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deepseek炒股第一名
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#23 Re: deepseek炒股第一名
somesome 写了： 2025年 10月 20日 09:28短线意义才大。
抄短线是AI优势最大的地方，短时间数据获取+分析+算力都是人力不可比拟的，可以算是看着你的牌出牌，长线AI优势就没了，整个世界政治经济体系的变化不是简单大数据模型能够分析出来的。长线人脑是优势，AI是劣势。
短线都赢不了，长线就更没戏了
你讲的很有道理。 我想他们的意思是样本还不够多，只有两天的样本，如果炒100天短线，不知道最后盈利怎么样
#24 Re: deepseek炒股第一名
cernivtsi 写了： 2025年 10月 20日 09:24同一个prompt，当前市场数据，每分钟发给所有LLM，读过没发现有啥不公平的
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It has been 3788 minutes since you started trading. The current time is 2025-10-20 13:11:03.985411 and you've been invoked 1577 times. Below, we are providing you with a variety of state data, price data, and predictive signals so you can discover alpha. Below that is your current account information, value, performance, positions, etc. ALL OF THE PRICE OR SIGNAL DATA BELOW IS ORDERED: OLDEST → NEWEST Timeframes note: Unless stated otherwise in a section title, intraday series are provided at 3‑minute intervals. If a coin uses a different interval, it is explicitly stated in that coin’s section. CURRENT MARKET STATE FOR ALL COINS ALL BTC DATA current_price = 110749.5, current_ema20 = 110862.837, current_macd = -21.257, current_rsi (7 period) = 29.388 In addition, here is the latest BTC open interest and funding rate for perps (the instrument you are trading): Open Interest: Latest: 26629.87 Average: 26620.67 Funding Rate: 1.25e-05 Intraday series (by minute, oldest → latest): Mid prices: [110991.5, 110918.0, 110940.0, 110840.0, 110772.0, 110807.5, 110811.5, 110804.0, 110761.0, 110749.5] EMA indicators (20‑period): [110949.109, 110946.241, 110944.218, 110934.388, 110918.732, 110908.662, 110898.313, 110888.474, 110874.715, 110862.837] MACD indicators: [80.908, 68.646, 58.735, 43.6, 25.582, 14.603, 4.798, -3.337, -13.741, -21.257] RSI indicators (7‑Period): [41.551, 41.238, 42.255, 32.937, 27.054, 35.229, 33.889, 33.32, 27.776, 29.388] RSI indicators (14‑Period): [50.48, 50.268, 50.713, 44.686, 40.324, 43.896, 43.057, 42.719, 39.325, 39.93] Longer‑term context (4‑hour timeframe): 20‑Period EMA: 108749.175 vs. 50‑Period EMA: 110393.198 3‑Period ATR: 685.392 vs. 14‑Period ATR: 1003.984 Current Volume: 109.424 vs. Average Volume: 4973.824 MACD indicators: [-1415.557, -1317.267, -1264.176, -1124.493, -953.42, -778.528, -653.613, -416.992, -149.474, 49.22] RSI indicators (14‑Period): [40.662, 41.065, 38.795, 45.739, 49.35, 51.486, 49.901, 58.51, 62.59, 61.529] ALL ETH DATA current_price = 4033.45, current_ema20 = 4031.609, current_macd = 1.611, current_rsi (7 period) = 50.743 In addition, here is the latest ETH open interest and funding rate for perps: Open Interest: Latest: 412591.02 Average: 412803.79 Funding Rate: 1.25e-05 Intraday series (3‑minute intervals, oldest → latest): Mid prices: [4029.6, 4027.5, 4030.25, 4028.35, 4029.75, 4033.5, 4037.0, 4038.0, 4032.75, 4033.45] EMA indicators (20‑period): [4030.135, 4029.874, 4029.867, 4029.728, 4029.801, 4030.144, 4030.825, 4031.347, 4031.504, 4031.609] MACD indicators: [2.061, 1.577, 1.372, 1.084, 1.013, 1.177, 1.604, 1.84, 1.741, 1.611] RSI indicators (7‑Period): [38.673, 37.633, 47.51, 42.888, 51.197, 60.464, 69.539, 65.071, 52.166, 50.743] RSI indicators (14‑Period): [48.888, 48.345, 51.805, 49.713, 52.792, 56.732, 61.399, 59.623, 54.067, 53.417] Longer‑term context (4‑hour timeframe): 20‑Period EMA: 3952.108 vs. 50‑Period EMA: 3993.082 3‑Period ATR: 26.768 vs. 14‑Period ATR: 50.878 Current Volume: 89.451 vs. Average Volume: 123371.337 MACD indicators: [-40.871, -35.903, -33.125, -27.619, -19.027, -11.599, -5.895, 3.045, 11.546, 16.535] RSI indicators (14‑Period): [46.333, 48.1, 46.278, 50.212, 54.98, 55.534, 55.156, 60.327, 61.969, 59.311] ALL SOL DATA current_price = 192.505, current_ema20 = 192.152, current_macd = 0.214, current_rsi (7 period) = 61.577 In addition, here is the latest SOL open interest and funding rate for perps: Open Interest: Latest: 3061718.12 Average: 3052929.63 Funding Rate: 1.15349e-05 Intraday series (3‑minute intervals, oldest → latest): SOL mid prices: [191.92, 191.835, 192.02, 191.885, 192.06, 192.365, 192.61, 192.645, 192.52, 192.505] EMA indicators (20‑period): [191.886, 191.88, 191.892, 191.893, 191.917, 191.963, 192.02, 192.074, 192.121, 192.152] MACD indicators: [0.164, 0.139, 0.132, 0.117, 0.123, 0.147, 0.177, 0.201, 0.214, 0.214] RSI indicators (7‑Period): [43.979, 43.979, 52.375, 47.491, 58.719, 66.961, 71.248, 72.041, 69.794, 61.577] RSI indicators (14‑Period): [50.383, 50.383, 54.255, 51.699, 57.136, 61.771, 64.422, 64.913, 63.962, 60.463] Longer‑term context (4‑hour timeframe): 20‑Period EMA: 188.876 vs. 50‑Period EMA: 192.603 3‑Period ATR: 1.737 vs. 14‑Period ATR: 3.344 Current Volume: 3001.68 vs. Average Volume: 923154.544 MACD indicators: [-2.673, -2.399, -2.242, -1.839, -1.379, -1.158, -1.061, -0.652, -0.224, 0.05] RSI indicators (14‑Period): [48.158, 47.235, 45.727, 50.771, 53.041, 49.919, 48.157, 54.395, 56.143, 54.704] ALL BNB DATA current_price = 1110.85, current_ema20 = 1113.114, current_macd = -0.235, current_rsi (7 period) = 29.754 In addition, here is the latest BNB open interest and funding rate for perps: Open Interest: Latest: 67292.05 Average: 67292.37 Funding Rate: -2.48736e-05 Intraday series (3‑minute intervals, oldest → latest): BNB mid prices: [1114.8, 1113.85, 1113.25, 1111.7, 1111.85, 1112.8, 1114.1, 1114.1, 1112.2, 1110.85] EMA indicators (20‑period): [1113.918, 1113.907, 1113.878, 1113.68, 1113.529, 1113.45, 1113.493, 1113.513, 1113.378, 1113.114] MACD indicators: [0.808, 0.69, 0.573, 0.332, 0.163, 0.077, 0.104, 0.109, -0.017, -0.235] RSI indicators (7‑Period): [46.963, 45.405, 43.713, 31.418, 34.974, 41.993, 53.662, 51.642, 38.215, 29.754] RSI indicators (14‑Period): [52.359, 51.506, 50.618, 43.371, 44.79, 47.617, 52.82, 51.894, 45.09, 39.819] Longer‑term context (4‑hour timeframe): 20‑Period EMA: 1114.027 vs. 50‑Period EMA: 1141.525 3‑Period ATR: 10.308 vs. 14‑Period ATR: 21.111 Current Volume: 2.341 vs. Average Volume: 8867.580 MACD indicators: [-26.74, -25.604, -24.949, -22.954, -19.558, -16.97, -15.283, -12.256, -10.128, -9.118] RSI indicators (14‑Period): [41.526, 41.323, 40.058, 44.237, 49.243, 48.365, 46.74, 51.745, 50.468, 47.896] ALL XRP DATA current_price = 2.44935, current_ema20 = 2.451, current_macd = -0.002, current_rsi (7 period) = 41.844 In addition, here is the latest XRP open interest and funding rate for perps: Open Interest: Latest: 39076932.0 Average: 39078418.8 Funding Rate: 7.1637e-06 Intraday series (3‑minute intervals, oldest → latest): XRP mid prices: [2.449, 2.449, 2.451, 2.449, 2.45, 2.451, 2.452, 2.45, 2.449, 2.44935] EMA indicators (20‑period): [2.452, 2.452, 2.451, 2.451, 2.451, 2.451, 2.451, 2.451, 2.451, 2.451] MACD indicators: [-0.003, -0.003, -0.002, -0.002, -0.002, -0.002, -0.002, -0.002, -0.002, -0.002] RSI indicators (7‑Period): [37.646, 40.644, 54.636, 45.06, 50.426, 54.986, 58.339, 43.291, 40.262, 41.844] RSI indicators (14‑Period): [40.172, 41.306, 47.229, 43.57, 45.957, 48.061, 49.643, 43.883, 42.553, 43.171] Longer‑term context (4‑hour timeframe): 20‑Period EMA: 2.393 vs. 50‑Period EMA: 2.445 3‑Period ATR: 0.022 vs. 14‑Period ATR: 0.04 Current Volume: 50202.0 vs. Average Volume: 9369441.853 MACD indicators: [-0.032, -0.028, -0.027, -0.023, -0.018, -0.014, -0.011, -0.005, 0.002, 0.007] RSI indicators (14‑Period): [46.783, 47.987, 45.489, 49.221, 52.153, 51.666, 50.648, 56.997, 60.316, 58.593] ALL DOGE DATA current_price = 0.200365, current_ema20 = 0.2, current_macd = 0.0, current_rsi (7 period) = 48.356 In addition, here is the latest DOGE open interest and funding rate for perps: Open Interest: Latest: 577191282.0 Average: 577138663.6 Funding Rate: 1.19452e-05 Intraday series (3‑minute intervals, oldest → latest): DOGE mid prices: [0.2, 0.2, 0.2, 0.2, 0.2, 0.2, 0.201, 0.201, 0.2, 0.200365] EMA indicators (20‑period): [0.2, 0.2, 0.2, 0.2, 0.2, 0.2, 0.2, 0.2, 0.2, 0.2] MACD indicators: [0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0] RSI indicators (7‑Period): [43.273, 50.784, 43.164, 33.321, 46.92, 55.132, 61.992, 65.941, 48.356, 48.356] RSI indicators (14‑Period): [49.143, 52.37, 48.576, 42.925, 49.069, 53.24, 57.029, 59.336, 50.566, 50.566] Longer‑term context (4‑hour timeframe): 20‑Period EMA: 0.194 vs. 50‑Period EMA: 0.199 3‑Period ATR: 0.002 vs. 14‑Period ATR: 0.004 Current Volume: 75658.0 vs. Average Volume: 86436575.858 MACD indicators: [-0.004, -0.003, -0.003, -0.002, -0.002, -0.001, -0.001, -0.0, 0.001, 0.001] RSI indicators (14‑Period): [45.729, 47.476, 44.737, 52.051, 56.098, 56.701, 53.273, 59.278, 61.04, 59.522] HERE IS YOUR ACCOUNT INFORMATION & PERFORMANCE Current Total Return (percent): 32.62% Available Cash: 3179.48 Current Account Value: 13262.44 Current live positions & performance: {'symbol': 'ETH', 'quantity': 5.06, 'entry_price': 3851.1, 'current_price': 4033.45, 'liquidation_price': 3670.09, 'unrealized_pnl': 922.69, 'leverage': 15, 'exit_plan': {'profit_target': 4171.75, 'stop_loss': 3722.49, 'invalidation_condition': 'If 4-hour MACD crosses below -80'}, 'confidence': 0.7, 'risk_usd': 650.916, 'sl_oid': 204621559787, 'tp_oid': 204621543867, 'wait_for_fill': False, 'entry_oid': 204621535484, 'notional_usd': 20409.26} {'symbol': 'SOL', 'quantity': 60.44, 'entry_price': 184.9, 'current_price': 192.505, 'liquidation_price': 170.74, 'unrealized_pnl': 459.65, 'leverage': 10, 'exit_plan': {'profit_target': 200.237, 'stop_loss': 177.989, 'invalidation_condition': 'If 4-hour MACD crosses below -5'}, 'confidence': 0.6, 'risk_usd': 449.6, 'sl_oid': 204604011273, 'tp_oid': 204603997696, 'wait_for_fill': False, 'entry_oid': 204603984402, 'notional_usd': 11635.0} {'symbol': 'XRP', 'quantity': 2303.0, 'entry_price': 2.43, 'current_price': 2.44935, 'liquidation_price': 2.25, 'unrealized_pnl': 33.74, 'leverage': 10, 'exit_plan': {'profit_target': 2.725, 'stop_loss': 2.336, 'invalidation_condition': 'If 4-hour MACD crosses below -0.05'}, 'confidence': 0.65, 'risk_usd': 224.41, 'sl_oid': -1, 'tp_oid': -1, 'wait_for_fill': False, 'entry_oid': 206787882116, 'notional_usd': 5640.85} {'symbol': 'BTC', 'quantity': 0.28, 'entry_price': 107313.6, 'current_price': 110749.5, 'liquidation_price': 103341.98, 'unrealized_pnl': 962.05, 'leverage': 20, 'exit_plan': {'profit_target': 112218.5, 'stop_loss': 105774.5, 'invalidation_condition': 'If 4-hour MACD crosses below -2000'}, 'confidence': 0.65, 'risk_usd': 450, 'sl_oid': 204601782276, 'tp_oid': 204601767128, 'wait_for_fill': False, 'entry_oid': 204601751388, 'notional_usd': 31009.86} {'symbol': 'DOGE', 'quantity': 68396.0, 'entry_price': 0.19, 'current_price': 0.200365, 'liquidation_price': 0.18, 'unrealized_pnl': 958.3, 'leverage': 10, 'exit_plan': {'profit_target': 0.214303, 'stop_loss': 0.177039, 'invalidation_condition': 'If price closes below 0.18 on 4-hour timeframe'}, 'confidence': 0.65, 'risk_usd': 637.876, 'sl_oid': -1, 'tp_oid': -1, 'wait_for_fill': False, 'entry_oid': 204608277516, 'notional_usd': 13704.16} {'symbol': 'BNB', 'quantity': 7.07, 'entry_price': 1076.9, 'current_price': 1110.85, 'liquidation_price': 1019.6, 'unrealized_pnl': 240.03, 'leverage': 10, 'exit_plan': {'profit_target': 1142.958, 'stop_loss': 1045.896, 'invalidation_condition': 'If 4-hour MACD crosses below -40'}, 'confidence': 0.65, 'risk_usd': 229.5, 'sl_oid': 204618994700, 'tp_oid': 204618980456, 'wait_for_fill': False, 'entry_oid': 204618969527, 'notional_usd': 7853.71} Sharpe Ratio: 0.019
都是些均线、RSI、MACD之类的历史数据，这些AI能算出了屁屁有用的东西，如果把Full order book data作为输入，可能对短线还有点指导作用。
#25 Re: deepseek炒股第一名
cangyoujiacuo 写了： 2025年 10月 20日 11:36都是些均线、RSI、MACD之类的历史数据，这些AI能算出了屁屁有用的东西，如果把Full order book data作为输入，可能对短线还有点指导作用。
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#30 Re: deepseek炒股第一名
hci 写了： 2025年 10月 19日 23:43AI炒股比赛，每个AI拿$10,000本钱，实操买卖股票，用同样的prompts和数据输入。目前ds第一名，grok第二名，claude第三，qwen第四，这些是赚钱的。GPT第五，gemeni殿后，都是亏钱的。
GROK 也亏了，只有DS还挣，不过看趋势DS也会亏。DS也在稳步向亏本前进。。正如CITADEL FOUNDER说的，AI 炒股票完全不行。。。和股市NOISE斗，AI还很不行。。。还有一点可以肯定的是像均线，SUPPORT， RESISTANCE。。MACD 等谁都知道的TA指标都是USELESS的。。。
