今年的圣诞装饰品在哪里?绍兴厂家尚未收到任何美国订单

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pinfish 写了: 2025年 4月 9日 22:46 已经跪了90天了,大概率还要延
胆大的可以赌一赌
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pinfish 写了: 2025年 4月 9日 22:22 贴牌的更是白赚的
这个事情发生过很多次了
现在最大的问题是怕蠢谱抽风
商业最怕的是不确定性
贴牌的是哪些国家的?
川普向来想啥做啥吧……关税完全可以总统一口价啊,怎么没有一点约束?林肯那时的关税也是林肯一个人做主吗?看到群里说这是全球职位最高的操盘手 ,一个人搅动全球股市……
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关税/国际贸易权限归联邦,特别是联邦政府,除非老头又改主意了。
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这些东西少生产点儿挺好。
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#26 Re: 今年的圣诞装饰品在哪里?绍兴厂家尚未收到任何美国订单

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pinfish 写了: 2025年 4月 9日 22:45 纺织业现在也在湖州
不算夕阳,看怎么玩了
俺同学接家里的厂子已经实现小目标了
看你们湖州穷得,比绍兴好不了多了,你看看宁波,金碧辉煌,简直是个小号的上海
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#27 Re: 今年的圣诞装饰品在哪里?绍兴厂家尚未收到任何美国订单

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先运到企鹅岛再发货到美国。
wh 写了: 2025年 4月 9日 17:59 大国贸易战下的小商贩们真惨,关税剧烈动荡,好好的生意突然面临全盘崩溃,到处找出路。工人也大量失业。

https://www.reuters.com/world/has-trump ... 025-04-09/
Has Trump cancelled Christmas? China's decorations makers report no US orders
By Andrew Silver and Casey Hall
April 9, 2025 Updated 6 hours ago

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Christmas decorations are displayed at Zhanbang Christmas Company at Yiwu International Trade Market in Yiwu, Zhejiang province, China, April 9, 2025. REUTERS/Go Nakamura

Summary
US tariffs to lead to price surge for Christmas decorations
Chinese producers still waiting for US Christmas orders
Many factories worried about losing crucial US business


SHAOXING, China, April 9 (Reuters) - Chinese producers of plastic Christmas trees and other festive decorations say orders from U.S. clients, which are crucial for their business, should have started to come in by now. But because of surging import tariffs, they haven't.

U.S. President Donald Trump has raised tariffs on Chinese imports by 104% so far this year in an escalating trade war that threatens great pain for the world's largest exporter of manufactured goods.

U.S. retailers are almost completely reliant on China for Christmas decorations, where they source 87% of such goods - worth roughly $4 billion. Chinese factories are also heavily dependent on the U.S. market, where they sell half of what they make.
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Graphic: The chart shows share of China in U.S. import of Christmas articles and share of U.S. in China export of the same.

If Americans want new Christmas decorations this year, they will have to pay a lot more for them - if they can find them on the shelves at all.

"So far this year, none of my American customers have placed any orders," said Qun Ying, who runs an artificial Christmas tree factory in the eastern city of Jinhua.

"Of course it's about the tariffs. By mid-April all the orders are normally finalised, but right now ... it's hard to know if any orders are coming. Maybe American customers won't buy anything this year."

In Shaoxing, some 160 kilometres (100 miles) away from Jinhua, factory owner Liu Song was confident his business can cope by trying to sell more to Russia, Europe and Southeast Asia, which together take 75% of his products already.

"We are worried that U.S. orders will come down," he said, while adding: "We will definitely win this trade war."

Jessica Guo, who also manages a Christmas tree factory in Jinhua, said she was just notified by an important U.S. customer that it is pausing a 3 million yuan ($408,191) order for which she had already spent 400,000 yuan on materials.

She expects that order will soon be cancelled and worries about her business.

"My peers and I rely on U.S. orders to survive," Guo said. "This will inevitably affect a lot of people. No one can escape."

Economists say the trade war will shave 1-2 percentage points off Chinese economic growth this year, exacerbate industrial overcapacity issues, threaten jobs, and further fuel deflationary forces.

As Chinese exporters sell less to the U.S., which last year bought goods worth more than $400 billion, they will have to compete ever more intensely on prices in other markets.

This will hit their already-thin profit margins and force them to cut costs at home, economists say.

Guo's 10,800-square metre (116,250-square foot) factory employs 140 people regularly, but that number can hit 200 in peak production season over the summer. This year she does not expect to need extra workers.

"Losing the U.S. market will definitely impact many people’s jobs," said Guo.

Domestic demand for Christmas decorations in China is insignificant, she added.

SILENT NIGHTS

Sourcing from countries other than China will be difficult. The second-biggest exporter of Christmas decorations to the U.S. is Cambodia, which makes 5.5% of the goods, and last week Trump imposed a 49% tariff on Cambodian imports.

Shifting production to the U.S., one of Trump's goals in imposing tariffs on China and almost every other country in the world, is not feasible, says Jami Warner, executive director of the American Christmas Tree Association.

"They certainly can't be made in the United States. There's no manufacturing, the technology isn't here, the labour market isn't here," said Warner.
Warner, who expects significant, but hard to estimate, price increases, says 80% of all Christmas trees displayed in the U.S. are artificial. The pre-lit trees, which is most of them, are only made in China.

She decries her industry becoming collateral damage in a geopolitical fight.

"What our members make and sell are not strategic products," said Warner.

"We're not threatening. We're a happy, joyful business. We'd like to stay in that joyful business."

($1 = 7.3499 Chinese yuan renminbi)

(This story has been refiled to change additional reporting credit to Xiaoyu Yin from Xihao Jiang)
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#28 Re: 今年的圣诞装饰品在哪里?绍兴厂家尚未收到任何美国订单

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RJZN 写了: 2025年 4月 9日 23:31 这些东西少生产点儿挺好。
环保? :D 不过小孩喜欢,热闹……
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#29 Re: 今年的圣诞装饰品在哪里?绍兴厂家尚未收到任何美国订单

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Havana 写了: 2025年 4月 9日 23:48 先运到企鹅岛再发货到美国。
下面这个企鹅岛?:
菲利普岛又称企鹅岛,是澳大利亚维多利亚州南部西港海湾口的一座岛屿,岛屿的东侧建有桥梁与大陆的圣雷莫(San Remo)相连,形状酷似海豚。
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可有可无的东西,零科技含量又污染环境。正好淘汰了陋习。
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DavidHuang 写了: 2025年 4月 9日 21:10 没办法,不确定性太大了,谁做生意都不想亏啊。
现在关税那么动荡,可能亏到倾家荡产吧……
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#32 Re: 今年的圣诞装饰品在哪里?绍兴厂家尚未收到任何美国订单

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弃婴千枝 写了: 2025年 4月 9日 21:50 绍兴这地方,领导无能,智商实在低下

杭州靠电商,直播,AI发达了,宁波靠汽车,光学也发达了,就夹在中间的绍兴完蛋了,沉迷于纺织业,现在纺织业属于夕阳产业,还选了个大学都没读过的当头,彻底完蛋了

https://web.shobserver.com/wx/detail.do?id=771694

当年在乡下走访,路过绍兴-宁波界,一条小河隔开2地,妈的,跨过界桥,从宁波界走到绍兴界,明显感觉一阵破败袭来。。。。

据说是政府没钱,不能给更多的补贴,日积月累,就破败了。就像人一样,政府一步走错,赚不到钱,以后根本不能翻身,步步都错
男的名字叫惠芳……
余姚是余秋雨的家乡……
杭州是省会,宁波是沿海港口,都比绍兴有先天优势。我去过绍兴的朋友都说绍兴不错,小城市,干净文雅悠闲。
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#33 Re: 今年的圣诞装饰品在哪里?绍兴厂家尚未收到任何美国订单

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pinfish 写了: 2025年 4月 9日 22:45 纺织业现在也在湖州
不算夕阳,看怎么玩了
俺同学接家里的厂子已经实现小目标了
什么样的小目标?我妈以前在嵊县纺织厂,后来好像和全国很多纺织厂一样要么倒闭,要么私人承包。都说纺织生意不好做。
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#34 Re: 今年的圣诞装饰品在哪里?绍兴厂家尚未收到任何美国订单

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弃婴千枝 写了: 2025年 4月 9日 23:38 看你们湖州穷得,比绍兴好不了多了,你看看宁波,金碧辉煌,简直是个小号的上海
他不是湖州的,湖州的应该是他的大学同学。湖州我只记得是鱼米之乡。
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#35 Re: 今年的圣诞装饰品在哪里?绍兴厂家尚未收到任何美国订单

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wh 写了: 2025年 4月 10日 00:06 环保? :D 不过小孩喜欢,热闹……
这些东西主打一个便宜。为啥这么便宜,还不就是cheap/slavery labor。
劳动法是啥?没人给个fuck。
组织起来和资方谈工资?先办个寻衅滋事抓起来。
割韭菜赚钱又快又好,上了瘾戒不了了
贵版版友夸国内又便宜又好时,记得给点小费
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#36 Re: 今年的圣诞装饰品在哪里?绍兴厂家尚未收到任何美国订单

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地下室还有好几大包,熬个四五年木问题。
wh 写了: 2025年 4月 9日 17:59 大国贸易战下的小商贩们真惨,关税剧烈动荡,好好的生意突然面临全盘崩溃,到处找出路。工人也大量失业。

https://www.reuters.com/world/has-trump ... 025-04-09/
Has Trump cancelled Christmas? China's decorations makers report no US orders
By Andrew Silver and Casey Hall
April 9, 2025 Updated 6 hours ago

图片
Christmas decorations are displayed at Zhanbang Christmas Company at Yiwu International Trade Market in Yiwu, Zhejiang province, China, April 9, 2025. REUTERS/Go Nakamura

Summary
US tariffs to lead to price surge for Christmas decorations
Chinese producers still waiting for US Christmas orders
Many factories worried about losing crucial US business


SHAOXING, China, April 9 (Reuters) - Chinese producers of plastic Christmas trees and other festive decorations say orders from U.S. clients, which are crucial for their business, should have started to come in by now. But because of surging import tariffs, they haven't.

U.S. President Donald Trump has raised tariffs on Chinese imports by 104% so far this year in an escalating trade war that threatens great pain for the world's largest exporter of manufactured goods.

U.S. retailers are almost completely reliant on China for Christmas decorations, where they source 87% of such goods - worth roughly $4 billion. Chinese factories are also heavily dependent on the U.S. market, where they sell half of what they make.
图片
Graphic: The chart shows share of China in U.S. import of Christmas articles and share of U.S. in China export of the same.

If Americans want new Christmas decorations this year, they will have to pay a lot more for them - if they can find them on the shelves at all.

"So far this year, none of my American customers have placed any orders," said Qun Ying, who runs an artificial Christmas tree factory in the eastern city of Jinhua.

"Of course it's about the tariffs. By mid-April all the orders are normally finalised, but right now ... it's hard to know if any orders are coming. Maybe American customers won't buy anything this year."

In Shaoxing, some 160 kilometres (100 miles) away from Jinhua, factory owner Liu Song was confident his business can cope by trying to sell more to Russia, Europe and Southeast Asia, which together take 75% of his products already.

"We are worried that U.S. orders will come down," he said, while adding: "We will definitely win this trade war."

Jessica Guo, who also manages a Christmas tree factory in Jinhua, said she was just notified by an important U.S. customer that it is pausing a 3 million yuan ($408,191) order for which she had already spent 400,000 yuan on materials.

She expects that order will soon be cancelled and worries about her business.

"My peers and I rely on U.S. orders to survive," Guo said. "This will inevitably affect a lot of people. No one can escape."

Economists say the trade war will shave 1-2 percentage points off Chinese economic growth this year, exacerbate industrial overcapacity issues, threaten jobs, and further fuel deflationary forces.

As Chinese exporters sell less to the U.S., which last year bought goods worth more than $400 billion, they will have to compete ever more intensely on prices in other markets.

This will hit their already-thin profit margins and force them to cut costs at home, economists say.

Guo's 10,800-square metre (116,250-square foot) factory employs 140 people regularly, but that number can hit 200 in peak production season over the summer. This year she does not expect to need extra workers.

"Losing the U.S. market will definitely impact many people’s jobs," said Guo.

Domestic demand for Christmas decorations in China is insignificant, she added.

SILENT NIGHTS

Sourcing from countries other than China will be difficult. The second-biggest exporter of Christmas decorations to the U.S. is Cambodia, which makes 5.5% of the goods, and last week Trump imposed a 49% tariff on Cambodian imports.

Shifting production to the U.S., one of Trump's goals in imposing tariffs on China and almost every other country in the world, is not feasible, says Jami Warner, executive director of the American Christmas Tree Association.

"They certainly can't be made in the United States. There's no manufacturing, the technology isn't here, the labour market isn't here," said Warner.

Warner, who expects significant, but hard to estimate, price increases, says 80% of all Christmas trees displayed in the U.S. are artificial. The pre-lit trees, which is most of them, are only made in China.

She decries her industry becoming collateral damage in a geopolitical fight.

"What our members make and sell are not strategic products," said Warner.

"We're not threatening. We're a happy, joyful business. We'd like to stay in that joyful business."

($1 = 7.3499 Chinese yuan renminbi)

(This story has been refiled to change additional reporting credit to Xiaoyu Yin from Xihao Jiang)
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#38 Re: 今年的圣诞装饰品在哪里?绍兴厂家尚未收到任何美国订单

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wh 写了: 2025年 4月 10日 06:56 什么样的小目标?我妈以前在嵊县纺织厂,后来好像和全国很多纺织厂一样要么倒闭,要么私人承包。都说纺织生意不好做。
小目标是王健林若干年前一个访谈节目中说的,不妨先定一个小目标,譬如一个亿。
你妈在嵊县工作过?我班主任嵊县的,姓潘,她姥爷姓王。我们隔壁班也有个嵊县的,章guihong, 爱刻石刻印章。马晓春也是嵊县的。
全国无论何地,纺织厂要么私人承包要么倒闭开发房地产。发展起来的都是绍兴附近私人企业。
郁孤台下清江水,中间多少行人泪。刘郎已恨蓬山远,更隔蓬山一万重。
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#39 Re: 今年的圣诞装饰品在哪里?绍兴厂家尚未收到任何美国订单

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知道很多人的居住环境以后 我终于明白为啥会有这些想法了
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#40 Re: 今年的圣诞装饰品在哪里?绍兴厂家尚未收到任何美国订单

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wh 写了: 2025年 4月 9日 22:50 贴牌的是哪些国家的?
川普向来想啥做啥吧……关税完全可以总统一口价啊,怎么没有一点约束?林肯那时的关税也是林肯一个人做主吗?看到群里说这是全球职位最高的操盘手 ,一个人搅动全球股市……
主要是东南亚,越南最突出。
直接对美出口,从10年前的占比20%到现在的10%。
郁孤台下清江水,中间多少行人泪。刘郎已恨蓬山远,更隔蓬山一万重。
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#41 Re: 今年的圣诞装饰品在哪里?绍兴厂家尚未收到任何美国订单

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说的好像只有美国人才过圣诞节似的,主要是圣诞节刚过完,而且这种seasonal的东西,有钱的时候换换,没钱的时候就不会再买
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