出大事了!WSJ头版刊登俄罗斯正在取得重大胜利即将攻克红军村

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#1 出大事了!WSJ头版刊登俄罗斯正在取得重大胜利即将攻克红军村

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Russian Forces in Ukraine Near First Major Conquest in More Than Two Years
Russia’s troops have advanced inside the city of Pokrovsk, but the progress has been costly. Ukraine says it is resisting.
 
 
 
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Russia is close to capturing Pokrovsk, a city in southeastern Ukraine, which would be its most significant territorial gain in more than two years.
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Russia’s army is on the verge of its biggest Ukrainian conquest in more than two years. But the potential prize, a devastated city strewn with corpses, points to what could be a more important battle than the one for territory: Which side will bleed out of military resources first?
 
As the war approaches a fifth year, Russia is betting that its military machine, fed by its vast industrial capacity and much-larger population, will eventually overwhelm its western neighbor. Ukraine is seeking to deplete those resources and relying on Western allies to keep it funded and armed.
 
That battle has played out in the past two years around the southeastern Ukrainian city of Pokrovsk, once a mining hub with a population of around 60,000. Russia has thrown infantry into deadly assaults along tree lines and through villages around the city, while Ukraine has used explosive drones to keep them at bay.
 
Russian troops now outnumber Ukrainian soldiers inside the city, and their drones dominate the skies overhead, according to Ukrainian troops there. Military analysts say it could fall within weeks. The Russian Defense Ministry said Wednesday that its troops were advancing north through the city and clearing out Ukrainian troops that it said were cut off in Pokrovsk and its environs.

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#2 Re: 出大事了!WSJ头版刊登俄罗斯正在取得重大胜利即将攻克红军村

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五毛占领了WSJ

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#3 Re: 出大事了!WSJ头版刊登俄罗斯正在取得重大胜利即将攻克红军村

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瞎说,阿芙蒂耶夫卡战役是俄国一年前的重大胜利,也是毛子进攻的教科书。现在大毛的进攻基本延续了阿芙迪耶夫卡模式。大毛在停战前的五大战役,马里乌波尔战役,阿特米战役,阿芙蒂耶夫卡战役,红军村战役和双子城战役。我预计二毛应该死亡2百五十万军人,大毛大概会死亡30万以上。

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#4 Re: 出大事了!WSJ头版刊登俄罗斯正在取得重大胜利即将攻克红军村

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两年来的唯一一个 Major Conquest ,这是夸还是暗讽?

Russia’s troops have advanced inside the city of Pokrovsk, but the progress has been costly. Ukraine says it is resisting.

付出重大代价,乌克兰仍在抵抗。

konichiwa 写了: 2025年 11月 6日 11:36

Russian Forces in Ukraine Near First Major Conquest in More Than Two Years
Russia’s troops have advanced inside the city of Pokrovsk, but the progress has been costly. Ukraine says it is resisting.
 
 
 
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Russia is close to capturing Pokrovsk, a city in southeastern Ukraine, which would be its most significant territorial gain in more than two years.
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Russia’s army is on the verge of its biggest Ukrainian conquest in more than two years. But the potential prize, a devastated city strewn with corpses, points to what could be a more important battle than the one for territory: Which side will bleed out of military resources first?
 
As the war approaches a fifth year, Russia is betting that its military machine, fed by its vast industrial capacity and much-larger population, will eventually overwhelm its western neighbor. Ukraine is seeking to deplete those resources and relying on Western allies to keep it funded and armed.
 
That battle has played out in the past two years around the southeastern Ukrainian city of Pokrovsk, once a mining hub with a population of around 60,000. Russia has thrown infantry into deadly assaults along tree lines and through villages around the city, while Ukraine has used explosive drones to keep them at bay.
 
Russian troops now outnumber Ukrainian soldiers inside the city, and their drones dominate the skies overhead, according to Ukrainian troops there. Military analysts say it could fall within weeks. The Russian Defense Ministry said Wednesday that its troops were advancing north through the city and clearing out Ukrainian troops that it said were cut off in Pokrovsk and its environs.

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#5 Re: 出大事了!WSJ头版刊登俄罗斯正在取得重大胜利即将攻克红军村

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二毛总共服役的军人都不到250万,死亡250万,按照1:3死伤比就是伤亡1000万。你在做梦吧。朝鲜战争志愿军总伤亡都不过100万左右,俄乌战争的烈度远不如朝鲜战争。俄乌双方各死亡几十万伤亡100万左右,才是合理的数字。

F1450 写了: 2025年 11月 6日 11:49

瞎说,阿芙蒂耶夫卡战役是俄国一年前的重大胜利,也是毛子进攻的教科书。现在大毛的进攻基本延续了阿芙迪耶夫卡模式。大毛在停战前的五大战役,马里乌波尔战役,阿特米战役,阿芙蒂耶夫卡战役,红军村战役和双子城战役。我预计二毛应该死亡2百五十万军人,大毛大概会死亡30万以上。

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#6 Re: 出大事了!WSJ头版刊登俄罗斯正在取得重大胜利即将攻克红军村

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抗日战争第7年,日军还在豫湘桂取得重大胜利,比俄军牛逼多了。

konichiwa 写了: 2025年 11月 6日 11:36

Russian Forces in Ukraine Near First Major Conquest in More Than Two Years
Russia’s troops have advanced inside the city of Pokrovsk, but the progress has been costly. Ukraine says it is resisting.
 
 
 
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Artillerymen firing an M114 self-propelled howitzer.
Ukraine’s 68th Jaeger Brigade is fighting Russian troops in Pokrovsk, Ukraine. Anatolii Stepanov/Reuters
By 
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Follow
and Nikita Nikolaienko

 
 
Russia is close to capturing Pokrovsk, a city in southeastern Ukraine, which would be its most significant territorial gain in more than two years.
View more
 
Russia’s army is on the verge of its biggest Ukrainian conquest in more than two years. But the potential prize, a devastated city strewn with corpses, points to what could be a more important battle than the one for territory: Which side will bleed out of military resources first?
 
As the war approaches a fifth year, Russia is betting that its military machine, fed by its vast industrial capacity and much-larger population, will eventually overwhelm its western neighbor. Ukraine is seeking to deplete those resources and relying on Western allies to keep it funded and armed.
 
That battle has played out in the past two years around the southeastern Ukrainian city of Pokrovsk, once a mining hub with a population of around 60,000. Russia has thrown infantry into deadly assaults along tree lines and through villages around the city, while Ukraine has used explosive drones to keep them at bay.
 
Russian troops now outnumber Ukrainian soldiers inside the city, and their drones dominate the skies overhead, according to Ukrainian troops there. Military analysts say it could fall within weeks. The Russian Defense Ministry said Wednesday that its troops were advancing north through the city and clearing out Ukrainian troops that it said were cut off in Pokrovsk and its environs.

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#7 Re: 出大事了!WSJ头版刊登俄罗斯正在取得重大胜利即将攻克红军村

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ridgway 写了: 2025年 11月 6日 11:55

二毛总共服役的军人都不到250万,死亡250万,按照1:3死伤比就是伤亡1000万。你在做梦吧。朝鲜战争志愿军总伤亡都不过100万左右,俄乌战争的烈度远不如朝鲜战争。俄乌双方各死亡几十万伤亡100万左右,才是合理的数字。

要是二毛这么厉害也不至于天天上街抓壮丁,找人当填线宝宝。还找了这么多雇佣兵。

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#8 Re: 出大事了!WSJ头版刊登俄罗斯正在取得重大胜利即将攻克红军村

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二毛控制区总共就3000万不到的人口,要是军人伤亡减员1000万二毛早就彻底崩溃投降了。五毛对真实世界的军事情况一无所知,头脑里塞满了自己的幻想和意淫。二毛天天上街抓壮丁,找人当填线宝宝。还找了这么多雇佣兵,这些都不假,但是这不等于二毛军队的伤亡会有1000万这么多。韩战时的朝鲜韩国不是一直在干这种事吗?韩战时朝鲜韩国各自的军队伤亡最多也不过几十万到100万这个级别。根本到不了死亡250万伤亡1000万这个级别。

F1450 写了: 2025年 11月 6日 11:57

要是二毛这么厉害也不至于天天上街抓壮丁,找人当填线宝宝。还找了这么多雇佣兵。

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#9 Re: 出大事了!WSJ头版刊登俄罗斯正在取得重大胜利即将攻克红军村

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AI估计的开战至今的乌克兰军队的伤亡,伤亡总计40万左右,死亡4-10万,比你胡扯的死亡250万靠谱多了。

Estimates from different sources

A January 2025 estimate places Ukrainian military killed or injured at around 400,000.
According to Volodymyr Zelenskyy in December 2024: about 43,000 killed and 370,000 injured since February 2022.
Other media estimates: Ukrainian deaths have been reported in the range of 60,000-100,000 killed, with total casualties (killed + wounded) around 400,000.

F1450 写了: 2025年 11月 6日 11:57

要是二毛这么厉害也不至于天天上街抓壮丁,找人当填线宝宝。还找了这么多雇佣兵。

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#10 Re: 出大事了!WSJ头版刊登俄罗斯正在取得重大胜利即将攻克红军村

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三国时期的蜀国总人口90多万,供养一支10万人规模的军队,已经是极限了。军民比大约是1:10。乌克兰控制区的总人口也就3000万左右,它能维持的军队规模极限也就300万,乌克兰根本不可能承受了1000万的军队伤亡减员,还能把战线维持在目前的战线--俄军仍有20%的顿涅茨克未曾攻克,在其他地区也无力发动大规模进攻。俄乌双方各自对峙的兵力也就几十万规模。一战西线无比惨烈的堑壕战,双方各自对峙的兵力都是几百万规模,法军和德军战死不过100多万。你对战争里的军人伤亡数量级根本毫无概念。

F1450 写了: 2025年 11月 6日 11:57

要是二毛这么厉害也不至于天天上街抓壮丁,找人当填线宝宝。还找了这么多雇佣兵。

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#11 Re: 出大事了!WSJ头版刊登俄罗斯正在取得重大胜利即将攻克红军村

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#12 Re: 出大事了!WSJ头版刊登俄罗斯正在取得重大胜利即将攻克红军村

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五毛又打滚意淫幻想唐吉可德战风车了。这两个id何时说过俄军永远不可能攻占红军村?

bj3 写了: 2025年 11月 6日 12:55

特脑残,老鸡王哭晕在厕所

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#13 Re: 出大事了!WSJ头版刊登俄罗斯正在取得重大胜利即将攻克红军村

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二毛征兵办公室的人员都被调到前线了。感觉差不多了。

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#14 Re: 出大事了!WSJ头版刊登俄罗斯正在取得重大胜利即将攻克红军村

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一年前,两年前,三年前,不都是这个感觉?

datada 写了: 2025年 11月 6日 12:59

二毛征兵办公室的人员都被调到前线了。感觉差不多了。

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#16 Re: 出大事了!WSJ头版刊登俄罗斯正在取得重大胜利即将攻克红军村

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AI都是有出处的,比你们五毛信口胡扯什么乌克兰已经战死250万军人靠谱得多的多。

Dashabi01 写了: 2025年 11月 6日 13:25

AI估计?被你当成了权威?
AI最喜欢一本正经胡说八道
你知道吗

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#19 Re: 出大事了!WSJ头版刊登俄罗斯正在取得重大胜利即将攻克红军村

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人家美帝是赢学大师。。
失败都能说成赢了。

ridgway 写了: 2025年 11月 6日 11:53

两年来的唯一一个 Major Conquest ,这是夸还是暗讽?

Russia’s troops have advanced inside the city of Pokrovsk, but the progress has been costly. Ukraine says it is resisting.

付出重大代价,乌克兰仍在抵抗。

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#20 Re: 出大事了!WSJ头版刊登俄罗斯正在取得重大胜利即将攻克红军村

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有一种失败叫占领,有一种胜利叫撤退,这是赢学大师中共说的。

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人家美帝是赢学大师。。
失败都能说成赢了。

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#21 Re: 出大事了!WSJ头版刊登俄罗斯正在取得重大胜利即将攻克红军村

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尽管印度的确5.7被巴基斯坦打下来5架飞机,但这并不等于乌克兰真的会有1000万兵员损失,两者不相干的

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#22 Re: 出大事了!WSJ头版刊登俄罗斯正在取得重大胜利即将攻克红军村

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撤退?
我们是在向另一个方向前进
不过英文就是啰嗦
常校长只要用两个字:转进,就完美表达了意思
老毛比较谦虚,叫长征
其实都是撤退
大白话就是逃命

上次由 kuku 在 2025年 11月 6日 16:19 修改。
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前者是川普说的,五毛深信不疑。但是川普说习近平向他保证不会武统台湾时,五毛又不信了。

dazuihou 写了: 2025年 11月 6日 15:49

尽管印度的确5.7被巴基斯坦打下来5架飞机,但这并不等于乌克兰真的会有1000万兵员损失,两者不相干的

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