turkey is the most responsible and dutiful nato state for nato
and for the universe
俄对美英德法波乌等战争之乌克兰大反攻之前之前之前，和然后，和中国，和宇宙
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Re: 俄对美英德法波乌等战争之乌克兰大反攻之前之前之前，和然后，和中国，和宇宙
so others of all kinds should expect more than what they were expecting 1 minute ago
Re: 俄对美英德法波乌等战争之乌克兰大反攻之前之前之前，和然后，和中国，和宇宙
one more time
yesterday, there was also a video for the third photo to the last
yesterday, there was also a video for the third photo to the last
上次由 meiyoumajia 在 2023年 6月 25日 17:02 修改。
Re: 俄对美英德法波乌等战争之乌克兰大反攻之前之前之前，和然后，和中国，和宇宙
the superpower's "one stone at two to four birds" strategy?
Re: 俄对美英德法波乌等战争之乌克兰大反攻之前之前之前，和然后，和中国，和宇宙
THE bridge doesn't need to be geolocated
IT is still there
the width of the river is significantly narrowed
IT is still there
the width of the river is significantly narrowed
Re: 俄对美英德法波乌等战争之乌克兰大反攻之前之前之前，和然后，和中国，和宇宙
an intentional shot
a mistake
can be both true
anyway
damage control
a mistake
can be both true
anyway
damage control
Re: 俄对美英德法波乌等战争之乌克兰大反攻之前之前之前，和然后，和中国，和宇宙
one more time
at some point, prigozhin definitely started to have the huge ambition to climb to the very top
he had prepared for it for quite some time
(more about this later)
Re: 俄对美英德法波乌等战争之乌克兰大反攻之前之前之前，和然后，和中国，和宇宙
one more time: progozhin's that long talk
it was made probably within a day before he made the big move
its "part 1" was 30+ minutes long
no part x (x>1) has come out yet, if it will ever be heard by the outside
he had stated at least a few new points which he had never mentioned before
it is a defining talk
for at least 5 months, he had been generally discrediting the russian system, from its military components, to its civil components, to its high level officials ...
a few of bigger examples:
1. repeatedly saying russian troops are impotent. once he said that if wagner pulls out, the russian army will be pushed back to the russian border ...
2. wagner is the world's best fighting foce, and the ukrainians troops he had been facing were pretty good
3. the highest mark had given to any russian unit he had ever worked with was a 4, while saying only very selected units were good enough
4. keep using st. petersburgh's mayor as a "shining" example of russian corruption at high level
collectively, he essentially pointed to putin's mismanagement of russia, though he had never literally said it
consistently he has been saying the russian system is rotten to its core, needs to be changed, and he is the man who can determine what needs to be done
he kept saying wagner was the model or envy for russian military
for multiple times he essentially call good russian soldiers to join wagner
it has been more than a month that wagner hasn't been a part of the war
russian troops are generally doing fine, perhaps most of them are already deployed not too far from the front lines, especially from the bakhmut area to the whole zaporozhia region
ukrainian counter offensive was significantly down in intensity for a few days, which could last for some time
(but he could change that, or, to make ukrainians to fix russian troops already deployed while he is doing his very special operation0
wagner has been recuperated or recovered well, and has replenished its manpower ....
that is to say: the far rear in the russia's south didn't have many troops even though shoigu and gerasimov were supposed to be there
timing
good!
so, he could wait no longer to make the big move
he expected many russian soldiers to be swayed to his side ... resulting in his control of most of the russian military forces
he said that his goal was to remove the top two officials
but if he realized his plan, he would definitely push putin aside as yeltsin did to the previous or the last other
till "part 2" of prigozhin's talk
----i
Evgeny Prigozhin released the first part of the interview about the real reasons for the special military operation, about the critical problems of the army and possible scenarios of war.
ㅤ
0:00 - the origins of the special operation
0:20 - Slavyansk should have been finished in autumn 2014
0:43 - cutting money of NM corps instead of preparing for war
2:17 - the special operation did not start because of the aggression of Ukraine and NATO
3:53 - the army has been in a state of disrepair since 2012
4:34 - the Syrian campaign - the main merit for PMCs
5:04 - most Russian generals - "parquet"
5:56 - a soldier under Shoigu ceased to exist as a creature with an opinion
6:24 - the operation was kept secret as the cause of the problems
7:05 - Shoigu killed thousands of soldiers in the first days of the war
10:04 - these scum did not say where we were going
10:43 - near Kiev it was necessary to dictate their terms
12:15 - the war has become protracted
12:53 - defeat became apparent at the end of February
15:11 - the number of Russian soldiers killed in the first month, deserters
16:01 - the great Tuvan commander wanted a marshal
17:09 - Medvedchuk was supposed to become president of Ukraine
20:09 - holy war turned racket
21:41 - accomplishment of tasks above the lives of soldiers
23:44 - unprofessionalism of "parquet generals"
25:49 - lack of control killed 80% of the soldiers
26:01 - "shell hunger" and the cost of the lives of fighters
26:51 - Wagner wanted to be destroyed
27:32 - Ministry of Defense leadership is deceiving the president
28:54 - the situation in Zaporozhye and Kherson
30:07 - Bahmut now
it was made probably within a day before he made the big move
its "part 1" was 30+ minutes long
no part x (x>1) has come out yet, if it will ever be heard by the outside
he had stated at least a few new points which he had never mentioned before
it is a defining talk
for at least 5 months, he had been generally discrediting the russian system, from its military components, to its civil components, to its high level officials ...
a few of bigger examples:
1. repeatedly saying russian troops are impotent. once he said that if wagner pulls out, the russian army will be pushed back to the russian border ...
2. wagner is the world's best fighting foce, and the ukrainians troops he had been facing were pretty good
3. the highest mark had given to any russian unit he had ever worked with was a 4, while saying only very selected units were good enough
4. keep using st. petersburgh's mayor as a "shining" example of russian corruption at high level
collectively, he essentially pointed to putin's mismanagement of russia, though he had never literally said it
consistently he has been saying the russian system is rotten to its core, needs to be changed, and he is the man who can determine what needs to be done
he kept saying wagner was the model or envy for russian military
for multiple times he essentially call good russian soldiers to join wagner
it has been more than a month that wagner hasn't been a part of the war
russian troops are generally doing fine, perhaps most of them are already deployed not too far from the front lines, especially from the bakhmut area to the whole zaporozhia region
ukrainian counter offensive was significantly down in intensity for a few days, which could last for some time
(but he could change that, or, to make ukrainians to fix russian troops already deployed while he is doing his very special operation0
wagner has been recuperated or recovered well, and has replenished its manpower ....
that is to say: the far rear in the russia's south didn't have many troops even though shoigu and gerasimov were supposed to be there
timing
good!
so, he could wait no longer to make the big move
he expected many russian soldiers to be swayed to his side ... resulting in his control of most of the russian military forces
he said that his goal was to remove the top two officials
but if he realized his plan, he would definitely push putin aside as yeltsin did to the previous or the last other
till "part 2" of prigozhin's talk
----i
Evgeny Prigozhin released the first part of the interview about the real reasons for the special military operation, about the critical problems of the army and possible scenarios of war.ㅤ
0:00 - the origins of the special operation
0:20 - Slavyansk should have been finished in autumn 2014
0:43 - cutting money of NM corps instead of preparing for war
2:17 - the special operation did not start because of the aggression of Ukraine and NATO
3:53 - the army has been in a state of disrepair since 2012
4:34 - the Syrian campaign - the main merit for PMCs
5:04 - most Russian generals - "parquet"
5:56 - a soldier under Shoigu ceased to exist as a creature with an opinion
6:24 - the operation was kept secret as the cause of the problems
7:05 - Shoigu killed thousands of soldiers in the first days of the war
10:04 - these scum did not say where we were going
10:43 - near Kiev it was necessary to dictate their terms
12:15 - the war has become protracted
12:53 - defeat became apparent at the end of February
15:11 - the number of Russian soldiers killed in the first month, deserters
16:01 - the great Tuvan commander wanted a marshal
17:09 - Medvedchuk was supposed to become president of Ukraine
20:09 - holy war turned racket
21:41 - accomplishment of tasks above the lives of soldiers
23:44 - unprofessionalism of "parquet generals"
25:49 - lack of control killed 80% of the soldiers
26:01 - "shell hunger" and the cost of the lives of fighters
26:51 - Wagner wanted to be destroyed
27:32 - Ministry of Defense leadership is deceiving the president
28:54 - the situation in Zaporozhye and Kherson
30:07 - Bahmut now
Re: 俄对美英德法波乌等战争之乌克兰大反攻之前之前之前，和然后，和中国，和宇宙
prigozhin's personal channel is unusually quiet for well over a day now