三翻最美的一週

[iMaJia]

我觉得重大事件之前清理一下，也是对的，总比法律不允许，所以我彻底摆烂更好

这种清理必须警察和市政员工大动员，你让人人都时刻来加班？

要面子前一天才去清場，當然要大动员。如果如你說做了很多年的工作，不是應該安排好進度，有次序的清理嗎？

你也知道要大动员，就被再拿 Newsom平安夜不回家，帶著記者拍自己一個人去拆帳篷了哦

所以法律是有彈性的，你認為對你有利的時候可以犯法？

你不是說三翻超額完成多少多少床位嗎，為什麼 homeless 有增無減？政府為了面子趕走幾天又回來了？

[赖美豪中]

问问老邱就知道了。他从来不是没地方住，只是住的不满意。在红州流浪汉少的主要原因就是教会比较真诚，如果真是没地方住没得吃根本不用住街上

热版主表示不同意，版主说流浪汉就是想在街上多讨几个铜板

[GreatCanada]

问问老邱就知道了。他从来不是没地方住，只是住的不满意。在红州流浪汉少的主要原因就是教会比较真诚，如果真是没地方住没得吃根本不用住街上

三番没有教会？

[iMaJia]

三番没有教会？

我肉眼觀察，三番 homeless 沒幾個精神正常的，估計不喜歡住 shelter。很多還喜歡收集東西，shelter 放不下他們行當.

[赖美豪中]

蓝州左x都是嘴炮，没有红州教会淳朴。我老当年刚来的时候所有的家当都是教会送的，那种床搬家公司光帮你搬就要收几百，人一次教会都不要求我们去

三番没有教会？

[fortyNiner]

Nothing is wrong for cleaning up before some important event.
2022 LA super bowl, a lot of graffiti were removed, and lots of homeless encampments were removed too. Most people on this board were not even aware of that.
When you have visitors coming to your home, will you wash the dirty laundry that's been hidden under your bed for a month?

[GreatCanada]

Nothing is wrong for cleaning up before some important event.
2022 LA super bowl, a lot of graffiti were removed, and lots of homeless encampments were removed too. Most people on this board were not even aware of that.
When you have visitors coming to your home, will you wash the dirty laundry that's been hidden under your bed for a month?

擦，你把低端人口比喻为社会的垃圾和污渍

[fortyNiner]

擦，you took it too literally.

擦，你把低端人口比喻为社会的垃圾和污渍

[lilyamao]

要面子前一天才去清場，當然要大动员。如果如你說做了很多年的工作，不是應該安排好進度，有次序的清理嗎？

你也知道要大动员，就被再拿 Newsom平安夜不回家，帶著記者拍自己一個人去拆帳篷了哦

所以法律是有彈性的，你認為對你有利的時候可以犯法？

你不是說三翻超額完成多少多少床位嗎，為什麼 homeless 有增無減？政府為了面子趕走幾天又回來了？

重大事件，法律允许他们临时离开这个街区、到旁边街区扎一下

法律规定有两个原则；每个流浪汉必须有shelter available
和他们自愿

现在把自愿这条大大改变了、15分钟就可以执法

[iMaJia]

重大事件，法律允许他们临时离开这个街区、到旁边街区扎一下

法律规定有两个原则；每个流浪汉必须有shelter available
和他们自愿

现在把自愿这条大大改变了、15分钟就可以执法

你說的打5年官司是什麼案子？按照你的描述，那案子是

the Lawyers’ Committee for Civil Rights of the San Francisco Bay Area, the ACLU Foundation of Northern California 告 SF。

原告是民主黨
被告是民主黨
法官 Donna Ryu 是民主黨

和共和黨摸不著邊
為什麼你說是共和黨搞加州？


2022-09 才立狀，2022-12-23 Donna Ryu grant emergency status. 何來 5 年之說？

Newsom 卡點 2022-12-24 平安夜帶著記者親自上陣拆帳篷是不是為了節目效果？

[fortyNiner]

>>在红州流浪汉少
That's probably in small towns.

问问老邱就知道了。他从来不是没地方住，只是住的不满意。在红州流浪汉少的主要原因就是教会比较真诚，如果真是没地方住没得吃根本不用住街上

[iMaJia]

重大事件，法律允许他们临时离开这个街区、到旁边街区扎一下

法律规定有两个原则；每个流浪汉必须有shelter available
和他们自愿

现在把自愿这条大大改变了、15分钟就可以执法

另外一個 2023 的訴訟
https://spectrumnews1.com/ca/la-west/ho ... ess-people

原告 LA Alliance for Human Rights，民主黨
被告 LA County, 民主黨
聯邦法官 David Carter, 民主黨

也是和 共和黨 沾不上邊

你說的和聯邦政府打5年官司，又2022-12-24新法律，又 2023-11 上訴，所以加州這麼多年被共和黨限制不能處理 homeless，到底是什麼案子

[iMaJia]

重大事件，法律允许他们临时离开这个街区、到旁边街区扎一下

法律规定有两个原则；每个流浪汉必须有shelter available
和他们自愿

现在把自愿这条大大改变了、15分钟就可以执法

我只查到聯邦政府全力支持加州處理 homeless

https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/califor ... a/3232780/

Five major U.S. cities and the state of California will receive federal help to get unsheltered residents into permanent housing under a new plan launched Thursday as part of the Biden administration's larger goal to reduce homelessness 25% by 2025.

[iMaJia]

@lilyamao 我對事不對人。我只是正好看到你反复強調的幾事情，我沒能找到真實資料。你的說法是，如果不是共和黨的 Federal court 阻止加州辦事，homeless 問題早解決/進展了。但是我每深究一次就發現一次事實和你的說法不付。

不好意思，我這兩天太閒

[fortyNiner]

At least that's what Newsom said.

Here is an article on 9/13.
"California Gov. Gavin Newsom said Tuesday the state will intervene in an ongoing federal court case that's barred San Francisco from cleaning up homeless encampments until more shelter beds are available, saying the judge has gone too far and is preventing the state from solving a critical problem."
--https://www.kcra.com/article/newsom-cal ... s/45122364#

@lilyamao 我對事不對人。我只是正好看到你反复強調的幾事情，我沒能找到真實資料。你的說法是，如果不是共和黨的 Federal court 阻止加州辦事，homeless 問題早解決/進展了。但是我每深究一次就發現一次事實和你的說法不付。

不好意思，我這兩天太閒

[iMaJia]

At least that's what Newsom said.

Here is an article on 9/13.
"California Gov. Gavin Newsom said Tuesday the state will intervene in an ongoing federal court case that's barred San Francisco from cleaning up homeless encampments until more shelter beds are available, saying the judge has gone too far and is preventing the state from solving a critical problem."
--https://www.kcra.com/article/newsom-cal ... s/45122364#

這個我找到了呀，前面貼的那個 homeless collation vs SF 的案子

[fortyNiner]

You are bothered with the five year thing?

這個我找到了呀，前面貼的那個 homeless collation vs SF 的案子

[iMaJia]

You are bothered with the five year thing?

說了，很多事情。最主要就是 lilyamao 說加州多年的努力被 共和黨 強行制止

[fortyNiner]

I don't see her mentioning anything about GOP in this thread. Maybe she said that somewhere else?
To me, Cal's homelessness is not a partisan problem. Cal's high cost of living and its nice weather are the two major reasons leading to high homelessness. No matter which party controls Cal, this problem cannot be fixed easily.
Newsom is a dem, so it's normal for him to place blame on the repubs. Politicians always do that.

說了，很多事情。最主要就是 lilyamao 說加州多年的努力被 共和黨 強行制止

[iMaJia]

I don't see her mentioning anything about GOP in this thread. Maybe she said that somewhere else?
To me, Cal's homelessness is not a partisan problem. Cal's high cost of living and its nice weather are the two major reasons leading to high homelessness. No matter which party controls Cal, this problem cannot be fixed easily.
Newsom is a dem, so it's normal for him to place blame on the repubs. Politicians always do that.

我不常駐這版，可能巧合，我幾次來正好看到 lilyamao 的幾個講 homeless 的貼。

看完的感覺就是說，加州已經做到很好，都是外來阻力礙事

有一貼明確說 gop 還是說右派的 federal court 立法阻止。我一查，從原告到grant emergency approval 的法官都是民主黨。這是一家人演戲，lilyamao 宣傳，全國人民買單。