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（转载）今天最高法院6：3的判决，“会导致”非法移民和F1, J1, B1,H1B在美国出生子女没有公民权
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#24 Re: （转载）今天最高法院6：3的判决，非法移民和F1, J1, B1,H1B在美国出生子女没有公民权
You see in this world there's two kinds of people, my friend. Those with loaded guns and those who dig.
#25 Re: （转载）今天最高法院6：3的判决，非法移民和F1, J1, B1,H1B在美国出生子女没有公民权
川普对民主和法制的破坏是前所未有的。在路上 写了： 2025年 6月 27日 17:36 此帖转自 在路上 在 书歌影视美食游 的帖子：今天最高法院6：3的判决，非法移民和F1, J1, B1,H1B在美国出生子女没有公民权
川普获得了重大胜利
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#26 Re: （转载）今天最高法院6：3的判决，非法移民和F1, J1, B1,H1B在美国出生子女没有公民权
“It is simple. It is clear. It is plain. The 14th Amendment’s guarantee is regardless of race, color or background. And this principle, grounded in fairness and accountability and inclusivity, has remained a constitutional bedrock for 127 years.”
#30 Re: （转载）今天最高法院6：3的判决，非法移民和F1, J1, B1,H1B在美国出生子女没有公民权
Reminder of previous rulings:
Sure—here’s the same text split into separate entries for clarity, still under 1000 characters in total:
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United States v. Wong Kim Ark (1898):
A child born in the U.S. is a citizen, even if parents are not citizens.
"Every person born in the United States…becomes at once a citizen."
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Plyler v. Doe (1982):
Undocumented immigrants are still subject to U.S. jurisdiction.
"No plausible distinction…can be drawn."
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INS v. Rios-Pineda (1985):
"There is no question that the child, born in the United States, is a citizen."
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Hamdi v. Rumsfeld (2004):
"The Fourteenth Amendment draws a clear line: persons born in the United States…are citizens."
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Sessions v. Morales-Santana (2017):
"The Fourteenth Amendment’s Citizenship Clause…declaring that all persons born…are citizens."
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Courts have consistently affirmed birthright citizenship with only narrow exceptions like children of diplomats or enemy occupiers.
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Sure—here’s the same text split into separate entries for clarity, still under 1000 characters in total:
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United States v. Wong Kim Ark (1898):
A child born in the U.S. is a citizen, even if parents are not citizens.
"Every person born in the United States…becomes at once a citizen."
---
Plyler v. Doe (1982):
Undocumented immigrants are still subject to U.S. jurisdiction.
"No plausible distinction…can be drawn."
---
INS v. Rios-Pineda (1985):
"There is no question that the child, born in the United States, is a citizen."
---
Hamdi v. Rumsfeld (2004):
"The Fourteenth Amendment draws a clear line: persons born in the United States…are citizens."
---
Sessions v. Morales-Santana (2017):
"The Fourteenth Amendment’s Citizenship Clause…declaring that all persons born…are citizens."
---
Courts have consistently affirmed birthright citizenship with only narrow exceptions like children of diplomats or enemy occupiers.
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#32 Re: （转载）今天最高法院6：3的判决，非法移民和F1, J1, B1,H1B在美国出生子女没有公民权
下一任民主党总统上台发EO要求补办所有过去四年出生在美国的所有人的公民手续。所有支持MAGA言论的绿卡持有者一律遣送。怎么办
#34 Re: （转载）今天最高法院6：3的判决，非法移民和F1, J1, B1,H1B在美国出生子女没有公民权
Class Action的官司可以适用于所有符合条件的。。。
现在判决的都是几个兰州州政府提的案子，都不是class action...
#35 Re: （转载）今天最高法院6：3的判决，非法移民和F1, J1, B1,H1B在美国出生子女没有公民权
站内帖子：德州出生的非法移民拿着德州医院准生证去加州办公民windseven 写了： 2025年 6月 27日 17:47 尼玛，判的是联邦法官的判决不能无限适用于全国。。。
对这个出生公民权，就是说目前三家联邦法庭对聚聚EO的判决不能用来在全国范围内阻挡EO的执行。。。
我爷爷李世民是一位万国来朝的伟大人物，现在我之所以落到这个地步，全是美帝的错。--皇汉粉蛆小将
#36 Re: （转载）今天最高法院6：3的判决，非法移民和F1, J1, B1,H1B在美国出生子女没有公民权
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在路上 写了： 2025年 6月 27日 17:36 此帖转自 在路上 在 书歌影视美食游 的帖子：今天最高法院6：3的判决，非法移民和F1, J1, B1,H1B在美国出生子女没有公民权
川普获得了重大胜利
#37 Re: （转载）今天最高法院6：3的判决，非法移民和F1, J1, B1,H1B在美国出生子女没有公民权
这不可能，现总统可以推翻前总统的EO就是法。。。
即使聚聚这个EO开始执行了，想要永续存在还得让高院长老释宪 或 立院修仙（这个基本不可能）
#41 Re: （转载）今天最高法院6：3的判决，非法移民和F1, J1, B1,H1B在美国出生子女没有公民权
所以说你是静态的看问题呢。真等到自由派掌握了高院，MAGA就会不听court order了。高院有几个师？
"There’s No Need to Guess. JD Vance Is Ready to Ignore the Courts.
I interviewed the vice president last year, and he didn’t mince words about wanting to provoke a constitutional crisis against the Supreme Court."
他们现在好像还听是因为高院基本是向着他们的。
"There’s No Need to Guess. JD Vance Is Ready to Ignore the Courts.
I interviewed the vice president last year, and he didn’t mince words about wanting to provoke a constitutional crisis against the Supreme Court."
他们现在好像还听是因为高院基本是向着他们的。
#42 美国最高法院将在10月份对出生公民权作出宪法解释
美国宪法第十四修正案明文规定："All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside."
而且，美国最高法院从1898年United States v. Wong Kim Ark的案件判例开始，就一直承认the jus soli principle的。
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_St ... ng_Kim_Ark
The Supreme Court's majority concluded that the phrase "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" referred to being required to obey U.S. law; on this basis, they interpreted the Citizenship Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment to grant citizenship to children born in the United States, with only a limited set of exceptions based on English common law. The Court held that being born to alien parents was not one of those exceptions.
现在，美国有22个州起诉特朗普政府的限制出生公民权的行政命令（executive order）违反宪法。但是，在其它28个没有起诉的州里，该行政命令可能从7月27日起生效。
如果美国最高法院在今年10月份对出生公民权作出宪法解释，那将给出最终的答案。如果美国最高法院裁决特朗普的行政命令违反宪法，那美国全境的出生公民权将得到保障。
https://www.financialexpress.com/world- ... t/3895579/
"Birthright citizenship will be decided in October, in the next session by the Supreme Court," Attorney General Pam Bondi said at a White House briefing on June 27, 2025.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cj9velv7z4no
Trump's Attorney General Pam Bondi said on Friday (June 27, 2025) that the Supreme Court will decide whether the U.S. will end birthright citizenship in October during its next session.
而且，美国最高法院从1898年United States v. Wong Kim Ark的案件判例开始，就一直承认the jus soli principle的。
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_St ... ng_Kim_Ark
The Supreme Court's majority concluded that the phrase "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" referred to being required to obey U.S. law; on this basis, they interpreted the Citizenship Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment to grant citizenship to children born in the United States, with only a limited set of exceptions based on English common law. The Court held that being born to alien parents was not one of those exceptions.
现在，美国有22个州起诉特朗普政府的限制出生公民权的行政命令（executive order）违反宪法。但是，在其它28个没有起诉的州里，该行政命令可能从7月27日起生效。
如果美国最高法院在今年10月份对出生公民权作出宪法解释，那将给出最终的答案。如果美国最高法院裁决特朗普的行政命令违反宪法，那美国全境的出生公民权将得到保障。
https://www.financialexpress.com/world- ... t/3895579/
"Birthright citizenship will be decided in October, in the next session by the Supreme Court," Attorney General Pam Bondi said at a White House briefing on June 27, 2025.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cj9velv7z4no
Trump's Attorney General Pam Bondi said on Friday (June 27, 2025) that the Supreme Court will decide whether the U.S. will end birthright citizenship in October during its next session.
上次由 truth 在 2025年 7月 4日 16:31 修改。
#43 Re: （转载）今天最高法院6：3的判决，“会导致”非法移民和F1, J1, B1,H1B在美国出生子女没有公民权
30天 7.27. 美弟28个红州的就生效了哦 只能自己去告 class action
知道很多人的居住环境以后 我终于明白为啥会有这些想法了
#44 Re: （转载）今天最高法院6：3的判决，非法移民和F1, J1, B1,H1B在美国出生子女没有公民权
打倒公检法fieldman 写了： 2025年 6月 28日 11:45 所以说你是静态的看问题呢。真等到自由派掌握了高院，MAGA就会不听court order了。高院有几个师？
"There’s No Need to Guess. JD Vance Is Ready to Ignore the Courts.
I interviewed the vice president last year, and he didn’t mince words about wanting to provoke a constitutional crisis against the Supreme Court."
他们现在好像还听是因为高院基本是向着他们的。
知道很多人的居住环境以后 我终于明白为啥会有这些想法了