jhe, can you explain

[jhe123]

Because that's the only time frame I can see outside the window or the car, on the closer side and the far side of the walkway.
From 5:13 to 5:48, are you sure there were only 8 people? Do you look at the other side of the walkway? Can you see?

又看了一遍为啥你选那一段，原来你丫除了不要碧莲的cherry pick以外，还故意选个斜向纵深画面来数人头。你要计算进出一个区域的人流量，应该是画一个横截面然后计算经过这个横截面的人数，你丫选个纵深镜头把里面所有的人都算成是进出流量，呵呵，你到底是愚蠢还是不要脸？

[fortyNiner]

You think the shooter could not shoot the people on the other side of the walkway? The two rows of buildings are only 76 meters apart, don't tell me that you cannot shoot that far away. Aren't you bluffing your shooting all the time?
Give me another time frame when I can see clearly outside the window or car, as well as the other side. I can use that time and count for ten seconds.

又看了一遍为啥你选那一段，原来你丫除了不要碧莲的cherry pick以外，还故意选个斜向纵深画面来数人头。你要计算进出一个区域的人流量，应该是画一个横截面然后计算经过这个横截面的人数，你丫选个纵深镜头把里面所有的人都算成是进出流量，呵呵，你到底是愚蠢还是不要脸？

[jhe123]

You think the shooter could not shoot the people on the other side of the walkway? The two rows of buildings are only 76 meters apart, don't tell me that you cannot shoot that far away. Aren't you bluffing your shooting all the time?
Give me another time frame when I can see clearly outside the window or car, as well as the other side. I can use that time and count for ten seconds.

呵呵，你是三番五次的证明自己就是要对不懂的事情信口开河啊。前面说了，就算当时人山人海，枪手也只能从最近的几个人杀起，在几秒钟时间里，你认为枪手能对几个人开枪？

现在水平最高的射手之一，用AR15 对近距离并排排着静止不同的人形靶射击，可以达到一秒三个靶子。普通射手，对散布而且移动的路人，五秒内能打中10个目标就是绝顶高手了。

[fortyNiner]

Oh, I got it. That's how you proud gun owners use your guns for self defense. Run with guns? Do you run faster with guns?
That explains why, though defensive use of gun in states with higher gun ownership is more than five times higher than in states with low gun ownership, defensive use of gun is pretty much negligible compared to the rise of homicide rates due to (or Accidentally accompanied with?) the higher gun ownership.
Hmm, then why do you keep touting gun for defense?

呵呵，你是三番五次的证明自己就是要对不懂的事情信口开河啊。前面说了，就算当时人山人海，枪手也只能从最近的几个人杀起，在几秒钟时间里，你认为枪手能对几个人开枪？

现在水平最高的射手之一，用AR15 对近距离并排排着静止不同的人形靶射击，可以达到一秒三个靶子。普通射手，对散布而且移动的路人，五秒内能打中10个目标就是绝顶高手了。

[fortyNiner]

>>普通射手，对散布而且移动的路人，五秒内能打中10个目标就是绝顶高手了
And that guy killed 8 and injured another 7, out of your total of 20-30, was he a 绝顶高手?

呵呵，你是三番五次的证明自己就是要对不懂的事情信口开河啊。前面说了，就算当时人山人海，枪手也只能从最近的几个人杀起，在几秒钟时间里，你认为枪手能对几个人开枪？

现在水平最高的射手之一，用AR15 对近距离并排排着静止不同的人形靶射击，可以达到一秒三个靶子。普通射手，对散布而且移动的路人，五秒内能打中10个目标就是绝顶高手了。

[jhe123]

Oh, I got it. That's how you proud gun owners use your guns for self defense. Run with guns? Do you run faster with guns?
That explains why, though defensive use of gun in states with higher gun ownership is more than five times higher than in states with low gun ownership, defensive use of gun is pretty much negligible compared to the rise of homicide rates due to (or Accidentally accompanied with?) the higher gun ownership.
Hmm, then why do you keep touting gun for defense?

我自己没直接受危险时凭啥要为别人拼命？就是警察在被罪犯枪击时也是先躲闪开再回击罪犯，也没哪个傻到站在原地不同。

[fortyNiner]

That's the same thing those 1100 people killed or injured in this years mass shootings think? They think exactly the same as you. According to you, about 22 of them should be carrying guns. OK, let's say that some are in GFZs, so 11 of them should be carrying gusn. These 11 people won't 拼命 for themselves? Oh, the 1100 is the number about ten days ago. Now it's at least 1200.
That's the "gun for defense" you have always been touting? So effective!

我自己没直接受危险时凭啥要为别人拼命？就是警察在被罪犯枪击时也是先躲闪开再回击罪犯，也没哪个傻到站在原地不同。

[jhe123]

That's the same thing those 1100 people killed or injured in this years mass shootings think? They think exactly the same as you. According to you, about 22 of them should be carrying guns. OK, let's say that some are in GFZs, so 11 of them should be carrying gusn. These 11 people won't 拼命 for themselves? Oh, the 1100 is the number about ten days ago. Now it's at least 1200.
That's the "gun for defense" you have always been touting? So effective!

这里谈的是公共场合active shooting，不要拿反枪组织定义的mass shooting来扯淡。mass shooting里包括打死自己老婆小孩后自杀的案例，这些小孩子有个屁的自卫能力？公共场合active shooting，每年平均死伤各100来人，而这些枪击的绝大部份发生在禁枪区。

[fortyNiner]

Look at the top 20 mass shootings with the most casualty so far this year, the vast majority of them are not the kind you mentioned. So stop spreading the rumor.
Look at the top 30 mass shootings of all time, the vast majority of them are what people normally think. So stop fooling yourself.
Just google or wiki them. Do you need me to put the data here?

这里谈的是公共场合active shooting，不要拿反枪组织定义的mass shooting来扯淡。mass shooting里包括打死自己老婆小孩后自杀的案例，这些小孩子有个屁的自卫能力？公共场合active shooting，每年平均死伤各100来人，而这些枪击的绝大部份发生在禁枪区。

[jhe123]

Look at the top 20 mass shootings with the most casualty so far this year, the vast majority of them are not the kind you mentioned. So stop spreading the rumor.
Look at the top 30 mass shootings of all time, the vast majority of them are what people normally think. So stop fooling yourself.
Just google or wiki them. Do you need me to put the data here?

第一我从来不关心反枪组织定义的mass shooting，其次你立论你举证。举证时只贴数据没鸟用，你得把案情详细情况贴出来才有讨论的意义。

[fortyNiner]

Here you go.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_shoo ... ted_States

第一我从来不关心反枪组织定义的mass shooting，其次你立论你举证。举证时只贴数据没鸟用，你得把案情详细情况贴出来才有讨论的意义。

[jhe123]

前10个里面只有Walmart和麦当劳可能不是禁枪区，其它八个案例都是禁枪区。

[fortyNiner]

LV street is GFZ? I don't know about that.
Blame on GFZs again? 7 out of the top 10/11 were in FL and TX, are you proud? Why are you TX and FL lawmakers so evil to keep GFZs? Why are you not kicking them out?

前10个里面只有Walmart和麦当劳可能不是禁枪区，其它八个案例都是禁枪区。

[jhe123]

LV street is GFZ? I don't know about that.
Blame on GFZs again? 7 out of the top 10/11 were in FL and TX, are you proud? Why are you TX and FL lawmakers so evil to keep GFZs? Why are you not kicking them out?

你这个话题上本来就是不懂装懂。你不知道又有啥好奇怪的，LOL。音乐会围栏里当然是禁枪区。

另外你觉得自己很机灵么，拿个傻逼问题反复问，why。。。so evil？ 不觉得自己傻吗？

[fortyNiner]

What's between the concert and Mandalay Bay? The street was empty? Have you been to LV?

OK, if not evil, then what? Stupid? You "know" the problem, certainly they know, but they don't bother fixing it.
So you feel very smart by dodging the question?

你这个话题上本来就是不懂装懂。你不知道又有啥好奇怪的，LOL。音乐会围栏里当然是禁枪区。

另外你觉得自己很机灵么，拿个傻逼问题反复问，why。。。so evil？ 不觉得自己傻吗？

[jhe123]

What's between the concert and Mandalay Bay? The street was empty? Have you been to LV?

OK, if not evil, then what? Stupid? You "know" the problem, certainly they know, but they don't bother fixing it.
So you feel very smart by dodging the question?

你只会不停的问傻逼问题吗？枪响以后附近街道的人肯定跑开，就算有带枪的，凭啥要为他人出头？

在禁枪区这个问题上有些GOP是很傻逼，但枪权问题上猪党就更是臭狗屎一堆了，所以只有白痴才会问出你那个问题。

[fortyNiner]

So "Run with Gun" is your strategy of defensive use of guns? Now I understand why only after about 50 people have been shot, one person uses his/her gun for defense.
Then how dear you tout the use of guns for defense?

你只会不停的问傻逼问题吗？枪响以后附近街道的人肯定跑开，就算有带枪的，凭啥要为他人出头？

在禁枪区这个问题上有些GOP是很傻逼，但枪权问题上猪党就更是臭狗屎一堆了，所以只有白痴才会问出你那个问题。

[jhe123]

So "Run with Gun" is your strategy of defensive use of guns? Now I understand why only after about 50 people have been shot, one person uses his/her gun for defense.
Then how dear you tout the use of guns for defense?

同样的傻逼问题你还问个没完没了的，女人中都没有你这么啰嗦的。

Run hide fight 是应对active shooting的指导原则，任何人即使是警察，在被人开火射击时，都是先躲闪开再决定下一步行动。作为平民只要自己脱离了直接威胁，就不用理睬枪手。用枪自卫是自己受到威胁不得不拼命时的最后手段。

你三番五次纠缠于这个带枪平民不主动制止犯罪的问题，而且显得对带枪平民非常愤懑不甘的样子，难道你是在指望自己遭到危险时有他人挺身而出拯救你？LOL。。。

[fortyNiner]

Because you kept dreaming the same thing, "Gun for defense", but then kept twisting with "run with gun" and GFZs.

同样的傻逼问题你还问个没完没了的，女人中都没有你这么啰嗦的。

Run hide fight 是应对active shooting的指导原则，任何人即使是警察，在被人开火射击时，都是先躲闪开再决定下一步行动。作为平民只要自己脱离了直接威胁，就不用理睬枪手。用枪自卫是自己受到威胁不得不拼命时的最后手段。

你三番五次纠缠于这个带枪平民不主动制止犯罪的问题，而且显得对带枪平民非常愤懑不甘的样子，难道你是在指望自己遭到危险时有他人挺身而出拯救你？LOL。。。