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如果你们看一些他和大学生的辩论，就发现
pascaldechin 写了： 2025年 9月 17日 17:13如果你们看一些他和大学生的辩论，就发现
- 他基本都去一些很不知名的烂校，例如这次的UVU。
- 这些烂校的学生，素质是真的差，所以显得Kirk很厉害。差到什么地步，绝大部分学生，话都说不清楚，完全没法说完整的句子。经济系学生，居然不知道 von Mises 和 Hayek。有一个女生，就是那个著名的漏奶妹，长得不错，但胸大无脑，居然说，你都30岁了，来和我们这些大学生辩论，好意思吗？我也是醉了。Kirk问她有啥具体观点，她居然支支吾吾完全说不出个具体的观点来。看了这些视频，只是加深了一个印象，就是美国教育，真的彻底是完蛋了。美国如果不靠移民的话，是完全没有未来的。
- 所以Kirk团队是做了精准的市场地位的，就是不去牛校而主攻烂笑。你见过他去常春藤吗？斯坦福？伯克利？都没有。唯一一次去牛校（不知道是否脑子搭错了），是剑桥，结果被剑桥学生们秒杀了。剑桥学生确实厉害很多，语速很快，句子完整，条理清楚，知识丰富，和美国烂笑里一句完整的话都说不清楚的混子学生，完全不是一个物种。从此以后kirk更加坚定了不去牛校的原则。
一般英国人的英语遣词造句水平本来就比美国人强很多
有的学校领导对tpusa有清醒的认识，也有的怕他去了在伤口上撒盐引起更多骚乱，就竖决拒绝了，这些学校都有先见之明，比如（引自PBS):
“He mainly drew young conservatives — many sporting "Make America Great Again" hats — who said they often felt unwelcome or out of place at school. And he had hundreds of Turning Point employees and volunteers there to recruit students into becoming GOP voters and activists themselves.
The real draw, however, was Kirk arguing with students. He seemed to relish jeers when he had a less friendly audience.
Kirk frequently repeated Trump's false claims that former Vice President Kamala Harris was directly responsible for all immigrants who were in the U.S. illegally. He called George Floyd, a Black man whose death by a Minneapolis police officer sparked a national debate over racial injustice, a "scumbag."
He espoused culturally conservative views, advocating for gun rights, condemning abortion, holding up women as wives and mothers — and men as heads of households. And he mastered the art of the "what about?" retort, turning questions back on progressives and liberals who challenged him.
Kirk was sometimes kept away from schools. In 2018, Turning Point said a Chicago university denied requests for him to speak on their campus citing safety concerns, and a Florida high school would not allow him to speak to students two months after a teenager with an assault rifle had killed 17 people there.
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其中“relish jeers” 是享受奚落别人带来的快感的意思。
pascaldechin 写了： 2025年 9月 17日 17:13如果你们看一些他和大学生的辩论，就发现
- 他基本都去一些很不知名的烂校，例如这次的UVU。
- 这些烂校的学生，素质是真的差，所以显得Kirk很厉害。差到什么地步，绝大部分学生，话都说不清楚，完全没法说完整的句子。经济系学生，居然不知道 von Mises 和 Hayek。有一个女生，就是那个著名的漏奶妹，长得不错，但胸大无脑，居然说，你都30岁了，来和我们这些大学生辩论，好意思吗？我也是醉了。Kirk问她有啥具体观点，她居然支支吾吾完全说不出个具体的观点来。看了这些视频，只是加深了一个印象，就是美国教育，真的彻底是完蛋了。美国如果不靠移民的话，是完全没有未来的。
- 所以Kirk团队是做了精准的市场地位的，就是不去牛校而主攻烂笑。你见过他去常春藤吗？斯坦福？伯克利？都没有。唯一一次去牛校（不知道是否脑子搭错了），是剑桥，结果被剑桥学生们秒杀了。剑桥学生确实厉害很多，语速很快，句子完整，条理清楚，知识丰富，和美国烂笑里一句完整的话都说不清楚的混子学生，完全不是一个物种。从此以后kirk更加坚定了不去牛校的原则。
剑桥的辩论你看了么？
伯克利是著名的左棍用暴力威胁阻止右派活动。
要说参加辩论的学生素质差，那倒没错。素质高能变成左棍吗？！LOL
公平的说Tpusa早年并非是商业行为，是由当时年仅18岁的他和71岁的一个老茶党共同发起的，他们确实是maga运动的马前卒。因为激进引起商界右翼的资金扶持，拿到第一桶金后开始发掘“金矿”，并由川普小儿子正式引入政界上层：
“ Kirk’s ability to stir up controversy and gain attention made him a wealthy man. By 2023 he was living in a $4.75m Spanish-style property in a gated Arizona country club that boasts a guest casita, a “resort-style” pool and views of the Sonoran Desert. TPUSA tax records showed that Kirk’s salary rose from $27,000 in 2016 to more than $407,000 by 2021, and his income was bolstered further by the success of his podcast and public speaking fees.”
引上引自independent
多年经营Tpusa让他找到一条可以同时传播maga教义和发家致富的捷径，收集那些宣扬左派理念教授的黑名单（professor watchlist)，有针对性选择学校，挑高度敏感争议性的议题，去和 Z世代的学生“辨论”。虽然有相当多的听众并不认为是真正的辨论。
很不幸，他辍学的经历反而给他加了分，看，我是敢于反毒草教育的英雄，而你们是被洗脑的弃儿，DEI的受害者。
“I didn’t even graduate community college,” Kirk said. “I represent most of the country. Actually, still, the majority of the country does not have a college degree and if I may, you know, bluntly critique the Democratic party, you guys have become so college-credentialed and educated that you guys snobbishly look on the muscular class of this country.”
以上引自guardian
很多社会阅历不深，人生观尚未成熟的大学生（想想那时的我们自己）很容易被这种“辨论”鼓惑：
Ahead of the 2024 presidential election, Kirk visited approximately 25 college campuses in key battleground states as part of his “You’re Being Brainwashed” tour, with the intention of mobilizing Gen-Z voter turnout. He produced multiple viral videos showing himself engaging and debating directly with students, and Newsweek argued that his tour played a “critical role” in Trump’s return to office. The president reportedly called Kirk to ask his advice on Cabinet appointments.
和其他任何事物一样，凡事都有两面性：他这种挑拨式的“辨论”不可避免的引发校园两派之间的“战火”：
“If Kirk’s aggressive, often rude style and frequent forays into explicit racism and sexism ruffled feathers with more traditional conservative groups on campus, he quickly surpassed them in relevance. Boedy recalled attending an event with Kirk and Black conservative activist Candace Owens, a TPUSA veteran who resigned from the organization in 2019 after making comments in which she appeared to defend Adolf Hitler. When a group of Black students raised their fists and walked out of the event in protest, Kirk and Owens mocked them and stirred the crowd to cheer them off. “It was emblematic,” said Boedy. “They’re in it for the culture war and that does mean warring against other people.”
而且从大学扩展至中学，逐渐变了味道，有的根本不是辨论而是故意羞辱对方：
“It’s being presented right now with this notion that everyone was doing these debates because they wanted to arrive at the truth,” said Hasan. “The ultimate purpose of these sorts of debate culture, focused video sequences, is not to actually arrive at some kind of hidden truth through discourse or the Socratic method, but more so to just ritualistically humiliate your interlocutors.”
Kirk’s influence soon expanded well beyond campuses, said Boedy, whose forthcoming book examines Kirk’s mobilization efforts in churches, media and beyond. “Turning Point expanded beyond merely college campus wars. Kirk used the college campus wars as a springboard to talk about the larger national culture war,” Boedy added, noting that TPUSA now has more high school chapters than it has college ones, and that the group is also involved in canvassing for conservative candidates.
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以上引自Guardian
你拿他和小胡子比，这个就太抬举他了。
小胡子真的是底层混过的，穷困潦倒。后来志愿参加德军，作战勇猛，还得了一级铁十字勋章（他的勋章含金量非常高的），中了毒气险些失明。。。小胡子说话是有底气的。
右派辩论主打转移话题，虚假陈述，强词夺理，激怒对手然后装受害者。
蒙古国有愚豕浮阳外越，便结不通，频下清个痢虚之气。虽屡试开赛露之剂，终无寸效。遂引诣兽医师诊之。医者摩其腹良久，谓主人曰："咄！此蠢物腹中空若悬磬，纵投万斛通肠开赛之剂，犹决涸泽而求鲋也，岂有济哉？"
本质上就是个学都上不明白的loser找到了个当网红忽悠傻子的赛道。客观地说，能找到这个赛道割这些傻韭菜还是需要些精力和行动力的，需要不要脸，知道韭菜喜欢听什么，还要有精力到处割。这群傻韭菜看不到一个最基本的事实，就是这货力挺的嫖娼卖B帝跟他忽悠的所谓右的信仰和道德半点儿关系都没有。
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