美国的治安和枪没啥关系，和人口组成关系不小。

[jhe123]

AA again? Do we have a disagreement here?

呵呵，你这理解能力。。。

这里谈的已经不是哪个因素影响谋杀率了，谈的是哪个级别的数据对研究有意义。

我研究AA时用的聚居区的AA和谋杀率数据是可靠的，你拿state level拥枪率谋杀率做文章就是扯淡。

[fortyNiner]

>>>可靠的
What you said is no evidence.

呵呵，你这理解能力。。。

这里谈的已经不是哪个因素影响谋杀率了，谈的是哪个级别的数据对研究有意义。

我研究AA时用的聚居区的AA和谋杀率数据是可靠的，你拿state level拥枪率谋杀率做文章就是扯淡。

[jhe123]

>>>可靠的
What you said is no evidence.

你也只能用矢口否认这一招了。

[fortyNiner]

Well, you said your data is reliable, and mine is meaningless. Who else said that?

你也只能用矢口否认这一招了。

[jhe123]

Well, you said your data is reliable, and mine is meaningless. Who else said that?

呵呵，我说的是聚居区的数据有意义，state level的没意义，只不过你只有state level的数据，所以你的数据没意义。你要是拿出聚居区的谋杀率用枪率的数据出来，我自然会说那些数据可靠。所以我的评价是客观的，而你纯粹是嘴硬。

[fortyNiner]

Overall stats is not meaningless. Don't deny it.
That's how they make money from stats.
Your hard beak is too visible.

呵呵，我说的是聚居区的数据有意义，state level的没意义，只不过你只有state level的数据，所以你的数据没意义。你要是拿出聚居区的谋杀率用枪率的数据出来，我自然会说那些数据可靠。所以我的评价是客观的，而你纯粹是嘴硬。

[jhe123]

Overall stats is not meaningless. Don't deny it.
That's how they make money from stats.
Your hard beak is too visible.

你这一段狗屁不通的玩意儿，除了死撑场面还有啥意义？

[fortyNiner]

You are speaking of yourself.

你这一段狗屁不通的玩意儿，除了死撑场面还有啥意义？

[fortyNiner]

>>>state level的数据毫无意义
Yeah, that's really funny. You are consistently inconsistent.
Look at your first post in this thread, you used State Level data to prove the correlation between AA% and homicide rates. So your state level data is good, and mine is meaningless? Your consistency is fucked up.

哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈

哈哈，state level的数据毫无意义，然后你认为把一堆毫无意义的数据平均一下这数据就突然有意义了。你还能再愚蠢点不？

[jhe123]

>>>state level的数据毫无意义
Yeah, that's really funny. You are consistently inconsistent.
Look at your first post in this thread, you used State Level data to prove the correlation between AA% and homicide rates. So your state level data is good, and mine is meaningless? Your consistency is fucked up.

哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈

哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈

你是变着花样的证明自己傻逼啊。你在本楼中的第一个帖子就问过这个问题了。看来你不仅傻而且还只有金鱼的记忆。LOL。。。那我就再教训你一下。

我的结论不是基于state level的数据做出来的，而是基于county level数据的。但是county level数据复杂不直观并且繁琐，需要花费时间和思考才能明白，不利于简单明了的推广，毕竟不是所有人都有兴趣在这个问题上花时间精力。所以我用state level的数据显示一下大致的趋势，纯粹是为了更好更容易让人记住的visual effect而已，相当于广告的catch phrase.

而你的傻逼之处是拿着无意义的state level数据画一个同样没有意义的图，然后在这个基础上做出荒谬的结论。所以你的分析不配和我的分析相提并论。

[fortyNiner]

>>>我的结论不是基于state level的数据做出来的
Keep twisting and spinning. Show people your hard beak. Unfortunately you cannot deny a fact.
Look at your first post in this thread, you Made your conclusion without mentioning anything about county level data. It was much later when you span your way to county level data. Even so, you don't have complete county level data, but since it seems to support your conclusion, you stick with it.

Look at this, where was your county level data?

哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈

你是变着花样的证明自己傻逼啊。你在本楼中的第一个帖子就问过这个问题了。看来你不仅傻而且还只有金鱼的记忆。LOL。。。那我就再教训你一下。

我的结论不是基于state level的数据做出来的，而是基于county level数据的。但是county level数据复杂不直观并且繁琐，需要花费时间和思考才能明白，不利于简单明了的推广，毕竟不是所有人都有兴趣在这个问题上花时间精力。所以我用state level的数据显示一下大致的趋势，纯粹是为了更好更容易让人记住的visual effect而已，相当于广告的catch phrase.

而你的傻逼之处是拿着无意义的state level数据画一个同样没有意义的图，然后在这个基础上做出荒谬的结论。所以你的分析不配和我的分析相提并论。

[jhe123]

>>>我的结论不是基于state level的数据做出来的
Keep twisting and spinning. Show people your hard beak. Unfortunately you cannot deny a fact.
Look at your first post in this thread, you Made your conclusion without mentioning anything about county level data. It was much later when you span your way to county level data. Even so, you don't have complete county level data, but since it seems to support your conclusion, you stick with it.

Look at this, where was your county level data?

你个蠢逼现在开始猜老子是怎么得出结论的了？county level数据讲起来太费事，简单明了的就是记住state level数据画的图，和county level数据得出的结论就行了。只有当你这个傻货以为老子和你一样蠢，跳出来指责我用state level数据得结论，好像逮住我自相矛盾的时候，才需要拿出来打你的脸。

我早就知道我只要说谋杀率和拥枪率没关系，你这个反枪的弱智一定会跳出来，呵呵，所以这个坑就是给你挖的，你也果然没有辜负叔的期望。

[xexz]

make sense。更深层的角度是和受教育水平和贫富差距有关。如果人人都能收到良好的教育，按需分配，人人精神稳定，肯定就没有治安问题了。

你帝制度消灭一切阶级流动的可能;是非常典型的'魏晋门阀共和制度'.

你帝的自然资源,已经开始支持不了名贵的人口数量了.

而名贵的命永远贵不起来,麦氏舒婷就一刻不停,除非名族融合/阶级流动,这个可以参考中国历史.

不然,你帝肮格鲁的传统艺能走起:种族灭绝.

你帝没有第三条道路.

分成三国也可,黑国,白国,不黑不白国.

[xexz]

你帝制度消灭一切阶级流动的可能;是非常典型的'魏晋门阀共和制度'.

你帝的自然资源,已经开始支持不了名贵的人口数量了.

而名贵的命永远贵不起来,麦氏舒婷就一刻不停,除非名族融合/阶级流动,这个可以参考中国历史.

不然,你帝肮格鲁的传统艺能走起:种族灭绝.

你帝没有第三条道路.

分成三国也可,黑国,白国,不黑不白国.

别跟我说你能当议员,那不是阶级流动,你以为是而已,这种设计是故意的.

[Cellcycle2]

以前实在懒得一个州一个州的手动输入数据来验证。现在网上找到个网站直接下载相关数据，可以作图了。数据来源：

2020 各州命案：https://worldpopulationreview.com/state ... e-by-state
2023 各州AA人口比例： https://worldpopulationreview.com/state ... n-by-state

两个数据年份不一致，但应该影响不大，三年时间各州人口组成的变化基本可以忽略。

还是 人 开枪

[fortyNiner]

Keep spinning.
OK, let me give you a chance to keep spinning.
Where is your county level data on homicide rates and AA%. Don't give me the maps, they are not complete. Give me data and source so that I can verify them.

你个蠢逼现在开始猜老子是怎么得出结论的了？county level数据讲起来太费事，简单明了的就是记住state level数据画的图，和county level数据得出的结论就行了。只有当你这个傻货以为老子和你一样蠢，跳出来指责我用state level数据得结论，好像逮住我自相矛盾的时候，才需要拿出来打你的脸。

我早就知道我只要说谋杀率和拥枪率没关系，你这个反枪的弱智一定会跳出来，呵呵，所以这个坑就是给你挖的，你也果然没有辜负叔的期望。

[jhe123]

Keep spinning.
OK, let me give you a chance to keep spinning.
Where is your county level data on homicide rates and AA%. Don't give me the maps, they are not complete. Give me data and source so that I can verify them.

你丫真搞笑，居然说出map 不完全这种傻话。来，你给叔仔细说说你认为 map is not complete的依据是啥，少了几个county可以让你否定其有效性？

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U ... icide_rate

[fortyNiner]

Look at the maps, can you distinguish between a 25% and a 35% homicide rate? Can you distinguish a 30% AA and a 50%? So you cannot tell if "a 30% AA leads to a 25% homicide and a 50% AA leads to a 35% homicide" or "a 50% AA leads to a 25% homicide and a 30% AA leads to a 35% homicide". Is this too complicated for you?

你丫真搞笑，居然说出map 不完全这种傻话。来，你给叔仔细说说你认为 map is not complete的依据是啥，少了几个county可以让你否定其有效性？

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U ... icide_rate

[fortyNiner]

Also, you 丫 see that many of the high AA% counties do not have high homicide rates from the maps?
And the retarded thing is, you 丫 was able to make any conclusion about the relationship between gun ownership and homicide rates by looking a the maps of homicide rates and AA%. That's beyond retarded.

你丫真搞笑，居然说出map 不完全这种傻话。来，你给叔仔细说说你认为 map is not complete的依据是啥，少了几个county可以让你否定其有效性？

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U ... icide_rate

[jhe123]

Look at the maps, can you distinguish between a 25% and a 35% homicide rate? Can you distinguish a 30% AA and a 50%? So you cannot tell if "a 30% AA leads to a 25% homicide and a 50% AA leads to a 35% homicide" or "a 50% AA leads to a 25% homicide and a 30% AA leads to a 35% homicide". Is this too complicated for you?

哈哈，你觉得你终于找到一个反驳点了，结果只不过是再次证明你的傻逼。你那个过于简单的脑袋，一个时间只能理解一个变量，当你考虑某个变量的影响时，其它变量就被你完全当作不存在，而且即使这个你正在考虑的变量，你也头脑简单到只能理解严格的线性关系。

在叔谈到AA%之前，你丫说到谋杀率就知道谈拥枪率，现在虽然被叔逼得不得不承认AA是重要因素后，但依然蠢得把AA又当成唯二因素。你丫现在是不是又认为谋杀率只受AA和拥枪率的影响了？

下面是黑人人口占多数的county分布图，和高谋杀率county高度重合，你知道叔为啥只选用黑人人口多数的county分布图吗？估计你八成是不懂的， LOL。。。