太阳板一旦使用就可以发几十年的电，美国受利多还是中国受利多？谁说发展太阳能就一定不发展其他发电业了？为什么不能一起发展？
HBBH 写了： 2025年 6月 30日 00:54 要用也得能自己控制， 90% 依赖进口不是作死？ 等你太阳能份额到了 80%， 其他发电设备坏的坏， 拆的拆， 一禁运太阳能板，一下就把你打回石器时代。
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#61 Re: （转载）trump：烧煤比太阳能更大更美
太阳板一旦进口到了美国，怎么就不能自己控制了？
太阳板一旦使用就可以发几十年的电，美国受利多还是中国受利多？谁说发展太阳能就一定不发展其他发电业了？为什么不能一起发展？
太阳板一旦使用就可以发几十年的电，美国受利多还是中国受利多？谁说发展太阳能就一定不发展其他发电业了？为什么不能一起发展？
天然气， #66 Re: （转载）trump：烧煤比太阳能更大更美
就算30 年（实际上各种原因，冰雹等，要打折扣）， ， 10年后某个时间点开始打贸易战， 太阳能板禁运3年， 因老化而发电量不减少 30%？
Real-World Data:
NREL studies (2020-2023) show most quality panels remain viable beyond 25 years.
Some older systems (1980s-1990s) still operate at reduced capacity (~60-70%) after 30+ years.
Thin-film panels may need replacement closer to 15-20 years due to faster degradation (~1-2%/year).
Maintenance Impact: Regular cleaning and inverter replacement (every 10-15 years) can extend system life, delaying panel replacement.
Practical Timeline:
High-Quality Panels: Replace after ~25-30 years if efficiency drops significantly or newer tech justifies upgrade.
Lower-Quality/Thin-Film: May need replacement after 15-20 years.
Extreme Conditions: Harsh climates (e.g., desert heat, coastal salt) may shorten lifespan to 20 years.
Real-World Data:
NREL studies (2020-2023) show most quality panels remain viable beyond 25 years.
Some older systems (1980s-1990s) still operate at reduced capacity (~60-70%) after 30+ years.
Thin-film panels may need replacement closer to 15-20 years due to faster degradation (~1-2%/year).
Maintenance Impact: Regular cleaning and inverter replacement (every 10-15 years) can extend system life, delaying panel replacement.
Practical Timeline:
High-Quality Panels: Replace after ~25-30 years if efficiency drops significantly or newer tech justifies upgrade.
Lower-Quality/Thin-Film: May need replacement after 15-20 years.
Extreme Conditions: Harsh climates (e.g., desert heat, coastal salt) may shorten lifespan to 20 years.
上次由 HBBH 在 2025年 6月 30日 01:23 修改。
#69 Re: （转载）trump：烧煤比太阳能更大更美
前提是政府扶持。而且近几年已经有好几家美国工厂在生产太阳能板了。麻痹这个BBB法案一出，这些工厂都得倒闭。
Yes, there are solar panels manufactured in the USA. While the majority of solar panels globally are still produced in China, there's a growing trend of domestic manufacturing in the United States. Companies like First Solar, Silfab Solar, Mission Solar, and Qcells are among those producing solar panels within the US. Some companies, like Qcells, have expanded their US manufacturing facilities significantly in recent years.
Yes, there are solar panels manufactured in the USA. While the majority of solar panels globally are still produced in China, there's a growing trend of domestic manufacturing in the United States. Companies like First Solar, Silfab Solar, Mission Solar, and Qcells are among those producing solar panels within the US. Some companies, like Qcells, have expanded their US manufacturing facilities significantly in recent years.
#70 Re: （转载）trump：烧煤比太阳能更大更美
大都是二道贩子， 从中国进口silicon cells 组装一下 , 13.89 GW of silicon cells imported in 2024
first Solar 国产率最高，但原材料还是从国外进口
Imported Components: While First Solar emphasizes domestic production, it does import some materials and components. The cadmium telluride semiconductor used in its panels is derived from byproducts of copper and zinc mining, which may not always be sourced domestically.
first Solar 国产率最高，但原材料还是从国外进口
Imported Components: While First Solar emphasizes domestic production, it does import some materials and components. The cadmium telluride semiconductor used in its panels is derived from byproducts of copper and zinc mining, which may not always be sourced domestically.
ignius 写了： 2025年 6月 30日 01:27 前提是政府扶持。而且近几年已经有好几家美国工厂在生产太阳能板了。麻痹这个BBB法案一出，这些工厂都得倒闭。
Yes, there are solar panels manufactured in the USA. While the majority of solar panels globally are still produced in China, there's a growing trend of domestic manufacturing in the United States. Companies like First Solar, Silfab Solar, Mission Solar, and Qcells are among those producing solar panels within the US. Some companies, like Qcells, have expanded their US manufacturing facilities significantly in recent years.
#71 Re: （转载）trump：烧煤比太阳能更大更美
不是100%美国产就不支持了？美国车国产率最高的也不是100%. 老川的关税不也是规定了85%国产吗？
HBBH 写了： 2025年 6月 30日 01:44 大都是二道贩子， 从中国进口silicon cells 组装一下 , 13.89 GW of silicon cells imported in 2024
first Solar 国产率最高，但原材料还是从国外进口
Imported Components: While First Solar emphasizes domestic production, it does import some materials and components. The cadmium telluride semiconductor used in its panels is derived from byproducts of copper and zinc mining, which may not always be sourced domestically.
#80 Re: （转载）trump：烧煤比太阳能更大更美
https://www.utilitydive.com/news/electr ... ac/738947/
“Delivery of a new transformer ordered today could take up to three years,” said National Association of Electrical Manufacturers, or NEMA, Director of Government Relations Peter Ferrell. “Five years ago, that wait time was four to six weeks.”
The U.S. system had 60 million to 80 million distribution transformers in late 2024, and the 2050 need “could increase by up to 260% compared to 2021 levels,” NREL reported. About 55% of residential transformers are near the end of their lives, with many now more than 40 years old, the lab said.
“Delivery of a new transformer ordered today could take up to three years,” said National Association of Electrical Manufacturers, or NEMA, Director of Government Relations Peter Ferrell. “Five years ago, that wait time was four to six weeks.”
The U.S. system had 60 million to 80 million distribution transformers in late 2024, and the 2050 need “could increase by up to 260% compared to 2021 levels,” NREL reported. About 55% of residential transformers are near the end of their lives, with many now more than 40 years old, the lab said.