jhe, here are two fair comparisions.

[fortyNiner]

Among states with high gun ownership, three states have high AA%, and they are Louisiana, Alabama and Mississippi. The only two states with high AA% and lower gun ownership are Maryland and Delaware. The overall AA% of the two low-gun states is only 1% lower than that of the three high-gun states, yet their overall homicide rate is only 63% as high as the high-gun states. Clearly, when AA% is about the same, gun ownership makes a huge difference.



We see the same result for states with low AA%. The four low-gun states have an overall 6.3% AA%, which is even 43% higher than the 11 high-gun states' overall AA% of 4.4%, yet the high-gun states have an overall homicide rate of 6.5, 18% higher than that of the low-gun states.



Coincidences again? So you just win two more lottery jackpots? You can do the medium AA% and find your third jackpot for yourself.

The conclusion is obvious. When AA% is about the same, states with higher gun ownership have much higher homicide rates on average. If you can't see this, your hard beak must be so large that it blocks your view.

Homicide rates are from fbi's 2020 report.
--https://cde.ucr.cjis.gov/LATEST/webapp/#/pages/home

[jhe123]

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尼玛，你这是玩儿媒体头版造谣的手段？不在原来的话题里接着讨论，而是另开新帖传播谣言，能骗到几个算几个？同时让新的读者无法看见那些对你不利而你又无法反驳的事实论据和推理？我已经有驳倒你这篇谬论的回复了，但你得老老实实的把你这篇谬论贴到原帖中去，我才会有兴趣继续教训你。讨论问题最起码的decency你总得有一点吧？

[fortyNiner]

>>传播谣言?
The data is from fbi. I even gave the link. You are more than welcome to prove I 传播谣言 by showing my data is fake, if you can. Don't just say I 传播谣言 with your big mouth. Point out which bit of data is 谣言, can you? Your words are no evidence. Trumpers never learn.

>>有驳倒你这篇谬论的回复了
This is the first time I compared homicide rates against gun ownership when AA% is the same. Did you argue it before I posted it?

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尼玛，你这是玩儿媒体头版造谣的手段？不在原来的话题里接着讨论，而是另开新帖传播谣言，能骗到几个算几个？同时让新的读者无法看见那些对你不利而你又无法反驳的事实论据和推理？我已经有驳倒你这篇谬论的回复了，但你得老老实实的把你这篇谬论贴到原帖中去，我才会有兴趣继续教训你。讨论问题最起码的decency你总得有一点吧？

[萧武达]

以AA做参数比较，是不是首先就政治不正确了
换成收入阶层如何？ 呵呵呵，多样性

[fortyNiner]

jhe brought that up first. He talked as if AA% was the only factor.
In his graph, the RSquare is only 0.6, that means the correlation is not too high and there are other factors.

以AA做参数比较，是不是首先就政治不正确了
换成收入阶层如何？ 呵呵呵，多样性

[fortyNiner]

Funny. You can open another thread to discuss the problem, I cannot?

viewtopic.php?t=185355

尼玛，你这是玩儿媒体头版造谣的手段？不在原来的话题里接着讨论，而是另开新帖传播谣言，能骗到几个算几个？同时让新的读者无法看见那些对你不利而你又无法反驳的事实论据和推理？我已经有驳倒你这篇谬论的回复了，但你得老老实实的把你这篇谬论贴到原帖中去，我才会有兴趣继续教训你。讨论问题最起码的decency你总得有一点吧？

[萧武达]

jhe brought that up first. He talked as if AA% was the only factor.
In his graph, the RSquare is only 0.6, that means the correlation is not too high and there are other factors.

呵呵，理解
其实从犯罪学研究上看没有错误，也是必须的，包括收入层次，最后也会落到种族差异 - 俺这只是反讽现在我弟的政治氛围而已。

[fortyNiner]

That was one of the reasons why I cast vote for Trump in 2016, though I knew at that time he's definitely not a decent person.

呵呵，理解
其实从犯罪学研究上看没有错误，也是必须的，包括收入层次，最后也会落到种族差异 - 俺这只是反讽现在我弟的政治氛围而已。