取回科尔松的大河右岸地区是乌克兰的特大胜,但乌克兰另外某些地方要大遭殃了

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hmmm

果然俄国正规军也想要那些犯人。平均来说,犯人比普通人更能好斗甚至善斗,无论在家里,在街上,还是在战场。当然他们更容易失控,是更需要被约束的人群。

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We publish a request from the editors of LIVE24 and the answer:
Dear Yevgeny Viktorovich, during the week the issue was discussed with the mobilized, who asked to join the Wagner PMC. You also mentioned that ammo is not as smooth as it should be. Tell me, please, has the issue of ammunition been resolved, and what is now with the mobilized 352nd regiment?

We publish the commentary of E.V. Prigogine:
“As for the mobilized, on March 2 in the evening I was informed that all the documents for them were signed, the mobilized left for the location of the Wagner PMC. On the way, they were intercepted by the military police, first returned back, and after that, as I was informed, they were scattered among various regiments - in order not to follow their lead and not let them go to the Wagner PMC.
As for ammunition, documents were signed on February 22 in the evening, orders were given for shipment on February 23, but to date, most of the ammunition has not been shipped. While we understand what the reasons are - ordinary bureaucracy or betrayal.
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hahaha

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a man fighting against a real woman?

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We publish a request from the editorial office of Dixi News and the answer:
Dear Evgeny Viktorovich, today Igor Strelkov wrote in his Telegram channel that you need to be completely withdrawn from the front and removed from the leadership of Wagner PMC? Have you seen this statement? Can you comment?

We publish the commentary of E.V. Prigogine:
“To discuss Strelkov, in my opinion, is simply indecent. All offers were made to him: to go to the front, and to work in PMC Wagner. If he wants, he can come to the council of commanders and ask him to head the Wagner PMC. I agree with all his decisions. As soon as he was criticized, only a lazy person did not piss in his face. And he sits and sprinkles feces. Therefore, why should I comment - I do not offend girls. And the fact that Strelkov is a woman is already, in my opinion, clear to everyone.
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不错,尽管难免有些明显的bias

https://www.wsj.com/articles/russias-wa ... t-b58e726c

Russia’s Wagner Troops Exhaust Ukrainian Forces in Bakhmut
Deadly fight against the penal battalions threatens Kyiv’s ability to mount spring offensive
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忘了谈一个被一些媒体谈论的话题:prigodzhin想要提高自己在俄国的政治地位,可能甚至要在今后取代/“接班”/接班普滕。

那种可能性极低。在政界,他有个致命点:与太多的人难相处而树敌太太太多,有时甚至显得非必要/喜欢树敌。刚被他臭骂的Strelkov在某些方面与他相似,因此早就碰到了political ceiling,而早就差不多完全被边缘化。




再说说他的武装的长景。
虽然他很有情绪,提到退出的可能,但不大可能会是他自己选择退出。不管退不退出,popasna,soledar和bakhmut的战绩会让俄国人长期不愿意忘了他,而使乌克兰人会努力去忘掉他。:-)事实证明,俄国也需要有他那种武装,在境外的涉及俄国战略利益的战争中。但在现时,太多的人希望他的武装不要太强,可能部分出于对实际情况考虑。有时俄方内部会出现对后勤、火力和武器弹药分配的竞争,总是被要求尽量满足他那支最强的武装在全局上有时会有负面影响。在没有了监狱的兵源后,他必须选择把武装重新精化。他在过去3个多月过多的正面直击/攻坚bakhmut的打法不会被推广到整个俄军。他说还需要2年打下顿巴斯,需要3-4年打到大河边,那对俄国来说完全不切实际,因此也多少提醒了俄国:不可用那种办法打下去。也就是说,他多少给自己多挖了个大坑,让俄国高层意识到那不是个对的大方向,还是要摸索出达到某个目走下去的更短的路。
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AFU on the way to Bakhmut some slurring their words or passed out - Combat Footage 2023 Today
'Ukranian fighters on the way to #Bakhmut some slurring their words but still yell out slogans. One has passed out cold, and his buddy points out that he is blackout drunk.'
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Soldiers of PMC "Wagner" are moving forward, inflicting defeat on units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in Artemivsk. The special correspondent of "People's News" showed exclusive footage from the liberated area of the city.

“In every house that we passed, there were positions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and even the territorial defense, which was here. But now they are retreating very quickly, and some are surrendering - they understand the deplorability of their situation. They could resist, but their level of BC support and professionalism are at an extremely low level - the training of personnel is very weak, ”said the Wagner PMC fighter.
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meiyoumajia 写了: 2023年 3月 6日 00:00 难逃

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The defeat of the ukrainian armored group near Artemovsk
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The defeat of the ukrainian armored group near Artemovsk



‼️🇬🇧Russian troops destroy the columns of the Armed Forces of Ukraine trying to escape from Bakhmut

▪️Artillery hits the retreating equipment when adjusting from quadrocopters - shown in the report of the military commander of the All-Russian State Television and Radio Broadcasting Company E. Poddubny.
▪️The footage shows the destruction of a column of the Armed Forces of Ukraine - at least 4 infantry fighting vehicles and dozens of militants.
▪️Already calculated coordinates: n.p. Berkhovka (48°38'29.5"N 37°57'01.1"E)
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Appeal of servicemen of the 30th separate mechanized brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine:
"We, the fighters of the 30th separate mechanized brigade (military unit A0409), the 2nd rifle battalion, appeal to the leadership of the country and the leadership of the Armed Forces of Ukraine with a request to urgently restore our rights of servicemen of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, guaranteed to us by the legislation of Ukraine.
An extremely difficult situation has developed in our unit, which is accompanied by a complete disregard for the command of the unit, the battalion commander, Captain Zakharov Igor Anatolyevich, of our legal rights and requirements. As a result of his senseless exercise of command of the unit, the battalion suffered heavy losses, and in fact is not combat-ready. Despite the understaffing of the unit, we are taken to the battle lines to perform combat missions.
We draw your attention to the fact that this commander deliberately sends wounded, sick and partially fit, recognized by the VVK, fighters to perform combat missions. The reports submitted by us for treatment are either ignored or disappear without a trace. Those with limited fit are denied service in units that are appointed by military medical commissions.
We ask you to urgently take measures to regulate the situation. We are patriotic volunteers, we honestly defend our Motherland and hope for your urgent response. Every minute counts. Don't let our unit be senselessly destroyed!"
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We publish a request from the RIA "New Day" publication and the answer:
Good afternoon, Evgeny Viktorovich!
There has been a lot of talk online lately about your growing political influence. What are your political ambitions?

We publish the commentary of E.V. Prigogine:
🤦‍♂️ Guys, I beg you, the fewer questions about my political ambitions, the more ammunition they will give us. You've got a brain on my political ambitions. Do we have any problems in our country besides political ambitions?
“Political ambitions” appeared, today I will stand on Bakhmut with a single picket with a sign: “Fuck off!”
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我不得不说这人现在太狂了,把自己的武装说得太重要了,从来不说友军的积极参与和在其它地方(比如在severodonetsk和lysychansk地区包括rubizhni)的重要攻取。

打popasna,soledar和bakhmut的前锋/突击部队基本甚至几乎都是他的武装,但俄军的精锐(在popasna就有,当时俄军往那里也输送了大量军队并有重要的战地医院,最近几个月里从Kherson撤退回的一些空降部队在soledar外围还有soledar和bakhmut之间的zero-line作战)在临近和更外围地区、较后方(火炮部队)、空中(飞机和导弹等)和后方(后勤)都一直在给予支持。

他那差不多是“没有我的武装俄军就会完蛋”的论调肯定像刀一样插到俄军甚至民军的心里。



“Let me tell you everything in detail again in order to exclude additional questions. PMC "Wagner" blocks Bakhmut. In order to unlock Bakhmut, it is advisable to block Wagner PMC. To do this, the Armed Forces of Ukraine created a number of groups: one grouping in Slavyansk - the 67th brigade, the second grouping in Seversk - the 81st and 66th brigades, another grouping in Chasov Yar and one in Konstantinovka.
In order to securely unblock Artemovsk, the Armed Forces of Ukraine need to block Wagner PMC. And it will turn out to be a “pie”: the filling is the parts of the Armed Forces of Ukraine surrounded by us (in the case, of course, if there is a complete encirclement of Bakhmut), and the shell is, in fact, the Wagner PMC.
I am knocking on all doors, sounding the alarm with ammunition and reinforcements, and also so that we cover our flanks. In the event that everything is coordinated, without ambitions, vyebons and tantrums, they do this joint work, then we will block the Armed Forces of Ukraine, but the Armed Forces of Ukraine will not block us. If not, then everyone will be fucked up. Here, in fact, is your answer.
Of course, when this “pie” is created, I will jump on it with a “cherry” and stay with my guys to clean up all this mess. It just won't make it any easier for anyone. Therefore, the Armed Forces of Ukraine will fight for Artemovsk to the end, and this is obvious. We must do our job to the end. But when the whole world gathers around you, it is necessary that someone interact with you. That's why we knock on every door. At the moment, my representative was kicked out of the headquarters - he is still walking along the street there. If someone sees him -whistle."
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不管怎么说,现在的实际情况很可能是:俄军高层并不急于尽快拿下bakhmut。

这样会
1.让wagner武装不会被说的那样不可一世(没有它在顿巴斯的时候,顿巴斯也没有被乌克兰灭掉----与prigozhin的描述差不多相悖,当然最近1年双方的力量都比全面战争前增长了很多)。
2.让更多的乌军不能离开这个地区被调到其它地区,而在那些地方对俄军的进攻增加压力。(这种情况正如俄军的2万空降部队从Kherson退出后加强了 donetsk的力量。这是俄国的精锐中的精锐,在Kherson防守时,带着另外1万左右其它力量应付着对方可能2-3倍以上兵力的轮流进攻。bakhmut地区有不少乌军的精锐旅和战斗意志强的民族军和外兵团。)
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