welcomed the French side to actively participate in the Canton Fair, the China International Import Expo and the China International Fair for Trade in Services to further explore the Chinese market.
Although there is both cooperation and competition, there are essential differences between China-EU and China-US relations. China and the US are seeking cooperation in rivalry, but China and the EU need to properly handle their competition in cooperation. The visit by Macron and von der Leyen sent a signal that despite increased competition and differences, cooperation is still the priority, Wang Shuo, a professor at the School of International Relations of Beijing Foreign Studies University, told the Global Times on Friday.
"Both sides hope to build a relatively favorable external environment, which is the main reason for reaching the consensus and agreement," Wang said.
Over the past few years, China-EU relations have been experiencing some difficult times, especially when the US exerted more influence on the continent and even tied Europe to its chariot in confronting Russia in the Ukraine crisis.
"China-EU relations had been kidnapped by the Russia-Ukraine conflict and by the Taiwan question, but we have dismissed some misunderstandings now and dispelled some concerns during the meetings with European leaders," Wang Yiwei, director of the Institute of International Affairs at the Renmin University of China, told the Global Times on Friday.
After China released a 12-point position paper on political settlement of the Ukraine crisis and the Chinese leader visited Russia, it has become much clearer to Europe that the US won't resolve the crisis but will only fuel the fire, Wang said. He added that Europe felt disappointed by this and now pins its hopes on China, which it believes can play a positive role in helping resolve the crisis.
Ukraine crisis 'key focus'
During the meeting between Xi and Macron on Friday, the Chinese leader said the cause of the Ukraine crisis is complex and an immediate ceasefire is in line with the interests of the relevant parties and the world, adding that a political settlement is the only correct way out.
China won't handle the issue for its own interests, but always stands on the side of justice and fairness. Xi said China welcomes the solutions proposed by France on the political settlement, and is willing to support it, and play a constructive role.
Following the China-France-EU trilateral talks on Thursday, von der Leyen said the Chinese leader expressed willingness to speak to the Ukrainian leader when the time is right, according to media reports. Commenting on the matter, Chinese Foreign Ministry Spokesperson Mao Ning said on Friday that on the Ukraine issue, China maintains communication with all relevant parties, including Ukraine.
Europe's attitude toward China on the Ukraine crisis has been changing over the past year. Initially, it hoped that China could maintain the same position as Europe by condemning Russia or sanctioning it, but then followed the US rhetoric by asking China not to supply weapons to Russia or help it overcome sanctions, Cui Hongjian noted.
"After China stressed that a nuclear war cannot be fought and clarified our stance on the matter through a position paper, Europe realized that China's practical role has helped reduce the risks of nuclear war," he said, noting that the political room for China-EU cooperation in solving the Ukraine crisis has opened and they need to find more space to take future joint steps.
It is difficult for some European countries to abandon their prejudice and previous mentality to agree with China, an Asian country, in mediating the Russia-Ukraine conflict, Cui Heng, an assistant research fellow from the Center for Russian Studies of East China Normal University, told the Global Times on Friday.
"But they have realized that under the global geopolitical changes, the US is not the only center of power, as China's international influence has been witnessed. More countries have started to support China's proposal to promote negotiations," he said.
Resuming all-level exchanges ‘main tone’ after Macron’s fruitful visit
European leaders were wrapping up their three-day visit to China after Chinese and French top leaders met for informal talks in southern China's Guangzhou on Friday, marking the climax in high-level interactions between China and Europe. The visit also helped stabilize relations amid growing turbulence and uncertainties that the world is facing and reset the cooperation as well as face-to-face interaction, as China reached some consensus with both France and the EU on major global and regional issues, including the Ukraine crisis.
Chinese President Xi Jinping met French President Emmanuel Macron in Guangzhou's Songyuan on Friday afternoon and had an informal meeting with the French leader.
Xi said that over the past two days, the two sides have had in-depth and high quality exchanges in Beijing and Guangzhou, South China's Guangdong Province, increased understanding and mutual trust, and clarified the direction for future cooperation between China and France at bilateral and international levels.
"I am glad that we share many common or similar views on China-France, China-EU relations as well as many international and regional issues, reflecting the high level and strategic nature of China-French relations," Xi said, noting that he is willing to continue maintaining strategic communication and advance China-France comprehensive strategic partnership to a new high level.
Macron said the visit was very successful and yielded fruitful results, which will help advance France-China relations for more progress. The French leader said he is willing to maintain close strategic communication with Xi, and welcomes Xi to visit France in 2024.
The two sides also released a joint declaration on Friday, vowing to enhance political dialogues and boost political mutual trust, jointly promote global security and stability, advance economic exchanges and restart people-to-people exchanges and jointly tackle global challenges.
"Such high-level reception to Macron during his visit also showed our diplomatic courtesy, and that our deeds accord with our words," Cui Hongjian, director of the Department of European Studies at the China Institute of International Studies, told the Global Times on Friday.
China values France's tradition of independence and its important role in advancing the multi-polar world, and that respect was underscored by the hospitality he received in China, Cui said.
While EU foreign policy chief Josep Borrell and German Foreign Minister Annalena Baerbock are reportedly planning to travel to China in coming weeks following the visit of Macron and European Commission chief Ursula von der Leyen this week, Chinese experts believe that more European officials coming to China also show that China's wisdom and solutions are winning more people over, and "the main tone" of China-EU relations this year is stabilizing relations, resuming all-level exchanges and turning those consensus into actions.
The three-day visit not only resulted in fruitful business deals in the fields of transport, energy, agriculture, culture and science, but also provided guidance for the future direction of China-France and China-EU relations, as leaders of both sides sought a more reasonable way of co-existing in the post-pandemic era and amid the Ukraine crisis, despite differences and competitions, experts said.
Cooperation remains priority
"It's very rare to see several EU officials come to visit China within one month, which also showed that Europe has a strong will to safeguard and develop its relations with China, although there are some different voices within the bloc," Cui said, noting that it's important to stabilize relations through such high-level interactions and reset some principles for cooperation, turning those consensuses into practice this year.
During Friday's meeting, Xi outlined China's modernization drive and welcomed the French side to actively participate in the Canton Fair, the China International Import Expo and the China International Fair for Trade in Services to further explore the Chinese market.
Although there is both cooperation and competition, there are essential differences between China-EU and China-US relations. China and the US are seeking cooperation in rivalry, but China and the EU need to properly handle their competition in cooperation. The visit by Macron and von der Leyen sent a signal that despite increased competition and differences, cooperation is still the priority, Wang Shuo, a professor at the School of International Relations of Beijing Foreign Studies University, told the Global Times on Friday.
"Both sides hope to build a relatively favorable external environment, which is the main reason for reaching the consensus and agreement," Wang said.
Over the past few years, China-EU relations have been experiencing some difficult times, especially when the US exerted more influence on the continent and even tied Europe to its chariot in confronting Russia in the Ukraine crisis.
"China-EU relations had been kidnapped by the Russia-Ukraine conflict and by the Taiwan question, but we have dismissed some misunderstandings now and dispelled some concerns during the meetings with European leaders," Wang Yiwei, director of the Institute of International Affairs at the Renmin University of China, told the Global Times on Friday.
After China released a 12-point position paper on political settlement of the Ukraine crisis and the Chinese leader visited Russia, it has become much clearer to Europe that the US won't resolve the crisis but will only fuel the fire, Wang said. He added that Europe felt disappointed by this and now pins its hopes on China, which it believes can play a positive role in helping resolve the crisis.
Ukraine crisis 'key focus'
During the meeting between Xi and Macron on Friday, the Chinese leader said the cause of the Ukraine crisis is complex and an immediate ceasefire is in line with the interests of the relevant parties and the world, adding that a political settlement is the only correct way out.
China won't handle the issue for its own interests, but always stands on the side of justice and fairness. Xi said China welcomes the solutions proposed by France on the political settlement, and is willing to support it, and play a constructive role.
Following the China-France-EU trilateral talks on Thursday, von der Leyen said the Chinese leader expressed willingness to speak to the Ukrainian leader when the time is right, according to media reports. Commenting on the matter, Chinese Foreign Ministry Spokesperson Mao Ning said on Friday that on the Ukraine issue, China maintains communication with all relevant parties, including Ukraine.
Europe's attitude toward China on the Ukraine crisis has been changing over the past year. Initially, it hoped that China could maintain the same position as Europe by condemning Russia or sanctioning it, but then followed the US rhetoric by asking China not to supply weapons to Russia or help it overcome sanctions, Cui Hongjian noted.
"After China stressed that a nuclear war cannot be fought and clarified our stance on the matter through a position paper, Europe realized that China's practical role has helped reduce the risks of nuclear war," he said, noting that the political room for China-EU cooperation in solving the Ukraine crisis has opened and they need to find more space to take future joint steps.
It is difficult for some European countries to abandon their prejudice and previous mentality to agree with China, an Asian country, in mediating the Russia-Ukraine conflict, Cui Heng, an assistant research fellow from the Center for Russian Studies of East China Normal University, told the Global Times on Friday.
"But they have realized that under the global geopolitical changes, the US is not the only center of power, as China's international influence has been witnessed. More countries have started to support China's proposal to promote negotiations," he said.
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"united we are great!"
"divide and conquer"
"a traitor found!"
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https://www.politico.eu/article/emmanue ... interview/
Europe must resist pressure to become ‘America’s followers,’ says Macron
The ‘great risk’ Europe faces is getting ‘caught up in crises that are not ours,’ French president says in interview.
ABOARD COTAM UNITÉ (FRANCE’S AIR FORCE ONE) — Europe must reduce its dependency on the United States and avoid getting dragged into a confrontation between China and the U.S. over Taiwan, French President Emmanuel Macron said in an interview on his plane back from a three-day state visit to China.
Speaking with POLITICO and two French journalists after spending around six hours with Chinese President Xi Jinping during his trip, Macron emphasized his pet theory of “strategic autonomy” for Europe, presumably led by France, to become a “third superpower.”
He said “the great risk” Europe faces is that it “gets caught up in crises that are not ours, which prevents it from building its strategic autonomy,” while flying from Beijing to Guangzhou, in southern China, aboard COTAM Unité, France’s Air Force One.
Xi Jinping and the Chinese Communist Party have enthusiastically endorsed Macron’s concept of strategic autonomy and Chinese officials constantly refer to it in their dealings with European countries. Party leaders and theorists in Beijing are convinced the West is in decline and China is on the ascendant and that weakening the transatlantic relationship will help accelerate this trend.
“The paradox would be that, overcome with panic, we believe we are just America’s followers,” Macron said in the interview. “The question Europeans need to answer … is it in our interest to accelerate [a crisis] on Taiwan? No. The worse thing would be to think that we Europeans must become followers on this topic and take our cue from the U.S. agenda and a Chinese overreaction,” he said.
Just hours after his flight left Guangzhou headed back to Paris, China launched large military exercises around the self-ruled island of Taiwan, which China claims as its territory but the U.S. has promised to arm and defend.
Those exercises were a response to Taiwanese President Tsai Ing-Wen’s 10-day diplomatic tour of Central American countries that included a meeting with Republican U.S. House Speaker Kevin McCarthy while she transited in California. People familiar with Macron’s thinking said he was happy Beijing had at least waited until he was out of Chinese airspace before launching the simulated “Taiwan encirclement” exercise.
Beijing has repeatedly threatened to invade in recent years and has a policy of isolating the democratic island by forcing other countries to recognize it as part of “one China.”
Taiwan talks
Macron and Xi discussed Taiwan “intensely,” according to French officials accompanying the president, who appears to have taken a more conciliatory approach than the U.S. or even the European Union.
“Stability in the Taiwan Strait is of paramount importance,” European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen, who accompanied Macron for part of his visit, said she told Xi during their meeting in Beijing last Thursday. “The threat [of] the use of force to change the status quo is unacceptable.”
Xi responded by saying anyone who thought they could influence Beijing on Taiwan was deluded.
Macron appears to agree with that assessment.
“Europeans cannot resolve the crisis in Ukraine; how can we credibly say on Taiwan, ‘watch out, if you do something wrong we will be there’? If you really want to increase tensions that’s the way to do it,” he said.
“Europe is more willing to accept a world in which China becomes a regional hegemon,” said Yanmei Xie, a geopolitics analyst at Gavekal Dragonomics. “Some of its leaders even believe such a world order may be more advantageous to Europe.”
In his trilateral meeting with Macron and von der Leyen last Thursday in Beijing, Xi Jinping went off script on only two topics — Ukraine and Taiwan — according to someone who was present in the room.
“Xi was visibly annoyed for being held responsible for the Ukraine conflict and he downplayed his recent visit to Moscow,” this person said. “He was clearly enraged by the U.S. and very upset over Taiwan, by the Taiwanese president’s transit through the U.S. and [the fact that] foreign policy issues were being raised by Europeans.”
In this meeting, Macron and von der Leyen took similar lines on Taiwan, this person said. But Macron subsequently spent more than four hours with the Chinese leader, much of it with only translators present, and his tone was far more conciliatory than von der Leyen’s when speaking with journalists.
‘Vassals’ warning
Macron also argued that Europe had increased its dependency on the U.S. for weapons and energy and must now focus on boosting European defense industries.
He also suggested Europe should reduce its dependence on the “extraterritoriality of the U.S. dollar,” a key policy objective of both Moscow and Beijing.
“If the tensions between the two superpowers heat up … we won’t have the time nor the resources to finance our strategic autonomy and we will become vassals,” he said.
Russia, China, Iran and other countries have been hit by U.S. sanctions in recent years that are based on denying access to the dominant dollar-denominated global financial system. Some in Europe have complained about “weaponization” of the dollar by Washington, which forces European companies to give up business and cut ties with third countries or face crippling secondary sanctions.
While sitting in the stateroom of his A330 aircraft in a hoodie with the words “French Tech” emblazoned on the chest, Macron claimed to have already “won the ideological battle on strategic autonomy” for Europe.
He did not address the question of ongoing U.S. security guarantees for the Continent, which relies heavily on American defense assistance amid the first major land war in Europe since World War II.
As one of the five permanent members of the U.N. Security Council and the only nuclear power in the EU, France is in a unique position militarily. However, the country has contributed far less to the defense of Ukraine against Russia’s invasion than many other countries.
As is common in France and many other European countries, the French President’s office, known as the Elysée Palace, insisted on checking and “proofreading” all the president’s quotes to be published in this article as a condition of granting the interview. This violates POLITICO’s editorial standards and policy, but we agreed to the terms in order to speak directly with the French president. POLITICO insisted that it cannot deceive its readers and would not publish anything the president did not say. The quotes in this article were all actually said by the president, but some parts of the interview in which the president spoke even more frankly about Taiwan and Europe’s strategic autonomy were cut out by the Elysée.
"divide and conquer"
"a traitor found!"
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https://www.politico.eu/article/emmanue ... interview/
Europe must resist pressure to become ‘America’s followers,’ says Macron
The ‘great risk’ Europe faces is getting ‘caught up in crises that are not ours,’ French president says in interview.
ABOARD COTAM UNITÉ (FRANCE’S AIR FORCE ONE) — Europe must reduce its dependency on the United States and avoid getting dragged into a confrontation between China and the U.S. over Taiwan, French President Emmanuel Macron said in an interview on his plane back from a three-day state visit to China.
Speaking with POLITICO and two French journalists after spending around six hours with Chinese President Xi Jinping during his trip, Macron emphasized his pet theory of “strategic autonomy” for Europe, presumably led by France, to become a “third superpower.”
He said “the great risk” Europe faces is that it “gets caught up in crises that are not ours, which prevents it from building its strategic autonomy,” while flying from Beijing to Guangzhou, in southern China, aboard COTAM Unité, France’s Air Force One.
Xi Jinping and the Chinese Communist Party have enthusiastically endorsed Macron’s concept of strategic autonomy and Chinese officials constantly refer to it in their dealings with European countries. Party leaders and theorists in Beijing are convinced the West is in decline and China is on the ascendant and that weakening the transatlantic relationship will help accelerate this trend.
“The paradox would be that, overcome with panic, we believe we are just America’s followers,” Macron said in the interview. “The question Europeans need to answer … is it in our interest to accelerate [a crisis] on Taiwan? No. The worse thing would be to think that we Europeans must become followers on this topic and take our cue from the U.S. agenda and a Chinese overreaction,” he said.
Just hours after his flight left Guangzhou headed back to Paris, China launched large military exercises around the self-ruled island of Taiwan, which China claims as its territory but the U.S. has promised to arm and defend.
Those exercises were a response to Taiwanese President Tsai Ing-Wen’s 10-day diplomatic tour of Central American countries that included a meeting with Republican U.S. House Speaker Kevin McCarthy while she transited in California. People familiar with Macron’s thinking said he was happy Beijing had at least waited until he was out of Chinese airspace before launching the simulated “Taiwan encirclement” exercise.
Beijing has repeatedly threatened to invade in recent years and has a policy of isolating the democratic island by forcing other countries to recognize it as part of “one China.”
Taiwan talks
Macron and Xi discussed Taiwan “intensely,” according to French officials accompanying the president, who appears to have taken a more conciliatory approach than the U.S. or even the European Union.
“Stability in the Taiwan Strait is of paramount importance,” European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen, who accompanied Macron for part of his visit, said she told Xi during their meeting in Beijing last Thursday. “The threat [of] the use of force to change the status quo is unacceptable.”
Xi responded by saying anyone who thought they could influence Beijing on Taiwan was deluded.
Macron appears to agree with that assessment.
“Europeans cannot resolve the crisis in Ukraine; how can we credibly say on Taiwan, ‘watch out, if you do something wrong we will be there’? If you really want to increase tensions that’s the way to do it,” he said.
“Europe is more willing to accept a world in which China becomes a regional hegemon,” said Yanmei Xie, a geopolitics analyst at Gavekal Dragonomics. “Some of its leaders even believe such a world order may be more advantageous to Europe.”
In his trilateral meeting with Macron and von der Leyen last Thursday in Beijing, Xi Jinping went off script on only two topics — Ukraine and Taiwan — according to someone who was present in the room.
“Xi was visibly annoyed for being held responsible for the Ukraine conflict and he downplayed his recent visit to Moscow,” this person said. “He was clearly enraged by the U.S. and very upset over Taiwan, by the Taiwanese president’s transit through the U.S. and [the fact that] foreign policy issues were being raised by Europeans.”
In this meeting, Macron and von der Leyen took similar lines on Taiwan, this person said. But Macron subsequently spent more than four hours with the Chinese leader, much of it with only translators present, and his tone was far more conciliatory than von der Leyen’s when speaking with journalists.
‘Vassals’ warning
Macron also argued that Europe had increased its dependency on the U.S. for weapons and energy and must now focus on boosting European defense industries.
He also suggested Europe should reduce its dependence on the “extraterritoriality of the U.S. dollar,” a key policy objective of both Moscow and Beijing.
“If the tensions between the two superpowers heat up … we won’t have the time nor the resources to finance our strategic autonomy and we will become vassals,” he said.
Russia, China, Iran and other countries have been hit by U.S. sanctions in recent years that are based on denying access to the dominant dollar-denominated global financial system. Some in Europe have complained about “weaponization” of the dollar by Washington, which forces European companies to give up business and cut ties with third countries or face crippling secondary sanctions.
While sitting in the stateroom of his A330 aircraft in a hoodie with the words “French Tech” emblazoned on the chest, Macron claimed to have already “won the ideological battle on strategic autonomy” for Europe.
He did not address the question of ongoing U.S. security guarantees for the Continent, which relies heavily on American defense assistance amid the first major land war in Europe since World War II.
As one of the five permanent members of the U.N. Security Council and the only nuclear power in the EU, France is in a unique position militarily. However, the country has contributed far less to the defense of Ukraine against Russia’s invasion than many other countries.
As is common in France and many other European countries, the French President’s office, known as the Elysée Palace, insisted on checking and “proofreading” all the president’s quotes to be published in this article as a condition of granting the interview. This violates POLITICO’s editorial standards and policy, but we agreed to the terms in order to speak directly with the French president. POLITICO insisted that it cannot deceive its readers and would not publish anything the president did not say. The quotes in this article were all actually said by the president, but some parts of the interview in which the president spoke even more frankly about Taiwan and Europe’s strategic autonomy were cut out by the Elysée.
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Macron: Europe cannot build a security architecture in the presence of conflictsAccording to the French president, Beijing believes that now is the time for military action in Ukraine
French President Emmanuel Macron considers it impossible to build a European security architecture in the presence of hot or frozen conflicts on the continent. He stated this in an interview with the newspaper Les Echos, published on Sunday.
"I note that Chinese President Xi Jinping spoke about the European security architecture," he said, commenting on the results of his recent trip to China. "But there cannot be a European security architecture as long as there are invading countries or frozen conflicts in Europe."
According to the French leader, Beijing believes that now is the time for military action in Ukraine. "The time has not yet come for negotiations, even if they are being prepared and their foundations need to be laid," he said.
In his opinion, the ongoing dialogue with China is necessary to consolidate common positions, the first of which is compliance with the principles of the UN Charter. "The second is a clear reminder on the nuclear issue, and China will have to deal with the consequences of Russian President Vladimir Putin placing nuclear weapons in Belarus. The third is a clear reminder of humanitarian law and child protection. And the fourth is the commitment to achieving lasting peace through negotiations," Macron explained.
He admitted that Ukraine is not a priority for Chinese diplomacy. At the same time, he believes that such a dialogue "makes it possible to moderate the comments that China is showing a certain complacency towards Russia."
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Special groups for fighting against foreign tanks in the zone of the special military operation have been created as part of the units of the RF Armed Forces. They are trained and armed with everything necessary.
Germany provided Ukraine with a new batch of equipment, which included six Biber tank bridge layers and eight Zetros large-capacity trucks.Earlier, Germany has already provided Ukraine with 20 Zetros trucks
The Abrams and Leopard 2 tanks will be fought by military groups for which special training has been organized.Evgeny Arifulin, head of the combat training center of the RF Armed Forces, spoke about this on the air of Military Acceptance on Zvezda.
He also supported the use of the term "tank hunters" to describe these groups.
Bottle throwers, ampoules and 20 mm guns: we tell you what weapons Soviet soldiers used to fight the tanks of the fascist invaders during the Great Patriotic War.
Interesting examples and the most effective type of weapon against tanks were shown on the air of "Military Acceptance" on "Zvezda".
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marinka is super hard to take because many of the buildings were built during the soviet times
they have super strong/thick walls
many were supposed to be able to sustain, to some degree, a nuclear attack
they have super strong/thick walls
many were supposed to be able to sustain, to some degree, a nuclear attack
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a raytheon product
got it last nov.
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