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从字面上讲,卢比奥指的就是防空系统会被很快摧毁。你说这个与你认为的现实不符,所以做出另外的解读。但是你认为的现实和卢比奥知道的现实哪个更接近真实情况呢?
严格讲,说一周就被摧毁显然是夸张的说法,但是应该大差不差。乌方一直要求更多的防空武器是有原因的。乌军一直以来不仅依赖西方防空武器,也在使用庞大的前苏联库存。这些库存是没有再供应的,所以乌方的防空越来越陷于被动。俄军一个月5000枚制导滑翔弹让乌军损失极为惨重。假设一枚航弹导致5人死伤(一个据点的人数估算),一个月的伤亡就是2.5万人。乌军对防空武器的强烈渴求是可以理解的。
NativeMan8080 写了: 2025年 11月 13日 10:56从字面上讲,卢比奥指的就是防空系统会被很快摧毁。你说这个与你认为的现实不符,所以做出另外的解读。但是你认为的现实和卢比奥知道的现实哪个更接近真实情况呢?
严格讲,说一周就被摧毁显然是夸张的说法,但是应该大差不差。乌方一直要求更多的防空武器是有原因的。乌军一直以来不仅依赖西方防空武器,也在使用庞大的前苏联库存。这些库存是没有再供应的,所以乌方的防空越来越陷于被动。俄军一个月5000枚制导滑翔弹让乌军损失极为惨重。假设一枚航弹导致5人死伤(一个据点的人数估算),一个月的伤亡就是2.5万人。乌军对防空武器的强烈渴求是可以理解的。
这种假设安全和事实不符

最后一句话“..., and that's been the history (in) the last two or three years." 如果that是指讨论武器,就不应该放在说武器一周被毁的同一句话里,更不应加and作为连接。
我认为你能读懂英文,但是你在故意曲解。
NativeMan8080 写了: 2025年 11月 13日 11:06最后一句话“..., and that's been the history (in) the last two or three years." 如果that是指讨论武器,就不应该放在说武器一周被毁的同一句话里,更不应加and作为连接。
我认为你能读懂英文,但是你在故意曲解。
对特脑残的英语能力,不要期望太高
NativeMan8080 写了: 2025年 11月 13日 11:06最后一句话“..., and that's been the history (in) the last two or three years." 如果that是指讨论武器,就不应该放在说武器一周被毁的同一句话里,更不应加and作为连接。
我认为你能读懂英文,但是你在故意曲解。
这种理解不但断章取义,而且违反常识,
显然是指technical conversation

"That's why we've been in discussions with them about the defensive weapons to be able to protect their grids. And I know we've been in ongoing techincal conversations about the specific equipment they need. But ultimately, if that equipment is ultimately destroyed week after it's installed, that remains a problem, and that's been the history the last two or three years."
你自己读读大家的解读怎么断章取义了?
违反常识?那是你不能接受现实。
NativeMan8080 写了: 2025年 11月 13日 11:34"That's why we've been in discussions with them about the defensive weapons to be able to protect their grids. And I know we've been in ongoing techincal conversations about the specific equipment they need. But ultimately, if that equipment is ultimately destroyed week after it's installed, that remains a problem, and that's been the history the last two or three years."
你自己读读大家的解读怎么断章取义了?
违反常识?那是你不能接受现实。
作为老将,我不能替tnc说话,但我的理解和你一样。单从语言的角度,是这样的。至于路标是不是夸大了、或糊涂了、被蒙蔽了、或说谎了就不知道了。
That's why we've been in discussions with them about the defensive weapons to be able to protect their grids. And I know we've been in ongoing techincal conversations about the specific equipment they need. But ultimately, if that equipment is ultimately destroyed week after it's installed, that remains a problem, and that's been the history the last two or three years."
这种断章取义的理解根本和事实不符,
乌克兰目前只有3到6套爱国者系统,虽然答应提供25套,整个交货流程很缓慢,如果按五毛的理解,乌克兰已经没有爱国者系统了。
卢比奥显然在提过去两到三年为什么交货慢的问题,要是‘’如果‘’是事实的话,鹅毛还用卢比奥来说?
这个弱智在这贴了一大坨,有任何一个直接证据说前几个拿到的爱国者系统没有被摧毁的吗?
一点干货也没有,却非要煞有介事地上蹿下跳装作手握实证,就是弱智却有没有自知之明的表现
实在不行就赶紧去X上回复你主子小卢比奥,告诉他说错话了赶紧改
tnc 写了: 2025年 11月 13日 12:08That's why we've been in discussions with them about the defensive weapons to be able to protect their grids. And I know we've been in ongoing techincal conversations about the specific equipment they need. But ultimately, if that equipment is ultimately destroyed week after it's installed, that remains a problem, and that's been the history the last two or three years."
这种断章取义的理解根本和事实不符,
乌克兰目前只有3到6套爱国者系统,虽然答应提供25套,整个交货流程很缓慢,如果按五毛的理解,乌克兰已经没有爱国者系统了。
卢比奥显然在提过去两到三年为什么交货慢的问题,要是‘’如果‘’是事实的话,鹅毛还用卢比奥来说?
