怎么,EE系说燃煤电厂烧水增加出电的速率比电瓶快?
大美丽电价将上升,德州佛州或最输
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#82 Re: 大美丽电价将上升,德州佛州或最输
燃煤蒸汽轮机临界机组只有0和1,没有冗余。从点火到发电需要一到两天,不可能用来调峰。
就是调峰用燃气轮机启动也得一两个小时才能稳定。
就是调峰用燃气轮机启动也得一两个小时才能稳定。
赖美豪中 写了: 2025年 7月 17日 13:47 自信一点,正是因为加州nc把自己得卵子交给太阳能才会出现供电紧张。煤电冗余量都是200%,你紧张什么?煤电机器从20%负荷上到40%基本就是瞬间完成的,请问solar可以么
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#84 Re: 大美丽电价将上升,德州佛州或最输
这个是真笑尿了,你说的这个0-1是1825年的燃煤蒸汽轮机么?
If printing money would end poverty, printing diplomas would end stupidity.
#86 Re: 大美丽电价将上升,德州佛州或最输
对,就是1825年制造的。造了很多,一直用着。最近匀出一台装在山洞贱上,匀出另一台装在胡溅贱上。
欢迎军版将军回帖讨论。那个foofy和戴着遮羞布的婊子不用费事回我的帖了。我分别用了一个伪币把它们放在屏蔽傻*列表里,我既看不到,更回不了。我觉得这很值。
因为军版傻*列表屏蔽功能不完善,特此在个人签名处补充,foofy以及戴着遮羞布的婊子,若回我帖子死全家。
因为军版傻*列表屏蔽功能不完善,特此在个人签名处补充,foofy以及戴着遮羞布的婊子,若回我帖子死全家。
#87 Re: 大美丽电价将上升,德州佛州或最输
他连屁都不懂,现在燃煤轮机基本上光靠条件进气就能调节1倍功率,尤其是在低功率下调峰能力很强。鳖国80%调峰机组都是煤电。太阳能就是一个joke了。pge得solar经常是倒贴送去az, 因为电池负载太高了,怕失火,倒贴1块钱一度送给az
If printing money would end poverty, printing diplomas would end stupidity.
#88 Re: 大美丽电价将上升,德州佛州或最输
自信一点,西电东送是(地球)物理定律。因为西边日落晚一点,能刚好顶上晚(特别是空调)用电高峰。德州的太阳能也是造在西边。赖美豪中 写了: 2025年 7月 17日 14:27 他连屁都不懂,现在燃煤轮机基本上光靠条件进气就能调节1倍功率,尤其是在低功率下调峰能力很强。鳖国80%调峰机组都是煤电。太阳能就是一个joke了。pge得solar经常是倒贴送去az, 因为电池负载太高了,怕失火,倒贴1块钱一度送给az
加州最惨。所以要装电瓶。
#89 Re: 大美丽电价将上升,德州佛州或最输
Yes, in some instances, California has paid neighboring states like Arizona to take excess solar power, particularly during periods of high solar generation and low demand. This happens because California's rapid expansion of solar power generation has outpaced its ability to store or transmit all of the electricity it produces, and it can be more cost-effective to pay other states to take the surplus than to curtail solar production or risk overloading the grid.
Here's a more detailed explanation:
California's Solar Boom:
California has invested heavily in solar power, leading to a significant increase in its solar generation capacity.
Grid Limitations:
The state's electricity grid and storage infrastructure haven't kept pace with this rapid growth, making it challenging to manage the influx of solar power, especially during peak production times.
Paying for Excess:
To avoid overloading the grid and potentially causing blackouts, California has sometimes found it necessary to pay neighboring states to take the surplus electricity.
Economic Considerations:
In some cases, it's cheaper for California to pay another state to accept the excess power than to curtail solar production or invest in expensive upgrades to its grid infrastructure.
Other States Benefit:
While California might pay for the excess, other states, like Arizona, can benefit from access to cheaper electricity, particularly during periods of high demand.
Example:
The Los Angeles Times reported that California paid Arizona to take its solar power on certain days in January, February, and March of 2017, according to Semper Solaris.
Here's a more detailed explanation:
California's Solar Boom:
California has invested heavily in solar power, leading to a significant increase in its solar generation capacity.
Grid Limitations:
The state's electricity grid and storage infrastructure haven't kept pace with this rapid growth, making it challenging to manage the influx of solar power, especially during peak production times.
Paying for Excess:
To avoid overloading the grid and potentially causing blackouts, California has sometimes found it necessary to pay neighboring states to take the surplus electricity.
Economic Considerations:
In some cases, it's cheaper for California to pay another state to accept the excess power than to curtail solar production or invest in expensive upgrades to its grid infrastructure.
Other States Benefit:
While California might pay for the excess, other states, like Arizona, can benefit from access to cheaper electricity, particularly during periods of high demand.
Example:
The Los Angeles Times reported that California paid Arizona to take its solar power on certain days in January, February, and March of 2017, according to Semper Solaris.
牛河梁 写了: 2025年 7月 17日 14:31 自信一点,西电东送是(地球)物理定律。因为西边日落晚一点,能刚好顶上晚(特别是空调)用电高峰。德州的太阳能也是造在西边。
加州最惨。所以要装电瓶。
If printing money would end poverty, printing diplomas would end stupidity.
#90 Re: 大美丽电价将上升,德州佛州或最输
自信一点,贵加得电从来都没够过
牛河梁 写了: 2025年 7月 17日 14:31 自信一点,西电东送是(地球)物理定律。因为西边日落晚一点,能刚好顶上晚(特别是空调)用电高峰。德州的太阳能也是造在西边。
加州最惨。所以要装电瓶。
If printing money would end poverty, printing diplomas would end stupidity.
#92 Re: 大美丽电价将上升,德州佛州或最输
迷惑加州啥都贵的ID 应该好好读懂上文。赖美豪中 写了: 2025年 7月 17日 14:33 Yes, in some instances, California has paid neighboring states like Arizona to take excess solar power, particularly during periods of high solar generation and low demand. This happens because California's rapid expansion of solar power generation has outpaced its ability to store or transmit all of the electricity it produces, and it can be more cost-effective to pay other states to take the surplus than to curtail solar production or risk overloading the grid.
Here's a more detailed explanation:
California's Solar Boom:
California has invested heavily in solar power, leading to a significant increase in its solar generation capacity.
Grid Limitations:
The state's electricity grid and storage infrastructure haven't kept pace with this rapid growth, making it challenging to manage the influx of solar power, especially during peak production times.
Paying for Excess:
To avoid overloading the grid and potentially causing blackouts, California has sometimes found it necessary to pay neighboring states to take the surplus electricity.
Economic Considerations:
In some cases, it's cheaper for California to pay another state to accept the excess power than to curtail solar production or invest in expensive upgrades to its grid infrastructure.
Other States Benefit:
While California might pay for the excess, other states, like Arizona, can benefit from access to cheaper electricity, particularly during periods of high demand.
Example:
The Los Angeles Times reported that California paid Arizona to take its solar power on certain days in January, February, and March of 2017, according to Semper Solaris.
100亿的go nowhere 高铁
自己掏钱送AZ 电
有很多特殊人才能住的"便宜"房
政府"免费" 毒品针管
。。。。
Now you are wondering why the everything price is going up to the roof?
#93 Re: 大美丽电价将上升,德州佛州或最输
归根结底是加州有钱。wolf_north_1234 写了: 2025年 7月 17日 14:43 迷惑加州啥都贵的ID 应该好好读懂上文。
100亿的go nowhere 高铁
自己掏钱送AZ 电
有很多特殊人才能住的"便宜"房
政府"免费" 毒品针管
。。。。
Now you are wondering why the everything price is going up to the roof?
没钱在加州就是原罪。
#96 Re: 大美丽电价将上升,德州佛州或最输
自信一点都住进5星际宾馆管3顿,空调随便开,不需要练心静自然凉
If printing money would end poverty, printing diplomas would end stupidity.