4-Way Stop 路口怎么走

[ShuiNi]

4-Way Stop 路口。视频车直行，白车左转。大家感觉视频车有没有走错，是该白车先走还是视频车先走？

不同的人对规则的理解不同，有些人认为白车比特斯拉先到路口，所以白车有路权。有些人认为两个车都停在线后等另一辆左转车通过，所以双方同时进入路口，这时候白车左转，应该让视频车先直行通过。

[mi6]

4-Way Stop 路口。视频车直行，白车左转。大家感觉视频车有没有走错，是该白车先走还是视频车先走？

不同的人对规则的理解不同，有些人认为白车比特斯拉先到路口，所以白车有路权。有些人认为两个车都停在线后等另一辆左转车通过，所以双方同时进入路口，这时候白车左转，应该让视频车先直行通过。

white car's turn. Tesla is a jerk.

“有些人认为两个车都停在线后等另一辆左转车通过，所以双方同时进入路口，这时候白车左转，应该让视频车先直行通过。” - this is bullshit. The white car has been waiting at the stop sign. Tesla was one car away.

[Piglet]

All-way stop: 1st come, 1st go

[goFan]

白车先到路口的，该白车先走，
但是白车走了几步才打左转灯，视频车可能认为两车同时直行也可，所以也开出去了，
这时白车要左转，显然应该让直行的视频车。

哦，白车左转灯一直在闪，那就是白车该先，视频车抢了

[量子战士]

白车先到路口的，该白车先走，
但是白车走了几步才打左转灯，视频车可能认为两车同时直行也可，所以也开出去了，
这时白车要左转，显然应该让直行的视频车。

哦，白车左转灯一直在闪，那就是白车该先，视频车抢了

白车在等候的时候就一直闪着左转灯。

[fantasist]

白车先停在stop sign前，也打了左转灯，明显视频车抢行。我碰到过类似的情况，对面的直行车走掉后我开始左转，对面第二辆车不等就往外冲，害得我急刹。那个车的司机没视频车这么jerk，知道错了停下来让我先走。

[ShuiNi]

white car's turn. Tesla is a jerk.

“有些人认为两个车都停在线后等另一辆左转车通过，所以双方同时进入路口，这时候白车左转，应该让视频车先直行通过。” - this is bullshit. The white car has been waiting at the stop sign. Tesla was one car away.

"That would be true if they didn't both have to wait for the crossing cars. Since both cars are ready to go at the same time the left turning car yields. If there wasn't crossing traffic the white car could have started moving before the Tesla completed its stop so the Tesla would yield but that isn't what happened here."

[swuwan]

这玩意儿就看警察在不在，没有警察的话，抢先开的一般都能先走

[ShuiNi]

白车先到路口的，该白车先走，
但是白车走了几步才打左转灯，视频车可能认为两车同时直行也可，所以也开出去了，
这时白车要左转，显然应该让直行的视频车。

哦，白车左转灯一直在闪，那就是白车该先，视频车抢了

[–]beargambogambo 13 points 4 days ago*

Just spoke with my friend after showing him the video who is a cop in California. His response was:

So the white car has to yield to the Tesla who has the right to proceed thru the intersection and then the white car can complete the turn with all others yielding to till white car finishes

[ShuiNi]

白车先到路口的，该白车先走，
但是白车走了几步才打左转灯，视频车可能认为两车同时直行也可，所以也开出去了，
这时白车要左转，显然应该让直行的视频车。

哦，白车左转灯一直在闪，那就是白车该先，视频车抢了

At an intersection with stop signs at all corners, you must yield the right-of-way to the first vehicle to come to a complete stop. If two vehicles stop at the same time, the vehicle on the left must yield to the vehicle on the right (Diagram 2-19).

a vehicle yielding the right-of-way to approaching vehicle turning right and a pedestrian crossing intersection

Diagram 2-20

At any intersection where you want to turn left or right, you must yield the right-of-way. If you are turning left, you must wait for approaching traffic to pass or turn and for pedestrians in or approaching your path to cross.

看你怎么理解If two vehicles stop at the same time。视频中因为之前的车左转，导致两辆车都停在线后等待。这算不算two vehicles stop at the same time呢？如果是，那直行车就获得了路权。

[BCQ1]

差不多行了，四个人一起到，我都是摆手让别人，三个走完了我再走好了

[mi6]

white car's turn. Tesla is a jerk.

“有些人认为两个车都停在线后等另一辆左转车通过，所以双方同时进入路口，这时候白车左转，应该让视频车先直行通过。” - this is bullshit. The white car has been waiting at the stop sign. Tesla was one car away.

没仔细看，那边有个红车过来。那么是白车的问题。白车可以到路中，等tesla过了以后左转，但是不能进入对方车道。

[off]

视屏车抢道了。

first come（stop）,first go完整的意思是第一个到stop sign的车离开路口后，第二个到达的车才能进入路口。

[ShuiNi]

视屏车抢道了。

first come（stop）,first go完整的意思是第一个到stop sign的车离开路口后，第二个到达的车才能进入路口。

我们这里的官方的交通规则：At an intersection with stop signs at all corners, you must yield the right-of-way to the first vehicle to come to a complete stop. If two vehicles stop at the same time, the vehicle on the left must yield to the vehicle on the righ. At any intersection where you want to turn left or right, you must yield the right-of-way. If you are turning left, you must wait for approaching traffic to pass or turn and for pedestrians in or approaching your path to cross. (在所有拐角处都有停车标志的路口，您必须礼让第一辆车完全停下的车辆。如果两辆车同时停下，左侧车辆必须礼让右侧车辆。在任何您想要左转或右转的路口，您都必须礼让路权。如果您要左转，您必须等待来车通过或转弯，并等待行人穿过您道路或正在接近您的道路。)

白车确实是先到了，但是因为红车左转，他没法走，这时候白车和视频车是同时停在线后的，属于If two vehicles stop at the same time。红车走了之后双方同时进入路口，这时候视频车直走有路权。

[snowinwind]

你这就是胡扯了，明显白车先停的，怎么叫stop at the same time？
stop指的是先到位置停车等待通过。

我们这里的官方的交通规则：At an intersection with stop signs at all corners, you must yield the right-of-way to the first vehicle to come to a complete stop. If two vehicles stop at the same time, the vehicle on the left must yield to the vehicle on the righ. At any intersection where you want to turn left or right, you must yield the right-of-way. If you are turning left, you must wait for approaching traffic to pass or turn and for pedestrians in or approaching your path to cross. (在所有拐角处都有停车标志的路口，您必须礼让第一辆车完全停下的车辆。如果两辆车同时停下，左侧车辆必须礼让右侧车辆。在任何您想要左转或右转的路口，您都必须礼让路权。如果您要左转，您必须等待来车通过或转弯，并等待行人穿过您道路或正在接近您的道路。)

白车确实是先到了，但是因为红车左转，他没法走，这时候白车和视频车是同时停在线后的，属于If two vehicles stop at the same time。红车走了之后双方同时进入路口，这时候视频车直走有路权。

[ShuiNi]

你这就是胡扯了，明显白车先停的，怎么叫stop at the same time？
stop指的是先到位置停车等待通过。

是stop at the same time. 不是came to stop at the same time.。也就是说，即使你先到路口，你先走有路权。但是因为各种原因你没有走，你的优先路权就消失了。这时候判定的情况转换为大家stop at the same time，左侧先走，直行高于转弯。所以加州的警察认为，视频车有路权，白车没有路权。

[–]beargambogambo 13 points 4 days ago*

Just spoke with my friend after showing him the video who is a cop in California. His response was:

So the white car has to yield to the Tesla who has the right to proceed thru the intersection and then the white car can complete the turn with all others yielding to till white car finishes

[lyy]

哪有那么复杂，相当于四条队排一个窗口，轮换着每条队走一个人，公平公正。

[ShuiNi]

哪有那么复杂，相当于四条队排一个窗口，轮换着每条队走一个人，公平公正。

交通系统最重要的安全，其次是效率，最后是公平。

现实中这种堵车的路口不是轮着走一个人，而是横竖车道交替通行，转弯让直行。

[Trump]

楼主是直行特斯拉？
按你的理解可以让对面的白车永远无法左转，只要另外两个方向一直有直行的车。
4way stop 的路口，是first come first go. 没有转弯让直行一说。

[wolf_north_1234]

是stop at the same time. 不是came to stop at the same time.。也就是说，即使你先到路口，你先走有路权。但是因为各种原因你没有走，你的优先路权就消失了。这时候判定的情况转换为大家stop at the same time，左侧先走，直行高于转弯。所以加州的警察认为，视频车有路权，白车没有路权。

[–]beargambogambo 13 points 4 days ago*

Just spoke with my friend after showing him the video who is a cop in California. His response was:

So the white car has to yield to the Tesla who has the right to proceed thru the intersection and then the white car can complete the turn with all others yielding to till white car finishes

披上你朋友的马夹，用英文，能增加说服力?

Four way stop, 先到先走。

对面白车先到，先走是正确的。