华人在美国混得不如印度人好 是因为缺乏这个观念
什么观念？就是种姓观念。
先介绍一下什么是种姓制度。
种姓制度
印度的封建社会产物
种姓制度是曾在印度、孟加拉国、斯里兰卡等国[1]普遍存在的一种以血统论为基础的社会体系，其中以印度最为严重。又称贱籍制度、印度卡斯特体系（印地语：हिन्दू वर्ण व्यवस्था，英语：Caste system in India）。
种姓制度以统治阶层为中心，划分出许多以职业为基础的内婚制群体，即种姓。各种姓依所居地区不同而划分成许多次种姓，这些次种姓内部再依所居聚落不同分成许多聚落种姓，这些聚落种姓最后再分成行不同行外婚制的氏族，如此层层相扣，整合成一套散布于整个印度次大陆的社会体系。因此，种姓制度涵盖印度社会绝大多数的群体，并与印度的社会体制、宇宙观、宗教与人际关系息息相关，可说是传统印度最重要的社会制度与规范。
种姓制度最初是随雅利安人入侵印度而创立的社会制度。原本的种姓制度并非要划分阶级及人的高低贵贱，而是要确保本身雅利安人的执政权和保持各种工作都有一定的人数。然而随着马穆鲁克、蒙兀尔等外来伊斯兰教征服者统治印度，种姓制度为了政权需要而经历过许多调整，并在英属印度时期为符合殖民者需要而被固定、僵化，成为阶级森严的阶序体系。
由于该体系中的不平等与近代西方兴起的民主制度与人权思想大相径庭，因此常被批评为反现代化的落后制度，甚至被视为妨碍印度社会进步的毒瘤。1947年印度脱离殖民体系独立后，种姓制度的法律地位正式被废除，各种种姓分类与歧视被视为非法，然而在实际社会运作与生活上，其仍扮演相当重要的角色。
种姓制度2千多年前欧洲雅利安人入侵者建立的，为的就是永保自己在印度的统治地位。这已经成为印度的传统毒瘤。而印度人因为从小就在那种落后的种姓制度里面生活，知道如何对待种姓比自己高和自己低的人，所以来到美国以后，也能应付自如。
因为美国本质上也是一个隐形的种姓社会。
最高层婆罗门就是盎格鲁撒克逊新教徒里的英国皇室血脉，其次的刹帝利是美犹，再其次的吠舍大约是红脖子、烙印、教化后的天使，再其次的首陀罗是华人、劳模、印第安原住民和中美洲移民。如果不理解白皮这种心态，可以参照基督教里面的“天选子民”这个概念。白皮相信雅利安人（Aryan race）是“神所选定”而优越的，支配其他低等民族（印度人、中国人、黑人、劳模、日本人）是他们的使命。
https://zh.m.wikipedia.org/zh-hans/选民_(神学)
观察一下美国普通人的生活，基本上不同美国种姓之间的通婚很少。超过两个种姓的婚姻几乎没有。奥巴马那样的跨阶层是极少数，是因为奥巴马的妈妈极度叛逆。
所以美国各个种姓之间基本是相安无事、没有交集也不可逾越的。
但是华人没有种姓制度这个概念，华人的文化是“王侯将相、宁有种乎？” 种姓种姓，说的就是王侯将相是有种的。而华人的文化则从根本上否定了这种种姓制度的合法性，而且是2000年前就否定了。
所以在华人眼里，努力学习、努力工作，然后就要冲破阶层，娶白女、娶犹太女甚至娶英国王室都是合情合理、水到渠成的。因为王侯将相本来就是“皇帝轮流做，今年到我家”的事。在中国的传统社会里面，上下阶层的对流畅通非常重要。汉朝以后的300年，为什么总是战乱频仍，叛乱频发，国家难以统一？就是因为没有建立科举制度。上下阶层几乎完全隔绝。由东汉建立者刘秀开始，他于建国后大封功臣造就了第一批贵族。在东汉后期有大量农民破产，土地兼并的严重现象造成了第一批大地主的出现。直到九品中正制的出现，里头的统治阶级皆为等级较高贵族与地主，造成门阀制度的确认。下层平民中的优秀人物，完全没有机会上升到中层甚至高层。于是这些优秀人物频频造反，谋求跨越阶层，而平庸的上层人物又无力对抗，所以很轻松的就被推翻了。而后这些优秀人物的后代又变得平庸，再次被下一代的优秀人物推翻。而587年以后，到了隋唐时期，当政者为了巩固自己的权势而决定对门阀世家造成沉重的打击，提拔寒门子弟而采用科举制度，门阀制度正式宣告没落。隋朝建立科举制度，唐朝对其进行完善以后，中国的封建制度就稳定多了。唐、宋、明、清这几个实行了科举制度的朝代，基本上都有250年~400年左右的国祚。因为“朝为田舍郎、暮登天子堂”不再是理想，而是成了活生生的现实。而且不光有文状元、还有武状元。优秀人物只需要把书念好、把武练精，那么出人头地就是个时间问题。这样一来优秀人物就没有造反的动力了，只一心想着闭关，读书、练功，然后去考试 了。
而没有实行科举制度的元朝只坚持了100年不到就玩儿完了。因为游牧民族搞了个中国版的种姓制度. 元朝统治阶级把全国各族人分成四等：第一等是蒙古人，地位最高；第二等是色目人，即姓氏复杂的“各色名目”之人，包括西夏人、回回人和畏兀儿（维吾尔）人等我国西北地区各族，以及居留在我国境内的中亚、东欧人；第三等是汉人，指原金朝统治区的汉人、契丹人和女真人，以及渤海人和早先被蒙古族征服的四川、云南的汉人等；第四等是南人，指原南宋统治区的汉人和其他各族人。结果自然是重演了隋唐时期废除门阀制度的历史, 很快就被推翻了. 元朝之所以国祚如此之短, 就是因为不懂得科举对于维护国家稳定的重要性。
而在美国统治阶层因为不懂得中国科举制度,不懂得中国人多么重视上下阶层流通, 因此在他们眼里，美国华人也好，中国也好，都是野心勃勃，时刻想要上位、篡位。美国华人总是想着冲破甚至瓦解美国的种姓制度，而中国则总想着冲破和瓦解西方建立的国际秩序(国际版种姓制度)。所以中国人总是让美国高度紧张。
《007》里面就对他们的这种中国人印象做过细致描写，典型的对象就是No博士。为什么是NO? 否定的是谁？其实就是否定美国种姓制度，否定英国皇室血脉的高贵，总想着逆天改命、人定胜天。
这是中美文化根本冲突之一。这个矛盾冲突就像的定时炸弹一样迟早爆发。迟早有一天，小黄人会试图夺取政权，然后建立一套现代化的、西方版的“科举制度”，在社会的方方面面都通过考试来选拔人才，决定社会阶层。这就是中华文化。
从这个角度看过去，你就会完全理解，为什么美国白人总是指责成功以后的小黄人“burning the bridge”，也就是忘恩负义。因为华人，也就是小黄人成功以后想的就是：要跨越阶层、光宗耀祖。而在美国白人看来：让你做我奴才是看得起你，怎么你还想要要做主人？这不是犯上作乱吗？你那身黄皮说明你不是“天选子民”, 你的种姓本身就不够格，你这个种族就不够格，凭什么做主人？
从这个角度看过去，你也能理解，为什么西方国家无法容忍中国继续发展壮大，无法容忍中国推行人民币国际化。道理是一样的，就是他们认定中国的行为是“乱了国际社会尊卑次序，要谋反叛乱”。什么研发前沿科技、搞人民币国际化、掌握国际大宗商品的定价权和结算权，在他们看来完全是“谋逆”。因为这都不是中国人“这种低种姓应该操心的事情”, 是“天选子民”应该操心的事情。在他们看来眯眯眼的小黄人只配永远做裤子、做鞋子、做袜子这些苦力。从这个角度看美国所有针对华人的行为，就能够理解为什么西方人在中国贫穷落后的时候鄙视中国人，在中国富裕强大的时候敌视和防备中国人？因为在他们心里，他们本来就跟中国人是不平等的，他们才是“天选子民”，中国人不是。。。。。。（不想写了，快吐了）
印度人来美国以后，就混的很好，因为印度人天生就有种姓的观念，知道什么是自己该做的，什么是自己不该做的。什么是自己该关心的，什么是自己不该关心的。这让美国白人很放心，觉得印度人不会“谋逆造反”，所以很多管理职位都给了印度人，让他们看着“不安分”的华人。
写到这里，并不是说我同意美国人的这种种姓制度，而只是建立了一个粗略的思维模型，让大家能够理解美国人一天到晚想的都是些啥乌七八糟的玩意儿。
今天美国人的这套思维模型仍然没有改变，只不过隐藏的很好而已。拿着这个思维模型，你就可以理解很多美国文化现象。譬如Andrew Young参加总统选举为什么得票那么少？因为他的种姓太低,红脖子不服华人的管. 为什么好莱坞里面所有种族所有性别都有正面形象，唯独华人男性几乎没有？因为华人是一个野心勃勃的种姓， 不值得提倡. 为什么美国电影里面的亚裔Alpha男，只要出现，都是才高八斗，愤愤不平，脑子里面整天酝酿着各种极其危险的主意，就跟《狮子王》里面的刀疤一样.电影想要表现的是: 低种姓总是想着逆袭上位，该打！注意，《狮子王》里面的刀疤一头黑发，身体瘦削，心机很多，野心勃勃，非常符合白皮眼中华人的形象。而土狼无非就是亚非拉那些美国眼中的所谓的专制国家和失败国家。狮子王就是一个含蓄的为西方白皮的种族种姓制度辩护和增添合理性的卡通片, 为的就是要在儿童心理种下种姓制度的种子.
白人的歧视是一种种姓制度 华人在美国混得不如印度人好 是因为缺乏这个观念
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#4 Re: 白人的歧视是一种种姓制度 华人在美国混得不如印度人好 是因为缺乏这个观念
为什么外国人到了中国就感到中国人很友好，住得久了就会被中国人同化？就是因为中国人没有种姓制度的传统，是不分什么种姓的。或者说中国人压根就没有这个概念。因此在中国人看来，大家都是平等的，不会因为对方的肤色、种族、民族就区分对待。
因为没有遭受到种族或者种姓歧视，所以外国人融入中国比较容易。也因为融入了中国文化，很快就被中国式的价值观同化了，记不得原先的种姓制度了了，因此也就不会想西方的白人那样行事了。
因为没有遭受到种族或者种姓歧视，所以外国人融入中国比较容易。也因为融入了中国文化，很快就被中国式的价值观同化了，记不得原先的种姓制度了了，因此也就不会想西方的白人那样行事了。
#5 Re: 白人的歧视是一种种姓制度 华人在美国混得不如印度人好 是因为缺乏这个观念
为什么中美的G2谈判会谈崩？因为美国其实就是想把种姓制度通过G2这个好听的名字固定下来，形成一个美国人是主子，中国人是奴才的种姓制度。无非是中国这个奴才的等级比其他国家高一点罢了。中国当然不接受。让我当奴才？我还想让你当奴才呢。所以中美谈崩了。
为什么美国要限制中国发展高科技，为什么美国禁止中国涉足人工智能和量子计算？就是因为美国在竭力维护自己作为菠萝们的地位，试图阻止中国问鼎这个地位。
为什么其他西方国家甚至印度都反对中国崛起？就是因为他们自觉自己在国际种姓制度里面的地位是比中国高的。中国崛起了，就会成为菠萝们，把他们变成中国的奴才。这个身份地位的颠覆太大，他们实在接受不了。
为什么美国要限制中国发展高科技，为什么美国禁止中国涉足人工智能和量子计算？就是因为美国在竭力维护自己作为菠萝们的地位，试图阻止中国问鼎这个地位。
为什么其他西方国家甚至印度都反对中国崛起？就是因为他们自觉自己在国际种姓制度里面的地位是比中国高的。中国崛起了，就会成为菠萝们，把他们变成中国的奴才。这个身份地位的颠覆太大，他们实在接受不了。
#7 Re: 白人的歧视是一种种姓制度 华人在美国混得不如印度人好 是因为缺乏这个观念
之前胖哥的视频说
西方期待中国人去奥运，应该但当马戏团小丑的角色，而由白人挥鞭驯兽，以显其威。
(不料鞭子被中国人顺手就拿过来了。)
这文用种姓制度比喻，更为细致。
其实是一种已知障。要明心见性，当去障除魔。
西方期待中国人去奥运，应该但当马戏团小丑的角色，而由白人挥鞭驯兽，以显其威。
(不料鞭子被中国人顺手就拿过来了。)
这文用种姓制度比喻，更为细致。
其实是一种已知障。要明心见性，当去障除魔。
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#8 Re: 白人的歧视是一种种姓制度 华人在美国混得不如印度人好 是因为缺乏这个观念
国际足联好像也是这个思路annorying0 写了： 2024年 9月 24日 20:15 之前胖哥的视频说
西方期待中国人去奥运，应该但当马戏团小丑的角色，而由白人挥鞭驯兽，以显其威。
(不料鞭子被中国人顺手就拿过来了。)
这文用种姓制度比喻，更为细致。
其实是一种已知障。要明心见性，当去障除魔。
理解了老将是代入狗的视角之后，你就理解了老将
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理解了它们是代入狗的视角之后，它们为什么会嘲笑不愿意当狗的人，以及为什么会害怕想要反抗的人，就都可以理解了：
“放着好好的狗不当”
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理解了它们是代入狗的视角之后，它们为什么会嘲笑不愿意当狗的人，以及为什么会害怕想要反抗的人，就都可以理解了：
“放着好好的狗不当”
#10 Re: 白人的歧视是一种种姓制度 华人在美国混得不如印度人好 是因为缺乏这个观念
本文写的很好，非常准确。
每国优先，也是一种国家种姓制度的体现。
每国的种族主义，其实就是种姓制度的一种潜规则而已，大家都明白。
每国优先，也是一种国家种姓制度的体现。
每国的种族主义，其实就是种姓制度的一种潜规则而已，大家都明白。
请诸位尊重国名种姓制，必须用美好字眼翻译西方国家名称，谢谢配合。
#12 Re: 白人的歧视是一种种姓制度 华人在美国混得不如印度人好 是因为缺乏这个观念
The reason why Chinese people in the U.S. don't fare as well as Indians is due to a lack of a certain mindset.
What mindset? The caste mentality.
First, let's introduce what the caste system is.
Caste System
The caste system is a product of feudal society in India and has historically existed in countries like India, Bangladesh, and Sri Lanka, with the most extreme form being found in India. It is also known as the "caste system" or the "Indian caste system" (Hindi: हिन्दू वर्ण व्यवस्था, English: Caste system in India).
The caste system revolves around the ruling class and divides society into groups based on profession, creating endogamous (within-group marriage) social categories, known as castes. Depending on the region, these castes are further subdivided into sub-castes, and within the sub-castes, there are even smaller local caste groups. These local castes are divided into clans that may or may not permit marriage outside the group. This layered system forms a social structure that spreads across the entire Indian subcontinent. Therefore, the caste system influences most of Indian society, being closely linked to India’s social structure, worldview, religion, and interpersonal relations. It can be said that the caste system is one of the most important traditional social institutions in India.
The caste system originated as a social structure created by the Aryan invaders in India. Initially, it was not meant to create a hierarchy of status or privilege but to ensure that Aryans maintained political power and that each job had a stable number of people performing it. However, after India was conquered by Islamic powers like the Mamluks and Mughals, the caste system was adjusted for the needs of the rulers, and it became rigid during British colonial rule. Over time, the caste system solidified into a hierarchical structure with strict social boundaries.
Because the caste system promotes inequality and is fundamentally incompatible with modern democratic ideals and human rights, it is often criticized as a backward system that hinders social progress in India. After India gained independence from colonial rule in 1947, the legal status of the caste system was abolished, and discrimination based on caste was declared illegal. Nevertheless, the caste system continues to play an important role in the actual workings of Indian society and in people’s daily lives.
The caste system was established over 2,000 years ago by Aryan invaders from Europe to ensure their eternal dominance over India. This system has become a toxic tradition in India. Indians, having grown up in a society deeply rooted in this backward system, know how to navigate the hierarchy, treating people of higher and lower castes accordingly. As a result, when they come to America, they are adept at handling social dynamics.
This is because, at its core, America is also a hidden caste society.
At the top of the American caste system are the Brahmins, represented by the Anglo-Saxon Protestant royalty, followed by the Kshatriyas, which could be considered American Jews. Next are the Vaishyas, represented by rednecks, Indians (who have assimilated), and so-called "civilized" immigrants. Lastly, the Shudras include Chinese, laborers, Native Americans, and Central American immigrants. If you don’t understand this mentality, you can compare it to the Christian concept of the "chosen people." White people believe that the Aryan race is "divinely chosen" and that it is their mission to dominate "lower" races (Indians, Chinese, Black people, laborers, Japanese).
If you observe the lives of ordinary Americans, intermarriage between different castes is very rare. Marriages that cross more than two caste levels are almost non-existent. Barack Obama’s marriage to someone outside his caste is an exception, largely because his mother was extremely rebellious.
Thus, the different castes in America mostly live peacefully without much interaction, and the boundaries are not to be crossed.
But the Chinese lack this concept of caste. Chinese culture believes, "Are kings and generals born to their status?" The term "caste" implies that kings and generals are born into their roles, but Chinese culture fundamentally rejects the legitimacy of such a system, and has done so for 2,000 years.
Therefore, in the eyes of Chinese people, if you study and work hard, it’s only natural to break through the social hierarchy. Marrying a white woman, a Jewish woman, or even a British royal is considered reasonable and just a natural progression. After all, kings and generals are part of a cyclical system—"today’s king may be from my family." In traditional Chinese society, social mobility between different levels of society was crucial. The three hundred years following the Han dynasty were characterized by continuous wars and rebellions, and the country was difficult to unify, precisely because there was no imperial examination system. Social classes were almost entirely separated. From the time of Emperor Liu Xiu, who founded the Eastern Han dynasty, there was a massive enfeoffment of nobles, creating the first generation of aristocrats. In the late Eastern Han dynasty, a large number of farmers went bankrupt, and severe land consolidation led to the emergence of the first batch of large landlords. With the advent of the Nine-rank system, the ruling class was largely composed of aristocrats and landlords, confirming the establishment of a hierarchical system. Talented individuals from lower classes had no chance of rising to the middle or upper levels of society, leading them to frequently rebel to try to break through the social strata, and since the ruling elites were mediocre, they were easily overthrown. The successors of these talented rebels would then become mediocre, and the cycle would repeat.
After 587 AD, the Sui and Tang dynasties, realizing the importance of stabilizing power, dealt heavy blows to the aristocratic clans and promoted talented individuals from lower classes through the imperial examination system. The decline of the aristocracy marked the beginning of a more stable social order. Dynasties that implemented the imperial examination system, such as the Tang, Song, Ming, and Qing, generally enjoyed about 250 to 400 years of rule. This is because "today a farmer, tomorrow a courtier" was no longer just an ideal but a living reality. Talented individuals had a clear path to success. Not only was there a "scholar champion," but also a "martial champion," meaning that as long as one studied diligently or trained in martial arts, success was simply a matter of time. As a result, talented individuals had no reason to rebel, focusing instead on studying and training to prepare for the exams.
By contrast, the Yuan dynasty, which did not implement the imperial examination system, lasted less than 100 years before it collapsed. The Mongol rulers had imposed their own version of a caste system in China. They divided the population into four classes: Mongols at the top, followed by Semu (diverse ethnic groups), Han Chinese, and at the bottom, Southern Chinese. The result, unsurprisingly, was a repeat of history, as the Yuan dynasty was quickly overthrown.
In the eyes of the American ruling class, who do not understand the Chinese imperial examination system or the importance of social mobility in Chinese culture, Chinese Americans and China itself are seen as ambitious and constantly attempting to rise to power and usurp control. Chinese Americans are always thinking about breaking through or even dismantling America’s caste system, just as China aims to break through and dismantle the international order established by the West (an international version of the caste system). This is why China makes America so nervous.
In the James Bond movie "Dr. No," the Chinese antagonist No symbolizes this very idea. The name "No" signifies denial—denying what? The legitimacy of America’s caste system and the supposed nobility of British royal blood, constantly seeking to overturn the established order.
This is one of the fundamental cultural conflicts between China and the U.S. This conflict is a ticking time bomb that will eventually explode. One day, the Chinese will try to seize power and establish a modernized, Western version of the imperial examination system to determine social class through exams. This is Chinese culture.
From this perspective, you can fully understand why white Americans often accuse successful Chinese of "burning the bridge"—forgetting the kindness that helped them succeed. To white Americans, allowing Chinese people to serve them is a sign of their favor. Why, then, would these Chinese want to become masters themselves? Isn’t that rebellious? After all, their yellow skin shows that they aren’t "the chosen people." Their caste, their race, is unworthy of being rulers.
From this perspective, it also becomes clear why Western countries cannot tolerate China’s continued development or the internationalization of the yuan. It’s the same reasoning: they see China’s actions as "disrupting the international order," akin to rebellion. In their view, developing cutting-edge technology, internationalizing the yuan, or controlling the pricing and settlement of major commodities are not tasks for a low-caste nation like China—they are matters for the "chosen people" to handle. In their eyes, Chinese people are only fit for making pants, shoes, and socks—manual labor.
This also explains why Westerners despised the Chinese when they were poor and backward but now view China with hostility and vigilance as it grows rich and powerful. In their minds, they never considered the Chinese as equals because they, the white Westerners, are the "chosen people," and the Chinese are not.
When Indians come to America, they thrive because they are naturally attuned to the caste system. They know what they should and shouldn’t do, what they should and shouldn’t care about, which reassures white Americans. As a result, many managerial positions are given to Indians, who are entrusted to keep an eye on the "restless" Chinese.
I’m not endorsing the American caste system here, just outlining a rough mental model so that people can understand what’s going on in the minds of Americans.
Even today, this mindset still hasn’t changed; it’s just better concealed. With this framework, you can understand many phenomena in American culture. For example, why did Andrew Yang receive so few votes in the presidential election? Because his caste is too low, and rednecks won’t accept being governed by a Chinese. Why are Hollywood depictions of other races and genders mostly positive, while Chinese men are rarely portrayed in a good light? Because Chinese are seen as an ambitious caste, unworthy of admiration. Why do Asian male characters in American movies, whenever they appear, always seem to be talented yet brooding and plotting dangerous schemes, like Scar in "The Lion King"? The message is that lower castes always seek to rise to power, and they must be suppressed. Scar, with his black hair, thin body, and scheming nature, closely matches the Western image of the Chinese. The hyenas in "The Lion King" are essentially a metaphor for the so-called authoritarian and failed states of Africa, Asia, and Latin America. The movie subtly defends and legitimizes the white caste system while planting the seeds of caste mentality in children's minds.
What mindset? The caste mentality.
First, let's introduce what the caste system is.
Caste System
The caste system is a product of feudal society in India and has historically existed in countries like India, Bangladesh, and Sri Lanka, with the most extreme form being found in India. It is also known as the "caste system" or the "Indian caste system" (Hindi: हिन्दू वर्ण व्यवस्था, English: Caste system in India).
The caste system revolves around the ruling class and divides society into groups based on profession, creating endogamous (within-group marriage) social categories, known as castes. Depending on the region, these castes are further subdivided into sub-castes, and within the sub-castes, there are even smaller local caste groups. These local castes are divided into clans that may or may not permit marriage outside the group. This layered system forms a social structure that spreads across the entire Indian subcontinent. Therefore, the caste system influences most of Indian society, being closely linked to India’s social structure, worldview, religion, and interpersonal relations. It can be said that the caste system is one of the most important traditional social institutions in India.
The caste system originated as a social structure created by the Aryan invaders in India. Initially, it was not meant to create a hierarchy of status or privilege but to ensure that Aryans maintained political power and that each job had a stable number of people performing it. However, after India was conquered by Islamic powers like the Mamluks and Mughals, the caste system was adjusted for the needs of the rulers, and it became rigid during British colonial rule. Over time, the caste system solidified into a hierarchical structure with strict social boundaries.
Because the caste system promotes inequality and is fundamentally incompatible with modern democratic ideals and human rights, it is often criticized as a backward system that hinders social progress in India. After India gained independence from colonial rule in 1947, the legal status of the caste system was abolished, and discrimination based on caste was declared illegal. Nevertheless, the caste system continues to play an important role in the actual workings of Indian society and in people’s daily lives.
The caste system was established over 2,000 years ago by Aryan invaders from Europe to ensure their eternal dominance over India. This system has become a toxic tradition in India. Indians, having grown up in a society deeply rooted in this backward system, know how to navigate the hierarchy, treating people of higher and lower castes accordingly. As a result, when they come to America, they are adept at handling social dynamics.
This is because, at its core, America is also a hidden caste society.
At the top of the American caste system are the Brahmins, represented by the Anglo-Saxon Protestant royalty, followed by the Kshatriyas, which could be considered American Jews. Next are the Vaishyas, represented by rednecks, Indians (who have assimilated), and so-called "civilized" immigrants. Lastly, the Shudras include Chinese, laborers, Native Americans, and Central American immigrants. If you don’t understand this mentality, you can compare it to the Christian concept of the "chosen people." White people believe that the Aryan race is "divinely chosen" and that it is their mission to dominate "lower" races (Indians, Chinese, Black people, laborers, Japanese).
If you observe the lives of ordinary Americans, intermarriage between different castes is very rare. Marriages that cross more than two caste levels are almost non-existent. Barack Obama’s marriage to someone outside his caste is an exception, largely because his mother was extremely rebellious.
Thus, the different castes in America mostly live peacefully without much interaction, and the boundaries are not to be crossed.
But the Chinese lack this concept of caste. Chinese culture believes, "Are kings and generals born to their status?" The term "caste" implies that kings and generals are born into their roles, but Chinese culture fundamentally rejects the legitimacy of such a system, and has done so for 2,000 years.
Therefore, in the eyes of Chinese people, if you study and work hard, it’s only natural to break through the social hierarchy. Marrying a white woman, a Jewish woman, or even a British royal is considered reasonable and just a natural progression. After all, kings and generals are part of a cyclical system—"today’s king may be from my family." In traditional Chinese society, social mobility between different levels of society was crucial. The three hundred years following the Han dynasty were characterized by continuous wars and rebellions, and the country was difficult to unify, precisely because there was no imperial examination system. Social classes were almost entirely separated. From the time of Emperor Liu Xiu, who founded the Eastern Han dynasty, there was a massive enfeoffment of nobles, creating the first generation of aristocrats. In the late Eastern Han dynasty, a large number of farmers went bankrupt, and severe land consolidation led to the emergence of the first batch of large landlords. With the advent of the Nine-rank system, the ruling class was largely composed of aristocrats and landlords, confirming the establishment of a hierarchical system. Talented individuals from lower classes had no chance of rising to the middle or upper levels of society, leading them to frequently rebel to try to break through the social strata, and since the ruling elites were mediocre, they were easily overthrown. The successors of these talented rebels would then become mediocre, and the cycle would repeat.
After 587 AD, the Sui and Tang dynasties, realizing the importance of stabilizing power, dealt heavy blows to the aristocratic clans and promoted talented individuals from lower classes through the imperial examination system. The decline of the aristocracy marked the beginning of a more stable social order. Dynasties that implemented the imperial examination system, such as the Tang, Song, Ming, and Qing, generally enjoyed about 250 to 400 years of rule. This is because "today a farmer, tomorrow a courtier" was no longer just an ideal but a living reality. Talented individuals had a clear path to success. Not only was there a "scholar champion," but also a "martial champion," meaning that as long as one studied diligently or trained in martial arts, success was simply a matter of time. As a result, talented individuals had no reason to rebel, focusing instead on studying and training to prepare for the exams.
By contrast, the Yuan dynasty, which did not implement the imperial examination system, lasted less than 100 years before it collapsed. The Mongol rulers had imposed their own version of a caste system in China. They divided the population into four classes: Mongols at the top, followed by Semu (diverse ethnic groups), Han Chinese, and at the bottom, Southern Chinese. The result, unsurprisingly, was a repeat of history, as the Yuan dynasty was quickly overthrown.
In the eyes of the American ruling class, who do not understand the Chinese imperial examination system or the importance of social mobility in Chinese culture, Chinese Americans and China itself are seen as ambitious and constantly attempting to rise to power and usurp control. Chinese Americans are always thinking about breaking through or even dismantling America’s caste system, just as China aims to break through and dismantle the international order established by the West (an international version of the caste system). This is why China makes America so nervous.
In the James Bond movie "Dr. No," the Chinese antagonist No symbolizes this very idea. The name "No" signifies denial—denying what? The legitimacy of America’s caste system and the supposed nobility of British royal blood, constantly seeking to overturn the established order.
This is one of the fundamental cultural conflicts between China and the U.S. This conflict is a ticking time bomb that will eventually explode. One day, the Chinese will try to seize power and establish a modernized, Western version of the imperial examination system to determine social class through exams. This is Chinese culture.
From this perspective, you can fully understand why white Americans often accuse successful Chinese of "burning the bridge"—forgetting the kindness that helped them succeed. To white Americans, allowing Chinese people to serve them is a sign of their favor. Why, then, would these Chinese want to become masters themselves? Isn’t that rebellious? After all, their yellow skin shows that they aren’t "the chosen people." Their caste, their race, is unworthy of being rulers.
From this perspective, it also becomes clear why Western countries cannot tolerate China’s continued development or the internationalization of the yuan. It’s the same reasoning: they see China’s actions as "disrupting the international order," akin to rebellion. In their view, developing cutting-edge technology, internationalizing the yuan, or controlling the pricing and settlement of major commodities are not tasks for a low-caste nation like China—they are matters for the "chosen people" to handle. In their eyes, Chinese people are only fit for making pants, shoes, and socks—manual labor.
This also explains why Westerners despised the Chinese when they were poor and backward but now view China with hostility and vigilance as it grows rich and powerful. In their minds, they never considered the Chinese as equals because they, the white Westerners, are the "chosen people," and the Chinese are not.
When Indians come to America, they thrive because they are naturally attuned to the caste system. They know what they should and shouldn’t do, what they should and shouldn’t care about, which reassures white Americans. As a result, many managerial positions are given to Indians, who are entrusted to keep an eye on the "restless" Chinese.
I’m not endorsing the American caste system here, just outlining a rough mental model so that people can understand what’s going on in the minds of Americans.
Even today, this mindset still hasn’t changed; it’s just better concealed. With this framework, you can understand many phenomena in American culture. For example, why did Andrew Yang receive so few votes in the presidential election? Because his caste is too low, and rednecks won’t accept being governed by a Chinese. Why are Hollywood depictions of other races and genders mostly positive, while Chinese men are rarely portrayed in a good light? Because Chinese are seen as an ambitious caste, unworthy of admiration. Why do Asian male characters in American movies, whenever they appear, always seem to be talented yet brooding and plotting dangerous schemes, like Scar in "The Lion King"? The message is that lower castes always seek to rise to power, and they must be suppressed. Scar, with his black hair, thin body, and scheming nature, closely matches the Western image of the Chinese. The hyenas in "The Lion King" are essentially a metaphor for the so-called authoritarian and failed states of Africa, Asia, and Latin America. The movie subtly defends and legitimizes the white caste system while planting the seeds of caste mentality in children's minds.
#18 Re: 白人的歧视是一种种姓制度 华人在美国混得不如印度人好 是因为缺乏这个观念
秦之前，分封建国，世袭罔替，不就是种姓制度？
隋之前，士族门阀已经和皇权旗鼓相当，甚至超越了皇权。不就是种姓制度？
隋文帝、唐太宗和武则天，这三个人合力推进了一项对士族门阀影响深远的新制度，即科举制，才破除了种姓制度
隋之前，士族门阀已经和皇权旗鼓相当，甚至超越了皇权。不就是种姓制度？
隋文帝、唐太宗和武则天，这三个人合力推进了一项对士族门阀影响深远的新制度，即科举制，才破除了种姓制度
#19 Re: 白人的歧视是一种种姓制度 华人在美国混得不如印度人好 是因为缺乏这个观念
不光顺手拿过来了，还把白人抽得像个陀螺一样停不下来。annorying0 写了： 2024年 9月 24日 20:15 之前胖哥的视频说
西方期待中国人去奥运，应该但当马戏团小丑的角色，而由白人挥鞭驯兽，以显其威。
(不料鞭子被中国人顺手就拿过来了。)
这文用种姓制度比喻，更为细致。
其实是一种已知障。要明心见性，当去障除魔。
参见中国游泳选手潘展乐夺得了男子100米自由泳的金牌，气的澳洲教练大叫“不可能”！为什么说“不可能”？就是因为小黄人表现得比白皮还好，这超出了白皮的认知和理解能力。