University of Notre Dame何德何能 排名18?

对应老买买提的军事天地,观点交锋比较激烈,反驳不留情面,请作好心理准备。因为此版帖子太多,所以新帖不出现在首页新帖列表,防止首页新帖刷屏太快。


版主: Softfist

Unclemo(墨叔)
论坛支柱
论坛支柱
帖子互动: 565
帖子: 11847
注册时间: 2024年 7月 25日 02:48

#101 Re: University of Notre Dame何德何能 排名18?

帖子 Unclemo(墨叔) »

windy 写了: 2024年 9月 24日 15:24 扯淡,你那是天天吹Big12,说big12怎么能压倒big10.后来big12差点解散了.你可能是河马,TAMU或者mizzu的.跟着球队从big12球迷变成了SEC的.

PAC10解散虽然有自身地域局限,更主要的原因是领导太烂.其实大12比他们当时更危险,当时的几个电力屋,Nebraska被big10挖走,最大的两个Texas和河马被SEC挖走,剩下的全是小啰啰.Pac10好歹还有USC, UCLA, UW, Oregon,Utha几个不错的,当年还把Colorada从big12吸引过去,要是好好经营,那就是big12解体,Pac12,Big10,SEC瓜分big12的局面.结果自己的赚钱球队反而被big12偷走,然后电力屋被远在天边的big10搞走,这才彻底完蛋.最大的败笔是和媒体谈判时蛇鼠两端,谈判破裂,这才造成内爆.
大学体育只有SEC BIG10 BIG12 三个根据地,ACC也注定解散。这不是吹捧,这就是当地校友球迷基础所决定的,能认真玩大学体育的就只有东南,中南和大湖三个地界,无论怎么组合,最后三大会议只能围绕这三个地区开展。

另外PAC 12实力排序是1,Washington, 2,Oregon, 3,Utah 4,Arizona, 5,USC 6,Colorado, 7,UCLA ,8,ASU,其他四个属于G5级别。Big10 不是需要加州两所破学校,而是需要冬季度假碗赛和招生,保守派地区的文化认同只能去BIG12 。BIG12 一直很安全的地界,因为球迷基础太好了,KSU ISU OKSU BAYLOR TCU TTU这些基本都是满场和超卖学校,跟会议有没有豪门和成绩没有关系,所以BIG12 一直非常安全。长角河马一走,马上就有其他学校希望加盟。下一步,也是SEC先挑ACC学校,会选择北卡和弗吉尼亚的大公立。然后Big10 会选弗吉尼亚和北卡俩个州的老二,剩下BIG会挑FSU CLEMSON PITT LOUISVILLE GATECH MIAMI。
Unclemo(墨叔)
论坛支柱
论坛支柱
帖子互动: 565
帖子: 11847
注册时间: 2024年 7月 25日 02:48

#102 Re: University of Notre Dame何德何能 排名18?

帖子 Unclemo(墨叔) »

windy 写了: 2024年 9月 24日 15:24 扯淡,你那是天天吹Big12,说big12怎么能压倒big10.后来big12差点解散了.你可能是河马,TAMU或者mizzu的.跟着球队从big12球迷变成了SEC的.

PAC10解散虽然有自身地域局限,更主要的原因是领导太烂.其实大12比他们当时更危险,当时的几个电力屋,Nebraska被big10挖走,最大的两个Texas和河马被SEC挖走,剩下的全是小啰啰.Pac10好歹还有USC, UCLA, UW, Oregon,Utha几个不错的,当年还把Colorada从big12吸引过去,要是好好经营,那就是big12解体,Pac12,Big10,SEC瓜分big12的局面.结果自己的赚钱球队反而被big12偷走,然后电力屋被远在天边的big10搞走,这才彻底完蛋.最大的败笔是和媒体谈判时蛇鼠两端,谈判破裂,这才造成内爆.
你总是觉得会议豪门走了,会议就散了,你没有经历过保守派地区的大学体育文化。在中部和东南保守派地区,他们民风是自娱自乐,根本不受豪门对阵和负面成绩的影响。所以即便BIG12 长角河马出走,Arizona Colorado Utah Clemson Florida st也愿意加入BIG12 。
windy(文帝)
著名点评
著名点评
帖子互动: 1009
帖子: 5159
注册时间: 2023年 2月 7日 18:53

#103 Re: University of Notre Dame何德何能 排名18?

帖子 windy(文帝) »

扯淡啊,KSU, ISU, OKSU, Bayler,TCU, TTU这些破学校都是没人要的.以前就靠着长角和河马吃香喝辣.这两走了以后这几个破学校能和Pac12的比?

你看看这个college football value ranking,

当年big12的 长脚,河马,棒子,塔姆,秘书被人挖走以后,最高的就是OkSU和TTU,排32,33.排到前50, TCU38.BYU42, ISU45, Baylor 49.

再看看当年Pac12的:USC 21, Washington 25, Oregon 26, UCLA 27, ASU37, Utah 39, Stanford 40, UCB 44, KSU50.

Big12拿什么和Pac12比?要不当年colorado会从big12叛逃到Pac12?

你去网上随便看看人家的分析,都认为pac12垮掉是他们那个commissioner的责任.
Unclemo 写了: 2024年 9月 24日 15:39 大学体育只有SEC BIG10 BIG12 三个根据地,ACC也注定解散。这不是吹捧,这就是当地校友球迷基础所决定的,能认真玩大学体育的就只有东南,中南和大湖三个地界,无论怎么组合,最后三大会议只能围绕这三个地区开展。

另外PAC 12实力排序是1,Washington, 2,Oregon, 3,Utah 4,Arizona, 5,USC 6,Colorado, 7,UCLA ,8,ASU,其他四个属于G5级别。Big10 不是需要加州两所破学校,而是需要冬季度假碗赛和招生,保守派地区的文化认同只能去BIG12 。BIG12 一直很安全的地界,因为球迷基础太好了,KSU ISU OKSU BAYLOR TCU TTU这些基本都是满场和超卖学校,跟会议有没有豪门和成绩没有关系,所以BIG12 一直非常安全。长角河马一走,马上就有其他学校希望加盟。下一步,也是SEC先挑ACC学校,会选择北卡和弗吉尼亚的大公立。然后Big10 会选弗吉尼亚和北卡俩个州的老二,剩下BIG会挑FSU CLEMSON PITT LOUISVILLE GATECH MIAMI。
Unclemo(墨叔)
论坛支柱
论坛支柱
帖子互动: 565
帖子: 11847
注册时间: 2024年 7月 25日 02:48

#104 Re: University of Notre Dame何德何能 排名18?

帖子 Unclemo(墨叔) »

windy 写了: 2024年 9月 24日 16:14

你真好骗,一个虚假数字的新闻和怪一个commissioner之后,所有pac12 球队就心安理得的奔赴big12 和big10 了。
lgw
论坛元老
论坛元老
帖子互动: 669
帖子: 19569
注册时间: 2022年 7月 23日 19:01

#105 Re: University of Notre Dame何德何能 排名18?

帖子 lgw »

Unclemo 写了: 2024年 9月 24日 14:55 我是SEC球迷,我只是当时也是知道pac12 快坚持不下去了,华人球迷根本不懂NCAA,所以给球迷分析了一些为什么PAC12会解散的原因。圣母也一样,圣母加盟ACC主要原因是big10的academic 太弱了。我当时告诉你们,美国人的academic 指的是本科生源的家庭背景和经济结构,而不是中国人习惯理解的大学科研。我很客观,所以不贬低也不吹捧,替别人说公道话是一种愉悦。。
L老大,big 10学术比acc差?别开玩笑了

西北密歇根明尼苏达威斯康星马里兰,叫差?

搞的圣母多爱科学似的。

原因不就是去big 10年年要被密歇根,Ohio state打出屎来。去acc还有点可能争一争,到时候被投进季后赛
windy(文帝)
著名点评
著名点评
帖子互动: 1009
帖子: 5159
注册时间: 2023年 2月 7日 18:53

#106 Re: University of Notre Dame何德何能 排名18?

帖子 windy(文帝) »

什么民风问题,唯一的问题就是钱.那些大学admin谁在乎什么体育文化?人就看在哪个会议钱多.Big12拉了一帮mid major的强队进来,和ESPN和fox签了个还算不错的合同,Pac12的头头脑子抽筋了去和Apple TV谈合同.谁他妈去定个Apple TV看球赛?结果鸡飞蛋打,每个学校拿到的钱比big12少,这才是那几个学校跳槽去big12的原因.

另外big10加USC, UCLA, USC, Oregon还真不是主动的,而是pac12太烂,这几个学校主动求爱,big10顺水推舟把他们纳入门下.Big10以前的目标一直是ND.

Clemson和FSU脑子进水了才会去big12.这两学校就想进SEC或者大十.
Unclemo 写了: 2024年 9月 24日 16:00 你总是觉得会议豪门走了,会议就散了,你没有经历过保守派地区的大学体育文化。在中部和东南保守派地区,他们民风是自娱自乐,根本不受豪门对阵和负面成绩的影响。所以即便BIG12 长角河马出走,Arizona Colorado Utah Clemson Florida st也愿意加入BIG12 。
Unclemo(墨叔)
论坛支柱
论坛支柱
帖子互动: 565
帖子: 11847
注册时间: 2024年 7月 25日 02:48

#107 Re: University of Notre Dame何德何能 排名18?

帖子 Unclemo(墨叔) »

lgw 写了: 2024年 9月 24日 16:22 L老大,big 10学术比acc差?别开玩笑了

西北密歇根明尼苏达威斯康星马里兰,叫差?

搞的圣母多爱科学似的。

原因不就是去big 10年年要被密歇根,Ohio state打出屎来。去acc还有点可能争一争,到时候被投进季后赛
Big10公立大学的生源家庭质量不如ACC,big10 只有Michigan 和西北两所学校的本科是9及格。ACC有Duke GATECH BC WFU UVA 5所还不错的本科学校。美国人说到大学academic ,指的是生源家庭背景和小班教学。
Unclemo(墨叔)
论坛支柱
论坛支柱
帖子互动: 565
帖子: 11847
注册时间: 2024年 7月 25日 02:48

#108 Re: University of Notre Dame何德何能 排名18?

帖子 Unclemo(墨叔) »

windy 写了: 2024年 9月 24日 16:24 什么民风问题,唯一的问题就是钱.那些大学admin谁在乎什么体育文化?人就看在哪个会议钱多.Big12拉了一帮mid major的强队进来,和ESPN和fox签了个还算不错的合同,Pac12的头头脑子抽筋了去和Apple TV谈合同.谁他妈去定个Apple TV看球赛?结果鸡飞蛋打,每个学校拿到的钱比big12少,这才是那几个学校跳槽去big12的原因.

另外big10加USC, UCLA, USC, Oregon还真不是主动的,而是pac12太烂,这几个学校主动求爱,big10顺水推舟把他们纳入门下.Big10以前的目标一直是ND.

Clemson和FSU脑子进水了才会去big12.这两学校就想进SEC或者大十.
这个又可以期待一下,当年就不信PAC 解体散伙,接下来看看谁去big12 。你想到的我都能理解,我也知道你为什么不信。没关系,可以再等等。而且FSU CLEMSON 其实都是小学校,体量跟Utah Arizona 差不多,你只是被过去几年成绩骗了。他俩去Big12 是大概率结果,属于互相成全。
windy(文帝)
著名点评
著名点评
帖子互动: 1009
帖子: 5159
注册时间: 2023年 2月 7日 18:53

#109 Re: University of Notre Dame何德何能 排名18?

帖子 windy(文帝) »

实事求是的说,Big10学术最好的几个学校(NW+UM+WISC), 和ACC最好的几个学校(Duke+UNC+VU,现在又加上Standford和UCB)在学术上比稍弱一点点.但总体水平要比ACC强.Big10一直号称他们的所有会员都必须是AAU的(现在唯一一个不是的是棒子.棒子加入的时候还是会员,后来被AAU踢出去了).ACC学校良莠不齐, FSU, Louisville, Wake Forest, NCST, Boston college, Clemson, syracus (这个以前是,和棒子同一年被踢出去的),SMU都不是.也就是说差不多一半的学校都不是.

说ND嫌弃Big10的学术差就是笑话.ND自己也是去年才加入AAU的.当然他们本科教育不错,big10当年愿意为他们破例.而且big10有NW,加上UChicago这个非正式会员.这两都比ND学术强多了.
lgw 写了: 2024年 9月 24日 16:22 L老大,big 10学术比acc差?别开玩笑了

西北密歇根明尼苏达威斯康星马里兰,叫差?

搞的圣母多爱科学似的。

原因不就是去big 10年年要被密歇根,Ohio state打出屎来。去acc还有点可能争一争,到时候被投进季后赛
windy(文帝)
著名点评
著名点评
帖子互动: 1009
帖子: 5159
注册时间: 2023年 2月 7日 18:53

#110 Re: University of Notre Dame何德何能 排名18?

帖子 windy(文帝) »

又来瞎扯.Clemson,FSU一直是college football的power house.Clemson有差不多3万学生, FSU有4万5千学生,两个学校球场能容纳8万人左右,在全美球场排名14和17.Clemson的球场比ND的还大.到你嘴里成立小学校了
Unclemo 写了: 2024年 9月 24日 16:32 这个又可以期待一下,当年就不信PAC 解体散伙,接下来看看谁去big12 。你想到的我都能理解,我也知道你为什么不信。没关系,可以再等等。而且FSU CLEMSON 其实都是小学校,体量跟Utah Arizona 差不多,你只是被过去几年成绩骗了。他俩去Big12 是大概率结果,属于互相成全。
sensasian(sense)
正式写手
正式写手
帖子互动: 33
帖子: 177
注册时间: 2023年 5月 23日 23:05

#111 Re: University of Notre Dame何德何能 排名18?

帖子 sensasian(sense) »

你们去研究一下USNEWS排名的methodology就知道为什么圣母总是排在20名内。 这个学校的学生和校友非常团结,对学校的满意度是最高的。这是历史上遗留下的 - 天主教爱尔兰人不抱团就不能在美国生存发展。不好的地方是legacy 大于60%, 体育生很多,学生质量不均。

华人不是体育生千万不要去这个火锅,爱尔兰人抱团排外有名,再加上6万块的学费和狗屎一样的south bend。这个学校的校园是美国最美之一,如果你们的孩子被诱惑了,就和他们说 - 这个学校很多男女生毕业的时候都是处男处女。
Unclemo(墨叔)
论坛支柱
论坛支柱
帖子互动: 565
帖子: 11847
注册时间: 2024年 7月 25日 02:48

#112 Re: University of Notre Dame何德何能 排名18?

帖子 Unclemo(墨叔) »

windy 写了: 2024年 9月 24日 16:52 又来瞎扯.Clemson,FSU一直是college football的power house.Clemson有差不多3万学生, FSU有4万5千学生,两个学校球场能容纳8万人左右,在全美球场排名14和17.Clemson的球场比ND的还大.到你嘴里成立小学校了
都是20名开外的小学校,不算豪门,也就是Utah Arizona 级别的学校。圣母年收入是Clemson 的一倍,Clemson 是州内二流学校,南方公立学校如果没有法学院,校友级别和规模就普低一级。
windy(文帝)
著名点评
著名点评
帖子互动: 1009
帖子: 5159
注册时间: 2023年 2月 7日 18:53

#113 Re: University of Notre Dame何德何能 排名18?

帖子 windy(文帝) »

你又东拉西扯。我们谈的是橄榄球。这两学校当然是橄榄球的豪门,妥妥的20以内。

我问了一下ChatGPT,让它按历史排一下前25名的橄榄球队:
1. Alabama Crimson Tide
National Championships: 18 (claimed)
Heisman Trophy Winners: 4
Conference: SEC
Dominance under Bear Bryant and Nick Saban has established Alabama as one of the most successful programs ever.
2. Notre Dame Fighting Irish
National Championships: 11 (claimed)
Heisman Trophy Winners: 7
Conference: Independent
Notre Dame has a rich tradition with success in multiple eras and the most Heisman Trophy winners.
3. Ohio State Buckeyes
National Championships: 8 (claimed)
Heisman Trophy Winners: 7
Conference: Big Ten
A perennial power in the Big Ten with dominance in recent decades under coaches like Woody Hayes, Urban Meyer, and Ryan Day.
4. Oklahoma Sooners
National Championships: 7 (claimed)
Heisman Trophy Winners: 7
Conference: Big 12 (Soon to SEC)
Oklahoma’s success spans eras, especially under Bud Wilkinson, Barry Switzer, and Lincoln Riley.
5. USC Trojans
National Championships: 11 (claimed)
Heisman Trophy Winners: 6
Conference: Pac-12 (Soon to Big Ten)
A powerhouse in the 1970s and early 2000s with dominance in the Pac-12 and numerous Rose Bowl victories.
6. Michigan Wolverines
National Championships: 11 (claimed)
Heisman Trophy Winners: 3
Conference: Big Ten
Michigan boasts the most wins in college football history and remains a staple in the sport, with a famous rivalry against Ohio State.
7. Texas Longhorns
National Championships: 4 (claimed)
Heisman Trophy Winners: 2
Conference: Big 12 (Soon to SEC)
Texas has had notable success across eras, including a national championship under Mack Brown in 2005.
8. Nebraska Cornhuskers
National Championships: 5 (claimed)
Heisman Trophy Winners: 3
Conference: Big Ten (formerly Big 12/Big 8)
Dominant under Tom Osborne in the 1990s, Nebraska was a powerhouse in the 1970s-1990s.
9. Miami Hurricanes
National Championships: 5 (claimed)
Heisman Trophy Winners: 2
Conference: ACC (formerly Independent)
Miami was a dominant force in the 1980s and early 2000s, with great coaches like Howard Schnellenberger and Jimmy Johnson.
10. LSU Tigers
National Championships: 4 (claimed)
Heisman Trophy Winners: 2
Conference: SEC
LSU has had significant success in the modern era, including a dominant title run in 2019 under Ed Orgeron.
11. Florida Gators
National Championships: 3 (claimed)
Heisman Trophy Winners: 3
Conference: SEC
Florida’s rise under Steve Spurrier and Urban Meyer made them a powerhouse in the SEC.
12. Penn State Nittany Lions
National Championships: 2 (claimed)
Heisman Trophy Winners: 1
Conference: Big Ten (formerly Independent)
Joe Paterno made Penn State a national power, consistently competing for titles in the 1970s, '80s, and 2000s.
13. Tennessee Volunteers
National Championships: 6 (claimed)
Heisman Trophy Winners: 0
Conference: SEC
Tennessee had great success under coaches like General Robert Neyland and Phillip Fulmer, including a title in 1998.
14. Georgia Bulldogs
National Championships: 4 (claimed)
Heisman Trophy Winners: 2
Conference: SEC
Georgia has enjoyed success across multiple eras and has seen recent dominance under Kirby Smart with a national championship in 2021 and 2022.
15. Auburn Tigers
National Championships: 2 (claimed)
Heisman Trophy Winners: 3
Conference: SEC
Auburn has had a strong history, especially under Pat Dye and Gene Chizik, with titles in 1957 and 2010.
16. Florida State Seminoles
National Championships: 3 (claimed)
Heisman Trophy Winners: 3
Conference: ACC
Florida State, under Bobby Bowden, became a dominant force in the 1990s and 2000s, with three national titles.
17. Clemson Tigers
National Championships: 3 (claimed)
Heisman Trophy Winners: 1
Conference: ACC
Clemson has risen to national prominence in the 2010s under Dabo Swinney, winning two titles in 2016 and 2018.
18. Texas A&M Aggies
National Championships: 3 (claimed)
Heisman Trophy Winners: 2
Conference: SEC (formerly Big 12/SWC)
Texas A&M has a long tradition of success, though it hasn't won a national championship in the modern era.
19. UCLA Bruins
National Championships: 1 (claimed)
Heisman Trophy Winners: 1
Conference: Pac-12 (Soon to Big Ten)
UCLA has been competitive, especially in the 1950s and '80s, but has been overshadowed by USC in recent decades.
20. Washington Huskies
National Championships: 2 (claimed)
Heisman Trophy Winners: 0
Conference: Pac-12
Washington has been a strong program, especially under Don James in the 1980s and early 1990s.
21. Army Black Knights
National Championships: 3 (claimed)
Heisman Trophy Winners: 3
Conference: Independent
Army was dominant in the 1940s, winning multiple national titles and producing several Heisman winners.
22. Pittsburgh Panthers
National Championships: 9 (claimed)
Heisman Trophy Winners: 1
Conference: ACC
Pittsburgh was a national power in the early 20th century and saw resurgence under coaches like Johnny Majors.
23. Michigan State Spartans
National Championships: 6 (claimed)
Heisman Trophy Winners: 0
Conference: Big Ten
Michigan State was a powerhouse in the 1950s and 1960s and has remained competitive since.
24. BYU Cougars
National Championships: 1 (claimed)
Heisman Trophy Winners: 1
Conference: Big 12 (formerly Independent/WAC)
BYU won a national title in 1984 and has produced great quarterbacks like Steve Young and Ty Detmer.
25. Wisconsin Badgers
National Championships: 0
Heisman Trophy Winners: 2
Conference: Big Ten
Wisconsin has been a consistent program, especially in the last few decades under Barry Alvarez and Bret Bielema.
This ranking considers each program's total national titles, Heisman winners, sustained success, and overall impact on the history of college football. While modern success plays a role, the historical scope of these programs is paramount.
Unclemo 写了: 2024年 9月 24日 18:04 都是20名开外的小学校,不算豪门,也就是Utah Arizona 级别的学校。圣母年收入是Clemson 的一倍,Clemson 是州内二流学校,南方公立学校如果没有法学院,校友级别和规模就普低一级。
头像
redot(红薯林)
论坛元老
论坛元老
帖子互动: 643
帖子: 20353
注册时间: 2024年 7月 4日 23:40

#114 Re: University of Notre Dame何德何能 排名18?

帖子 redot(红薯林) »

tnc 写了: 2024年 9月 24日 11:08 毫无意义的个人攻击!
只有尼可以做有意义的个人攻击
牛逼=你有病
Unclemo(墨叔)
论坛支柱
论坛支柱
帖子互动: 565
帖子: 11847
注册时间: 2024年 7月 25日 02:48

#115 Re: University of Notre Dame何德何能 排名18?

帖子 Unclemo(墨叔) »

windy 写了: 2024年 9月 24日 20:30 你又东拉西扯。我们谈的是橄榄球。这两学校当然是橄榄球的豪门,妥妥的20以内。

我问了一下ChatGPT,让它按历史排一下前25名的橄榄球队:
1. Alabama Crimson Tide
National Championships: 18 (claimed)
Heisman Trophy Winners: 4
Conference: SEC
Dominance under Bear Bryant and Nick Saban has established Alabama as one of the most successful programs ever.
2. Notre Dame Fighting Irish
National Championships: 11 (claimed)
Heisman Trophy Winners: 7
Conference: Independent
Notre Dame has a rich tradition with success in multiple eras and the most Heisman Trophy winners.
3. Ohio State Buckeyes
National Championships: 8 (claimed)
Heisman Trophy Winners: 7
Conference: Big Ten
A perennial power in the Big Ten with dominance in recent decades under coaches like Woody Hayes, Urban Meyer, and Ryan Day.
4. Oklahoma Sooners
National Championships: 7 (claimed)
Heisman Trophy Winners: 7
Conference: Big 12 (Soon to SEC)
Oklahoma’s success spans eras, especially under Bud Wilkinson, Barry Switzer, and Lincoln Riley.
5. USC Trojans
National Championships: 11 (claimed)
Heisman Trophy Winners: 6
Conference: Pac-12 (Soon to Big Ten)
A powerhouse in the 1970s and early 2000s with dominance in the Pac-12 and numerous Rose Bowl victories.
6. Michigan Wolverines
National Championships: 11 (claimed)
Heisman Trophy Winners: 3
Conference: Big Ten
Michigan boasts the most wins in college football history and remains a staple in the sport, with a famous rivalry against Ohio State.
7. Texas Longhorns
National Championships: 4 (claimed)
Heisman Trophy Winners: 2
Conference: Big 12 (Soon to SEC)
Texas has had notable success across eras, including a national championship under Mack Brown in 2005.
8. Nebraska Cornhuskers
National Championships: 5 (claimed)
Heisman Trophy Winners: 3
Conference: Big Ten (formerly Big 12/Big 8)
Dominant under Tom Osborne in the 1990s, Nebraska was a powerhouse in the 1970s-1990s.
9. Miami Hurricanes
National Championships: 5 (claimed)
Heisman Trophy Winners: 2
Conference: ACC (formerly Independent)
Miami was a dominant force in the 1980s and early 2000s, with great coaches like Howard Schnellenberger and Jimmy Johnson.
10. LSU Tigers
National Championships: 4 (claimed)
Heisman Trophy Winners: 2
Conference: SEC
LSU has had significant success in the modern era, including a dominant title run in 2019 under Ed Orgeron.
11. Florida Gators
National Championships: 3 (claimed)
Heisman Trophy Winners: 3
Conference: SEC
Florida’s rise under Steve Spurrier and Urban Meyer made them a powerhouse in the SEC.
12. Penn State Nittany Lions
National Championships: 2 (claimed)
Heisman Trophy Winners: 1
Conference: Big Ten (formerly Independent)
Joe Paterno made Penn State a national power, consistently competing for titles in the 1970s, '80s, and 2000s.
13. Tennessee Volunteers
National Championships: 6 (claimed)
Heisman Trophy Winners: 0
Conference: SEC
Tennessee had great success under coaches like General Robert Neyland and Phillip Fulmer, including a title in 1998.
14. Georgia Bulldogs
National Championships: 4 (claimed)
Heisman Trophy Winners: 2
Conference: SEC
Georgia has enjoyed success across multiple eras and has seen recent dominance under Kirby Smart with a national championship in 2021 and 2022.
15. Auburn Tigers
National Championships: 2 (claimed)
Heisman Trophy Winners: 3
Conference: SEC
Auburn has had a strong history, especially under Pat Dye and Gene Chizik, with titles in 1957 and 2010.
16. Florida State Seminoles
National Championships: 3 (claimed)
Heisman Trophy Winners: 3
Conference: ACC
Florida State, under Bobby Bowden, became a dominant force in the 1990s and 2000s, with three national titles.
17. Clemson Tigers
National Championships: 3 (claimed)
Heisman Trophy Winners: 1
Conference: ACC
Clemson has risen to national prominence in the 2010s under Dabo Swinney, winning two titles in 2016 and 2018.
18. Texas A&M Aggies
National Championships: 3 (claimed)
Heisman Trophy Winners: 2
Conference: SEC (formerly Big 12/SWC)
Texas A&M has a long tradition of success, though it hasn't won a national championship in the modern era.
19. UCLA Bruins
National Championships: 1 (claimed)
Heisman Trophy Winners: 1
Conference: Pac-12 (Soon to Big Ten)
UCLA has been competitive, especially in the 1950s and '80s, but has been overshadowed by USC in recent decades.
20. Washington Huskies
National Championships: 2 (claimed)
Heisman Trophy Winners: 0
Conference: Pac-12
Washington has been a strong program, especially under Don James in the 1980s and early 1990s.
21. Army Black Knights
National Championships: 3 (claimed)
Heisman Trophy Winners: 3
Conference: Independent
Army was dominant in the 1940s, winning multiple national titles and producing several Heisman winners.
22. Pittsburgh Panthers
National Championships: 9 (claimed)
Heisman Trophy Winners: 1
Conference: ACC
Pittsburgh was a national power in the early 20th century and saw resurgence under coaches like Johnny Majors.
23. Michigan State Spartans
National Championships: 6 (claimed)
Heisman Trophy Winners: 0
Conference: Big Ten
Michigan State was a powerhouse in the 1950s and 1960s and has remained competitive since.
24. BYU Cougars
National Championships: 1 (claimed)
Heisman Trophy Winners: 1
Conference: Big 12 (formerly Independent/WAC)
BYU won a national title in 1984 and has produced great quarterbacks like Steve Young and Ty Detmer.
25. Wisconsin Badgers
National Championships: 0
Heisman Trophy Winners: 2
Conference: Big Ten
Wisconsin has been a consistent program, especially in the last few decades under Barry Alvarez and Bret Bielema.
This ranking considers each program's total national titles, Heisman winners, sustained success, and overall impact on the history of college football. While modern success plays a role, the historical scope of these programs is paramount.
橄榄球看的是球迷的钱,成绩没有用。田纳西,圣母,塔木,密歇根,宾州州立即使30年无冠也是豪门,球票单价比小学校母森noles贵很多。所以最先解散的是pac12 ,接着是Acc 。
windy(文帝)
著名点评
著名点评
帖子互动: 1009
帖子: 5159
注册时间: 2023年 2月 7日 18:53

#116 Re: University of Notre Dame何德何能 排名18?

帖子 windy(文帝) »

算了,不和你扯蛋了。你就是左脸被打了说右脸很正常。
Unclemo 写了: 2024年 9月 24日 20:50 橄榄球看的是球迷的钱,成绩没有用。田纳西,圣母,塔木,密歇根,宾州州立即使30年无冠也是豪门,球票单价比小学校母森noles贵很多。所以最先解散的是pac12 ,接着是Acc 。
Unclemo(墨叔)
论坛支柱
论坛支柱
帖子互动: 565
帖子: 11847
注册时间: 2024年 7月 25日 02:48

#117 Re: University of Notre Dame何德何能 排名18?

帖子 Unclemo(墨叔) »

windy 写了: 2024年 9月 24日 21:07 算了,不和你扯蛋了。你就是左脸被打了说右脸很正常。
Pac12 都解散了,现在天天都是ACC鸟兽散和Clemson, FSU 加入big12 的消息,最后就剩3个会议,我一点都不着急。遇到以前嘴硬pac12, acc不能解散的ID ,我当然很高兴,拿来逗闷子。
snowinwind
见习点评
见习点评
帖子互动: 138
帖子: 1863
注册时间: 2022年 8月 17日 12:54

#118 Re: University of Notre Dame何德何能 排名18?

帖子 snowinwind »

芝大呢?
Unclemo 写了: 2024年 9月 24日 03:00 圣母在美国可以排进前10的大学,属于天主教旗帜,160亿美元基金,在美国可以排第8。声誉实力比西北大学高半级,比杜克大学高1级,比爱茉莉高2级。圣母根据地是大芝加哥地区的龙头本科。

简单排排美国前20的大学
1-5:哈耶普斯麻
6-10:宾母西哥杜
11-15:康艾华德密
16-20:约范柏加路
snowinwind
见习点评
见习点评
帖子互动: 138
帖子: 1863
注册时间: 2022年 8月 17日 12:54

#119 Re: University of Notre Dame何德何能 排名18?

帖子 snowinwind »

你这排名排的是啥?公立学校里面麦迪逊和UIUC啥时候都在OSU前面吧。
Unclemo 写了: 2024年 9月 24日 04:35 还得说个事情,就是圣母代表的大芝加哥地区有地理特殊性。
因为大湖区是流域经济和文化传播,不仅包含铁锈带工业商业而且辐射到大湖流域的农业州,所以大芝加哥精英校友包含了美国十几个州过去几十年的人才培养和储备,圣母校友基金才会有真金白银的166亿美元。大湖区学校里,第一是圣母大学,第二是密歇根大学,第三是西北,第四是芝加哥大学,第五是俄亥俄州立,然后才是一群各州的公立旗舰。
Unclemo(墨叔)
论坛支柱
论坛支柱
帖子互动: 565
帖子: 11847
注册时间: 2024年 7月 25日 02:48

#120 Re: University of Notre Dame何德何能 排名18?

帖子 Unclemo(墨叔) »

snowinwind 写了: 2024年 9月 25日 00:00 你这排名排的是啥?公立学校里面麦迪逊和UIUC啥时候都在OSU前面吧。
Ohio st是1200万人口大州的唯一的强公立,校友基金能达到78亿,在美国实力和知名度比康欣和UIUC强的多。
回复

回到 “军事天地(Military)”