geniushanbiao 写了: 2025年 7月 2日 13:10 所以说,不要觉得一龙的理想有多远大。这个世界有太多的事情是我们不知道或者不清楚的。也许他知道的比我们多,也许他也并不知道。你也不可能预测他做的事情究竟会让人们过得更好还是会让这个星球走向毁灭。所以归根到底做自己认为对的事就是,但是不要侵占太多属于全人类的东西。
(转载)其实musk也挺矛盾的 可能是个绿茶婊
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#41 Re: (转载)其实musk也挺矛盾的 可能是个绿茶婊
我都跟你说了,spaceX每年从Nasa拿到钱,不到1B. 美国每年贪污浪费诈骗纳税人的钱就将近1 Trillion。SpaceX那点钱算什么侵占太多属于全人类的东西了?
#42 Re: (转载)其实musk也挺矛盾的 可能是个绿茶婊
过去20年至少30多B,而且这钱说实话完全就是扔海里的。你拿SpaceX跟贪污浪费诈骗比?确实,SpaceX也就只能和这些词汇相提并论了。ignius 写了: 2025年 7月 2日 13:14 我都跟你说了,spaceX每年从Nasa拿到钱,不到1B. 美国每年贪污浪费诈骗纳税人的钱就将近1 Trillion。SpaceX那点钱算什么侵占太多属于全人类的东西了?
#43 Re: (转载)其实musk也挺矛盾的 可能是个绿茶婊
又胡说八道。nasa自己都承认spacex替nasa省了好几百亿,完全超过了spaceX拿到的NASA的钱。你丫到底讲不讲事实?还是就在这里胡扯?
Yes, NASA acknowledges that SpaceX has saved them a significant amount of money. Specifically, the Commercial Crew program, where SpaceX and Boeing were contracted to develop spacecraft, is estimated to have saved NASA between $20 billion and $30 billion. Additionally, SpaceX's approach to reusable rockets has led to substantial cost reductions in other areas as well.
Competition:
NASA Administrator Bill Nelson stated that price competition from SpaceX has saved the military $40 billion on space launches.
Per-flight Savings: By utilizing SpaceX's crew transportation services, NASA is estimated to save approximately $22 million per astronaut ticket, or $88 million per flight, compared to past costs. Some sources suggest the per-seat savings could be even higher, closer to $128 million over Roscosmos and $140 million over Boeing.
Yes, NASA acknowledges that SpaceX has saved them a significant amount of money. Specifically, the Commercial Crew program, where SpaceX and Boeing were contracted to develop spacecraft, is estimated to have saved NASA between $20 billion and $30 billion. Additionally, SpaceX's approach to reusable rockets has led to substantial cost reductions in other areas as well.
Competition:
NASA Administrator Bill Nelson stated that price competition from SpaceX has saved the military $40 billion on space launches.
Per-flight Savings: By utilizing SpaceX's crew transportation services, NASA is estimated to save approximately $22 million per astronaut ticket, or $88 million per flight, compared to past costs. Some sources suggest the per-seat savings could be even higher, closer to $128 million over Roscosmos and $140 million over Boeing.
geniushanbiao 写了: 2025年 7月 2日 13:20 过去20年至少30多B,而且这钱说实话完全就是扔海里的。你拿SpaceX跟贪污浪费诈骗比?确实,SpaceX也就只能和这些词汇相提并论了。
上次由 ignius 在 2025年 7月 2日 13:57 修改。
#44 Re: (转载)其实musk也挺矛盾的 可能是个绿茶婊
NASA本来就是个浪费钱的单位,给一个浪费钱的单位省钱很光荣是吗?ignius 写了: 2025年 7月 2日 13:52 又胡说八道。nasa自己都承认spacex替nasa省了1百多个Billon,完全超过了spaceX拿到的NASA的钱。你丫到底讲不讲事实?还是就在这里胡扯?
省了这100多B都去哪了?Fed减少给NASA拨款了吗?
#45 Re: (转载)其实musk也挺矛盾的 可能是个绿茶婊
nasa花的都是纳税人的钱。替nasa省钱,就是替纳税人省钱。
spacex替纳税人省的钱,已经大大超过从纳税人那里拿到的钱。所以你说SpaceX是浪费纳税人完全是造谣撒谎胡扯。
spacex替纳税人省的钱,已经大大超过从纳税人那里拿到的钱。所以你说SpaceX是浪费纳税人完全是造谣撒谎胡扯。