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#1 下周是诺奖周,据传物理诺奖大概率发给量子计算理论

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如预测成真,几个量子妖股又要冲天一段时间了

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#2 Re: 下周是诺奖周,据传物理诺奖大概率发给量子计算理论

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理论很好,实现太难

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#3 Re: 下周是诺奖周,据传物理诺奖大概率发给量子计算理论

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明白人都知道量子计算离开实际应用距离遥远。

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#4 Re: 下周是诺奖周,据传物理诺奖大概率发给量子计算理论

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Yellen 写了: 2025年 10月 3日 15:37

理论很好,实现太难

这恰恰是下一个泡沫的必要条件。理论好就可以往死了吹,实现难,才要大量资金投入,GDP就来了

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#5 Re: 下周是诺奖周,据传物理诺奖大概率发给量子计算理论

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somesome 写了: 2025年 10月 3日 15:41

这恰恰是下一个泡沫的必要条件。理论好就可以往死了吹,实现难,才要大量资金投入,GDP就来了

AI需要数据中心,这个需要啥?

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#6 Re: 下周是诺奖周,据传物理诺奖大概率发给量子计算理论

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诺奖基金是不是也在股市里?
如果是这样,很多事情就可以理解。

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#7 Re: 下周是诺奖周,据传物理诺奖大概率发给量子计算理论

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直接投降 写了: 2025年 10月 3日 15:48

AI需要数据中心,这个需要啥?

量子计算机(中心)made by 显卡

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#8 Re: 下周是诺奖周,据传物理诺奖大概率发给量子计算理论

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所以才发给理论啊

与光纤、蓝光led等情况不同,这些不涉及太多理论,必须有大规模应用才能发

而理论只要是正确的就行

量子计算理论已被潘建伟等人的实验工作证实了,所以满足条件

Crocodile 写了: 2025年 10月 3日 15:38

明白人都知道量子计算离开实际应用距离遥远。

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#9 Re: 下周是诺奖周,据传物理诺奖大概率发给量子计算理论

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pingc223 写了: 2025年 10月 3日 15:52

所以才发给理论啊

与光纤、蓝光led等情况不同,这些不涉及太多理论,必须有大规模应用才能发

而理论只要是正确的就行

量子计算理论已被潘建伟等人的实验工作证实了,所以满足条件

我们可以赌10伪币,我赌今年量子计算理论拿不到诺贝尔奖。

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#10 Re: 下周是诺奖周,据传物理诺奖大概率发给量子计算理论

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polymarket上怎么没人赌?只有和平的

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#11 Re: 下周是诺奖周,据传物理诺奖大概率发给量子计算理论

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小圈子里讨论,都在等下周二电话的

cernivtsi 写了: 2025年 10月 3日 16:05

polymarket上怎么没人赌?只有和平的

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#12 Re: 下周是诺奖周,据传物理诺奖大概率发给量子计算理论

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pingc223 写了: 2025年 10月 3日 16:08

小圈子里讨论,都在等下周二电话的

不赌?那就算了。

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#13 Re: 下周是诺奖周,据传物理诺奖大概率发给量子计算理论

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japamer 写了: 2025年 10月 3日 15:50

诺奖基金是不是也在股市里?
如果是这样,很多事情就可以理解。

果然是这样:https://www.wenxuecity.com/news/2025/10 ... 60503.html

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#14 Re: 下周是诺奖周,据传物理诺奖大概率发给量子计算理论

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看来圈内的消息是对的,果然给了量子计算的奠基人

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#15 Re: 下周是诺奖周,据传物理诺奖大概率发给量子计算理论

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pingc223 写了: 2025年 10月 7日 18:17

看来圈内的消息是对的,果然给了量子计算的奠基人

奖给他们是因为量子隧穿效应,和量子计算没啥关系吧?

Quantum mechanics allows a particle to move straight through a barrier, using a process called tunnelling. As soon as large numbers of particles are involved, quantum mechanical effects usually become insignificant. The laureates’ experiments demonstrated that quantum mechanical properties can be made concrete on a macroscopic scale.

In 1984 and 1985, John Clarke, Michel H. Devoret and John M. Martinis conducted a series of experiments with an electronic circuit built of superconductors, components that can conduct a current with no electrical resistance. In the circuit, the superconducting components were separated by a thin layer of non-conductive material, a setup known as a Josephson junction. By refining and measuring all the various properties of their circuit, they were able to control and explore the phenomena that arose when they passed a current through it. Together, the charged particles moving through the superconductor comprised a system that behaved as if they were a single particle that filled the entire circuit.

This macroscopic particle-like system is initially in a state in which current flows without any voltage. The system is trapped in this state, as if behind a barrier that it cannot cross. In the experiment the system shows its quantum character by managing to escape the zero-voltage state through tunnelling. The system’s changed state is detected through the appearance of a voltage.

The laureates could also demonstrate that the system behaves in the manner predicted by quantum mechanics – it is quantised, meaning that it only absorbs or emits specific amounts of energy.

“It is wonderful to be able to celebrate the way that century-old quantum mechanics continually offers new surprises. It is also enormously useful, as quantum mechanics is the foundation of all digital technology,” says Olle Eriksson, Chair of the Nobel Committee for Physics.

The transistors in computer microchips are one example of the established quantum technology that surrounds us. This year’s Nobel Prize in Physics has provided opportunities for developing the next generation of quantum technology, including quantum cryptography, quantum computers, and quantum sensors.

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#16 Re: 下周是诺奖周,据传物理诺奖大概率发给量子计算理论

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Yellen 写了: 2025年 10月 7日 18:32

奖给他们是因为量子隧穿效应,和量子计算没啥关系吧?

Quantum mechanics allows a particle to move straight through a barrier, using a process called tunnelling. As soon as large numbers of particles are involved, quantum mechanical effects usually become insignificant. The laureates’ experiments demonstrated that quantum mechanical properties can be made concrete on a macroscopic scale.

In 1984 and 1985, John Clarke, Michel H. Devoret and John M. Martinis conducted a series of experiments with an electronic circuit built of superconductors, components that can conduct a current with no electrical resistance. In the circuit, the superconducting components were separated by a thin layer of non-conductive material, a setup known as a Josephson junction. By refining and measuring all the various properties of their circuit, they were able to control and explore the phenomena that arose when they passed a current through it. Together, the charged particles moving through the superconductor comprised a system that behaved as if they were a single particle that filled the entire circuit.

This macroscopic particle-like system is initially in a state in which current flows without any voltage. The system is trapped in this state, as if behind a barrier that it cannot cross. In the experiment the system shows its quantum character by managing to escape the zero-voltage state through tunnelling. The system’s changed state is detected through the appearance of a voltage.

The laureates could also demonstrate that the system behaves in the manner predicted by quantum mechanics – it is quantised, meaning that it only absorbs or emits specific amounts of energy.

“It is wonderful to be able to celebrate the way that century-old quantum mechanics continually offers new surprises. It is also enormously useful, as quantum mechanics is the foundation of all digital technology,” says Olle Eriksson, Chair of the Nobel Committee for Physics.

The transistors in computer microchips are one example of the established quantum technology that surrounds us. This year’s Nobel Prize in Physics has provided opportunities for developing the next generation of quantum technology, including quantum cryptography, quantum computers, and quantum sensors.

属实。超导电路的量子隧穿。算是颁给了大忽悠和股市热潮板块—-量子计算机。

不是量子计算。

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#17 Re: 下周是诺奖周,据传物理诺奖大概率发给量子计算理论

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关系太大了,没有他们的工作就没有量子计算,可以说他们是量子计算的grandfather,如果说father不合适的话

这就像去年的AI诺奖颁给了John hopfield它们,没有给google那几位

Yellen 写了: 2025年 10月 7日 18:32

奖给他们是因为量子隧穿效应,和量子计算没啥关系吧?

Quantum mechanics allows a particle to move straight through a barrier, using a process called tunnelling. As soon as large numbers of particles are involved, quantum mechanical effects usually become insignificant. The laureates’ experiments demonstrated that quantum mechanical properties can be made concrete on a macroscopic scale.

In 1984 and 1985, John Clarke, Michel H. Devoret and John M. Martinis conducted a series of experiments with an electronic circuit built of superconductors, components that can conduct a current with no electrical resistance. In the circuit, the superconducting components were separated by a thin layer of non-conductive material, a setup known as a Josephson junction. By refining and measuring all the various properties of their circuit, they were able to control and explore the phenomena that arose when they passed a current through it. Together, the charged particles moving through the superconductor comprised a system that behaved as if they were a single particle that filled the entire circuit.

This macroscopic particle-like system is initially in a state in which current flows without any voltage. The system is trapped in this state, as if behind a barrier that it cannot cross. In the experiment the system shows its quantum character by managing to escape the zero-voltage state through tunnelling. The system’s changed state is detected through the appearance of a voltage.

The laureates could also demonstrate that the system behaves in the manner predicted by quantum mechanics – it is quantised, meaning that it only absorbs or emits specific amounts of energy.

“It is wonderful to be able to celebrate the way that century-old quantum mechanics continually offers new surprises. It is also enormously useful, as quantum mechanics is the foundation of all digital technology,” says Olle Eriksson, Chair of the Nobel Committee for Physics.

The transistors in computer microchips are one example of the established quantum technology that surrounds us. This year’s Nobel Prize in Physics has provided opportunities for developing the next generation of quantum technology, including quantum cryptography, quantum computers, and quantum sensors.

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#18 Re: 下周是诺奖周,据传物理诺奖大概率发给量子计算理论

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pingc223 写了: 2025年 10月 7日 19:13

关系太大了,没有他们的工作就没有量子计算,可以说他们是量子计算的grandfather,如果说father不合适的话

这就像去年的AI诺奖颁给了John hopfield它们,没有给google那几位

您。。。物理一般吧?!

量子计算理论的数学与逻辑,几乎完全独立于物理载体。

超导电路量子隧穿,只是一种可能实现量子计算的一种物理方式。在实验室级别的量子原型机的可能性上,有些许进步,而已。。。当然,也很大很大可能黄了。。。

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#19 Re: 下周是诺奖周,据传物理诺奖大概率发给量子计算理论

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牛皮啊,恭喜发财!

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#20 Re: 下周是诺奖周,据传物理诺奖大概率发给量子计算理论

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你一定是文科生了!

量子计算所基于的基本物理理论如量子叠加、纠缠、幺正演化、测量塌缩等都是上世纪早些年发展出的量子力学的基本理论,所以你强调的量子计算理论方法完全属于量子力学理论范畴,后面的发展都是小打小闹,没有什么新意

一般专业人士讲的量子计算都是紧密捆绑可以物理实现的量子计算机模型,比如deutsch 的量子图灵机,peter phor 的一些工作等,他们或许可以称得上量子计算更为直接的贡献者 - father。不结合物理载体的实现,量子计算只是纸上谈兵。

超导量子计算机不是“一种可能实现量子计算的一种物理方式”,而是最主要的实现方式,其它的物理实现方式仍然处于空中楼阁阶段

建议门外汉参与讨论前,先学点基本的量子力学知识

cboe 写了: 2025年 10月 7日 19:33

您。。。物理一般吧?!

量子计算理论的数学与逻辑,几乎完全独立于物理载体。

超导电路量子隧穿,只是一种可能实现量子计算的一种物理方式。在实验室级别的量子原型机的可能性上,有些许进步,而已。。。当然,也很大很大可能黄了。。。

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